500px border left and border right 5px why does firefox basically make the interior of the box 490px and add the

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Hello, I have an issue of trying to match the heights of two boxes on my site. I have uploaded the specific code to http://paste.css-standards.org/16108 (It validates as HTML 4.01 Strict). The boxes have different ammounts of text in them so the right onr is bigger than the left. I am trying to get them to be the same height. Any ideas?

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Same height columns: http://www.positioniseverything.net/articles/onetruelayout/equalheight http://www.alistapart.com/articles/fauxcolumns/

(first link)

digitok, thanks for the link I will go read
this looks perfect the faux columns method didn't feel right for what i am doing

hey guys
how do u pop up a box
say like when some one goes to a paticular page u have a box pop up saying "thanks for the support" with an ok button
they click the ok and carry on

digitok, I used the first links method and the boxes are now the same height but for some reason I loose the bottom border http://paste.css-standards.org/16115/view
any ideas why that is?

guys, how can i receive POSTed variables, do something with them, and pass them on to a different POST cgi?

you could use php, and get them from $_POST

yes but how do i repost them?
i did this 2 years ago :s
i must be getting really old

Repost?

yes, call another cgi

Well you post them in a form and call tzhem with php $_POST ?

tag

huh?

Eh, I might be kicking in fog

there's a page with a form in it, calls a cgi host and passes some params
i want this cgi to do its work and "redirect" to another cgi, resending all params
i think i did this :s

Well you could save those params somewhere and read them out
Like...database or so :o

wonder if i did a get...

I have a question.

in the body?

the standard defines them to be in the head

where is the official reference about which nesting is legal for which doctype?

is not allowed at the place where i put it, but i don't find an explanation at w3c.org about legal nesting

or must one be able to read DTD? are the easily "human readable?" or do you know an element reference which says this element is allowed within: el1,el2,el3,... and may contain: el7,el8,el9,...

ms office screwed up my html page with lots of shitty tags
i wanna clean em up
i have both linux web hosting and windows
plz suggest

html tidy
it can clean up proprietary tags
and can create stylesheets from font="..." atttributes
http://tidy.sourceforge.net/
good luck
i also use html-tidy to intend sites, which are "compressed" (removal of whitecharacters to save a few bytes, big sites as google, yahoo do this) to more easily watch them.
so is there a kind person to answer my question too?
(no that i have given one)
give--take

block elements cannot appear in a
your form is inside a

what can be causing this problem? http://designpro.se/upload/works/thumbs/thumbnailnobel.jpg - this picture can't be shown as you can see, but when I login to the ftp, I can see the picture in the correct path and with the correct permissions! And if I download it to my computer from the ftp, I can see it correctly
in FF I get an error like "The picture can't bee shown because it contains errors".

at the end of an element always the same as /element?

is used to self-close the element

you can't put like meta/meta, that'd give you a validation error

Is there a difference between using " and ', specifically on metadata tags?

using them for what?

Would there a difference between content='Demo description.' and content="Demo description." ?

anyone know why on IE6, with https://www.chegworthvalley.com/v789/products2.asp the line of bottles "falls out" the side on the box until the window is resized?

cnnClash no difference, it's a commodity, if you plan on using sngle quotes in the value, use double, if you plan on using double quotes in the value use single, it really change nothing, just be sure that when you open a string with 1 delimiter you use the same at the end

alright, thanks

what a strange question. would you mind telling me why you would want to use single quotes?

stoffus he must've seen it used through other websites

thanks for your answer
i guess an empiric answer
is there a reference of which nesting is legal for which DTD?
i havent found anything at w3c

without modifying headers in flight, is there a web browser or plugin that will let me request a particular domain name from a vhost server at an ip address?

the DTD is the definition
by, uhm definition

yes, but it is hard for me to read it
is there also a "more human readable" version.
or is there a reference on how to interpret/read a DTD

I'm thinking of switching back to UPPERCASE.
P CLASS="some_class"SPANNormal text./SPAN/P
Why not?
It would be easier to read, no?
Why did we all switch to lowercase to begin with?
It's like SQL... there you use UPPERCASE FOR KEYWORD. Why not in HTML as well?

it was to conform with XML hosting syntax

im a fan of uppercase tags
it does make them stand out more

but i also don't like case-sensitivity
it is a stupid invention by geeks

i disagree

defacto i would never use the same term tERm TerM more than once, cause

cases are a stupid invention by white people

:-)

the very very few practical reasons for separate cases are far outweighed by the cost

defacto i would never use the same term tERm TerM more than once, cause then i would by myself never know which is which. you are right, the pros are much less than the cons
i think programs should be case-sensitive, and the user can have his/her own convention (ie CONSTANTS variables Classes)
so is their a help for reading DTDs ?

hello / spAn

Does that show with many spaces for you?

yes

My client seems to remove several spaces in a row.
Oh, well... my point is that HTML parsers are too tolerant.
There should be very, very, VERY strict rules.
Super nazi deluxe strictness.
I feel sorry for those who have to write parsers.

how can i redirect a page using htaccess
i can redirect it
but i want to hide the page

What do you mean "hide the page"? A redirect with .htaccess is instant.

yeah but i dont want to show admin.php
i want to show /admin
like www.blah.com/admin redirects to admin.php
but shows /admin
not /admin.php

this is possible
wait i ll check my notes
sorry i don't have the concrete code
but it is possible that if one requests i.e. /path/to/folder/sample
that apache looks for sample.* and chooses one (file type preference according to your settings)
check http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/

out of curiosity, the w3c recommendations page marks http://rafb.net/p/4xLtWa96.html as deprecated, what would be wrong with this format? Is it just the 'start="10"'?

Yes.
I have never even heard of the start attribute.
Is this some html hosting 2.0 shit?
`html start

towerniece, i hope not, it was on the w3c html 4.0 spec
wrong button .

Wrong button? Where?
Can you link to this pager?

http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/lists.html#h-10.2
towerniece, "wrong button" was me leaving and rejoining chat

Hrm...
Yeah. This is deprecated shit.

to begin with something other than 1.?

hehe well i needed to do that a few times in TeX for my homework assignments

if you have six lists on a page and only one of them is meant not to have numbers, it's generally easier to style away that bullet than to duplicate all list styling
practically speaking it can save tremendous hassle, code duplication and maintenance nonsense

hmm, sorry i have to try this out:
html samp

characters) be blockquotes?

to begin with anything other than 1.?

rofl, never question the unholy creator's mailing list messages unless you are of similar rank :P

What?
That's puretext shown in HTML.

quotes as blockquotes.

to begin with anything other than 1.?

towerniece, oh, if you get problems 3, 6, and 9 from a book or something

Why is that a list?

towerniece, because i'm a lazy bastard

So you abuse semantics?

towerniece, if they are never going to be seen by anyone? like I said this is in reference to a TeX document, I will be the only one seeing anything besides a PDF, etc. output of it

Well... if nobody sees you molest a little innocent girl, is it not wrong? ;S
Could you sleep knowing that that paper was printed with a incorrect semantic backend?
s/a/an/
I know I couldn't.

o_O i think you're looking too much into this
(i definitely slept fine knowing i didn't have to look at it again for a few weeks)

Well, mr. Satan...

careful now, i know a Sk hockey player who might take offense to calling me that :P

=Z
Is it mr. X or Mr. X when "Mr." is not the first word in a sentence?

eh? oh no that's not what i meant. My friend constantly got mad when i said something like that because she thought i was making fun of the hockey player.

=Z =Z =Z
I was just asking a question.

towerniece, ah, capital...
sorry, clearly i've spent too much time on the internet when i start processing everything as sarcastic
bsorry, clearly i've spent too much time on the internet when i start processing everything as sarcastic/b

is it possible to submit a post variable from a link?

Good question.
However, it is not.

even with some jscript?

You can hide a form and construct it with JavaScript.
Which degrades into a link to a page with a form.

ok, thats what i think i'm gonna do. thanks

how to make a table with the header fixed but with scrollable body?

t00na wanted me to tell you that lasagna is good for you in copious amounts

hello

tag for unordered lists. I want to know how or who tells the text to have an indent, and how big is this indent exactly?

cheesy, I *think* it's determined by the margin-left of li
there might be something else, but I'm not sure

ok..thats right! but what is the default?

I think that's entirely up to the browser

ah ok...so is there a way to get the values the browser uses?

not sure about that
what do you want to accomplish in the end?

i would need it for a specified version of internetexplorer

but why not just set a value yourself?

this won't be in the help file i guess
oh...that's a long story

but in my case it is impossible because i don't have any css

and calculate the difference

there are javascripts floating around to get the x/y of a given element
but still, what do you want to *do* with that value?

i want to give other elements the same value

hm, so it's about alignment
why not put the elements into lis themsevles?
I guess because you don't want the bullet points?

you are smart

without css this all gets a bit tricky ... why exactly can't you have any?

as i said this is a long story

8)
well ... I suppose it's some kind of CMS or so where you can only change little bits and pieces

but i don't work on a homepage...i work on an application which uses some html

so it uses an html hosting renderer which ignores css?

ahm...this guess was wrong
not exactly

I just find it hard to believe that you can have html but not css in 2007 ... which is why I keep guessing around

ok
it is an application which has something like an independent format of html
this format should be very simple

I'm not sure I'm following you here
anyway - if you want to "style" html without css that begs the question if the application's website design goals are sane
I hope you're not the only developer host
I hope you're not the only

i'm not

anyway, as I said, you might be able to resort to Javascript
but that breaks the proposed "keep it simple" goal much harder than just allowing css

maybe the best thing is to get one of these screen measure tools
and just look it up
you're right
so this is no option for me
this app is great...but the people who make the specifications are...ahm....idiots

well, if you'll only have one html rendering engine EVER and stuff like "default font size" won't change EVER you might get away with using a fixed pixel value
still, it all sounds pretty brittle to me

it's getting worse...if you want to hear it

oh, I like a good horror story every now and then
don't hold back

maybe querying you is better now..since this has nothing to do with the topic :P

hehe
go ahead
okay, now to my problem ... IE conveniently does not submit the 'name="somename" value="somevalue"' part of an input type="image". Any way of making it do so?

dang`r`us: No. (Not without JS or a hidden field.) http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms535836.aspx

webben, thanks
given the fact that my customer wants a no-javascript solution and the form has multiple submit buttons (that do different things) I guess with this URL I can finally tell them to shove their spec up their asses 8)

dang`r`us: IE's behaviour is probably correct in this instance: http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/interact/forms.html#input-control-types

webben, hm, still annoying

is for.

I'll tell the html guy
(I'm mostly doing the server side of things in the project, but I tried to solve his problems ...)
thanks

is supported by IE5.5?

dang`r`us: dunno off hand ... look it up on MSDN
it usually says

thanks

as value?

nah, can't use that ...

500px... border left and border right 5px, why does firefox basically make the interior of the box 490px and add the 5px yet ie keeps the box itself 500 px and adds 5px to each side... is there a work around aside from creating some sort of if IE conditional?
oops sorry didn't mean to quit

tiz-, if you google around for "box model", you will find that IE often does stuff differently
in this regard
you'll probably also come across various pages that explain the w3c/IE box models and how to make the browsers behave identically

well, I have encountered it before but I've always just used an if IE conditional.... wondered if there was some sort of work around

tiz-: Sounds like you're in quirks mode.

I think you should be able to pull it off without conditionals

okies, I'll try to find some more
info*

oh yeah, try to make sure you're not in quirks mode first

tiz-: Validate your document to XHTML 1.0 Strict without a XML prologue or preferably HTML 4.01 Strict to avoid quirks mode.

ok, let me give that a shot... thanks

tiz-: see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Explorer_box_model_bug and http://hsivonen.iki.fi/doctype/

I actually did a bad thing... didn't set the doctype yet as I was only into the first 4 lines of code... I set the doctype and now they both seem to be behaving the same thanks

tiz-: Writing standard, valid, conforming markup and CSS will minimize the number of browser quirks and bugs you have to deal with.
There will still be plenty left.

I usually end up using transitional instead of strict and i tend to code the site then go back and validate... bad habit I got in.. but I'll just do it in strict from now on so I don't have to deal with that crap
makes life a lot easier
god I wish I would have known about that earlier instead of all the ridiculous conditions I've setup in the past*@#

MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * * MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * * MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * * MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * * MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * * MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * * MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * *
bMATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * * MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * * MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * * MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * * MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * * MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * * MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * */b

intriguing.

kickban

MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * * MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * * MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * * MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * * MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * * MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * * MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * *
uMATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * * MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * * MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * * MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * * MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * * MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * * MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * */u

cool

MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * * MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * * MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * * MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * * MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * * MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * * MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * *
MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * * MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * * MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * * MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * * MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * * MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * * MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * *

rebarbar, rape your mother, willya

MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * * MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * * MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * * MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * * MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * * MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * * MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * *
bMATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * * MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * * MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * * MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * * MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * * MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * * MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * */b
ubMATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * * MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * * MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * * MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * * MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * * MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * * MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * */b/u
uubMATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * * MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * * MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * * MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * * MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * * MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * * MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * */b/u/u

obviously rebarbar is unsatisfied with mattmcc's sexual performance

obviously

MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * * MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * * MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * * MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * * MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * * MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * * MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * *

Or perhaps this is a public service announcement.

MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * * MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * * MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * * MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * * MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * * MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * * MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * *

It's reverse psychology. He wants to be raped by mattmcc.

this actually started on a different server

MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * * MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * * MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * * MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * * MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * * MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * * MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * *

kinda weird to see it here

MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * * MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * * MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * * MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * * MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * * MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * * MATTMCC IS A RAPIST * * *

Why don't you guys have any staffers around?

same on #css

PhilKC *is* a staffer, smart one.

"lgonze" at 71.6.194.243 pasted "nxml-mode sees the input elements as not valid -- true?" (16 lines) at http://erxz.com/pb/3161

I'm trying to figure out why a form isn't submitting properly. invalid markup is the most likely cause, but the w3c validator doesn't see an error, tidy doesn't see an error, and I don't see an error.
only emacs nxml-mode is telling me I have something invalid.

define "not submitting properly"

Anyone need help?

if you could just wipe out every installation of IE for me, I'd be eternally grateful

Sorry, can't do it

that was strange.

a lot

it will probably work, it's definitely not a nice way of doing it?

without using absolute positioning or js, is it possible to create a div (as a child of another div) that will float above the rest of the contents of its parent, and be sized to 100% of the parent?
you should close each one as you're done using it...

User entry is involved. Unfortunately, in a list, if one user doesn't close a tag it trails into all posts after it.,

maybe try a sanitizing parser like beautiful soup on the server side of things

you should be, on the server, scanning any user post and verifying anything entered. if you are allowing users to post html, you'll have to limit what they can post
simple regex can do it

etc, but it doesn't count how many start and end tags there are

Was hoping there'd be an ewasier way

keeping track of a few simple formatting tags is pretty easy
there isn't an elegant way to do it any easier
just use a stack

A stack is still considerably more annoying than a few preg_replaces in the PHP
Oh well

but stacks are conceptually mightier than regexes, and in this case regexes are not powerful enough

well, make your preg replaces fail if no enging [/i] or whatever is encountered
ending*
but a stack is much better
and ridiculously easy to use

you might be able to pull it off by repeatedly applying regexes

yup

It still makes it considerably longer. It's currently just a few of these: $content = preg_replace('/\[(\/)?i(talic)?\]/i', '${1}i', $content);
Oh well, I suppose I have no choice.

1. first pull out any actual html. 2. do rplaces like \[i\](.*?)\[\\i]
multiple times
then each instance of [i] will require [/i]
and you're all set.

Hmmm

oops, taht \\i == /i

I remember having issues with something like that though

sounds like you didn't use regex right then

Ahh i know what it was. Being greedy

taht'd do it

hello
im trying to modify a wordpress theme by substituting my flash movie for the authors image...

Remember what the non-greedy modifier is?

#page {
url(/wp-content/uploads/screenofhotel.jpg) no-repeat center top;

?
i did it in the statemnet ti gave you (.*?)

Ah of course. Sorry. I forgot about that. I was thinking of the other method... like /i = case insensitive

is there some way to do this?

yup, it's per-repeat-modifier

excuse me, where i could a good html course?

huh
oh
he left

http://blueshirtstudio.com/index.php/The_Windows_Replacement_Project

no advertising

Yes no shilling

asked in php but no matter what I try it's not working correctly.,. code: http://pastebin.com/929343 why must the checkbox NOT be checked in order for it to submit? if it is checked the error warning is given

I'm trying to get an image to appear in the center of a table cell.
oh hell, this will be on the web somewhere. never mind.
haha, I remembered the syntax right after all.
I just typo-ed align as alight

t00na wanted me to tell you that lasagna is good for you in copious amounts

Why are we being spammed by that strange little bot?

uh how can I align text besides a paragraph?

within a larger form?

is it shine? or it's better to don't use two links too much near?

to understand that they're linked to two different pages

Do you know if i can design a forum using HTML and CSS ?

Hi guys... I've got AJAX set up for a little user login script, so it comes up if they have the wrong password in a div tag instead of having to refresh the entire web page, but the problem I'm having now is trying to get the Javascript redirection thing working with AJAX... it does not appear to be executing my script
oahh, and in CSS, how do I fade out text, to say, 50%?

you'll need more than that, unless you plan to post things manually.
(html has to be hooked up to something, or else form inputs don't go anywhere, right?)

so it is not easy to design a forum! I must use a ready one ?

you can make a forum with php and html and an sql database
but it's not really a good idea
it's too big a job to be a fun "exercise" for learning
and there are plenty of ready-made php forums that will do the job
a much better exercise is to create a "wall"
like on Facebook.

phpbb and vbulleting
Do you know if they are good ?

Both those are very good
hmmm
damn AJAX and redirections not working
How do I fade text?

text-shadow
sorry :P

lol my PHP class in college... thats what we did
make a forum
was fun

How do I use text-shadow??

I'm not sure it's very well supported

I think Safari supports it. =3

closed source browser that only works on a closed source OS? woopdy doo

Sorry, Dr. Works Under A Rock. It's on your precious Windows now, too. :P
Or are you Linux-crazy?

so now it works on two closed source OS's
fail to see how that's much of an improvement

No... I want to make a piece of text, like the footer 50% of the darkness of the rest of the text

Great. Now instead of arguing with Windows-crazy everyone, I get to argue with open-source-crazy everyone.
Because apparently my software of choice isn't good enough. :P

damn straight!

ANYBODY!!!?
#off-topic

No one can hear you.

but they are same line

you say that like it being open source is not something worth considering.
aa^way: validate your code. I'm guessing you forgot something :/

Are you back to insulting me from half an hour ago?

I was watching stuff, and I don't see how I insulted you...

doc|work yep works now

Oh, right, you weren't the guy who insulted e.
me*

ok then...

elements ?

i need a way to make a regular link look like a button
but still act like a link

rook2pawn, use css to do it

i'd like to javascript to do buttons
css buttons = 10x more bytes of code than javascript buttons

rook2pawn, the JavaScript way would be exactly as the CSS way,... except you have JS document.write the buttons so you save on page size

don't you need an onclick function
css you would define a hyperlink setting
thats the difference

I don
't see a difference, to submit a form you'd assign onclick either way
and for link.. you'd use a link either way
I've the feeling you're looking at your problem the wrong way

perhaps. im still familiarizing myself with js.
ive seen button code for css and button code for js. button code for css seems more independent, since it doesnt relatea button necessarily to a form
nvm thats incoherent

What's the link to the html validator referer?

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