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the how-to: I was reading explained that I could run the
radeopn drivers with AIGLX or XGL as long as I have it renderaccel
on
uthe how-to: I was reading explained that I could run the
radeopn drivers with AIGLX or XGL as long as I have it renderaccel
on/u
Open /etc/security/console.perms.d/50-default.perms in an
editor.
I just can not enable rederaccel.
GLXGears tells me I'm getting 700+ fps
Software GL most likely
zzoid, is there an easy way to switch between beryl and
compiz?
Still working on getting the pastebin into a file...Just a
sec
You should get 1500-2000 for even weak hardware GL
zzoid, i'm on a centrino based laptop with the 915 chipset
video built in
Use the "Show as plain text" link.
alpha255, using the beryl manager
So it's not working ...
alpha255, if i use beryl i get no window panes, and if i switch
to compiz from beryl gnome crashes
OK. Got it. Now for /etc/security/(etc.)
glxinfo | head, Direct Rendering will say No I suspect.
alpha255, but if i just juse the cube desktop effects its
ok
Sounds like you'r enot running a Decorator
OK. Whenever you're ready.
0600 root".
is beryl running just as a white cube?
hummm
Correct
Khaytsus, erm dunno really
zzoid, no, no white cubes
im getting a yum update error now
I'm really getting annoyed now
Got it.
libraw1394 conflicts with kernel 2.6.21-1.3194.fc7
echo "hello there " | sed -e 's/[[:space:]]*/ /'
why isn't that working ?
3194 is not the current kernel being used
Replace both "0600" with "0660" and "root" with
"root.audio".
zzoid, sorry gota go
rpm -q --provides kernel
have to work on the honey-do list
Got it.
Save, quit, reboot.
that shows both
And the versions on them?
direct rendering: No
SGI
1.2
OK - I'll go try that. I'm going to need to close this
though. I'll be right back.
kernel-i686 = 2.6.21-1.3194.fc7
kernel-i686 = 2.6.21-1.3228.fc7
Find the howto for your card to get GL going
nice chattin thanks for the help folk
Hrm. No kernel-xen installed?
yeah but its not shown there
not being used either atm
xarchive says it does not support rar, yet the site says it
does. What library do I need to work with rar files?
Not shown where? By the command I gave you?
yes
cottima, maybe unrar
xen kernel is installed on this box though
My bad. rpm -q --whatprovides kernel
Nevermind... The minute I searched for the howto on GL, I
found
If you have any of these cards or graphics, Beryl will not work
for you at all!
Radeon Xpress 200
Radeon Xpress 1100 series
I'm running the 1100 =\
pwned
5 lines:
Indeed =(
kernel-2.6.21-1.3194.fc7
kernel-xen-2.6.20-2925.9.fc7
kernel-PAE-2.6.21-1.3194.fc7
kernel-PAE-2.6.21-1.3228.fc7
kernel-2.6.21-1.3228.fc7
Anyone know a good utillity or applet to connect to WiFi in
KDE?
Do any of them have a version that would cause the problem
you're seeing?
Does this mean Wine and steam are out of the question as well
then?
As it stands I need to load Gnome and connect, then log out
and launch KDE, not the most efficient way of doing
things.
the top one
the 3194 regular kernel
Look again please, at both the error and the output of the
command.
Ah, I found 'tr', which does the equivalent much better
echo "hello there " | tr -s [[:space:]]
how can I boot in init 3, please?
Edit /etc/inittab and change the id entry.
Error: libraw1394 conflicts with kernel
2.6.21-1.3194.fc7
I need it just for 1 time. Can I change grub parameters? and
how, please?
Okay, now look at the versions in the output.
Pass a 3 at the end.
its the first one listed
That's the latest xen kernel AFAIK
No, it isn't.
just adding character '3' ?
It's the second one.
thanks a lot
With a space separating it, yes.
ok thank you
the xen kernel?
Yes.
I just found a video on youtube with someone running an
xpress 1100 running Beryl =(
is fedora 7 working good or are there some bugs yet? I'm running
fc6 now
Hi! I'm back.
so how can i remedy this?
rpm needs a way to know which kernel is running rather than
what's installed. I run into this frequently when people install
2.4 kernels on a box for core analysis
it works. there always is bugs.
FC6 still has about 6.5 months left. Don't feel rushed to
switch.
You could... remove kernel-xen.
I'm back up. Volume control still doesn't work. What else do
I need to do?
OK, here it is, the command-line you have all been waiting
for. You want to download everything to satisfy the installation of
'some_app' using rpms.
yumdownloader `yum deplist some_app | grep provider | sort -u |
tr -s [:blank:] | cut -d " " -f 3`
No, really, no applause. I do it cause I love you
ok thanks for you advice. But I'm curious to try :P lol
Now you need to add the appropriate users to the audio group,
and have them relog.
If you're running an ATI card.. stay at 6 =\
I have an nVidia
an Intel on my laptop
Then the support as always is excellent in that view, and the
intel drivers work too, for the chipsets
kernel removed, do i need to reboot?
No.
OK - I'll be back in a minute.
PinTail_b, yumdownloader --resolve
ahh indeed, yum update is working now :P
thank you !
Damn it
I thought I was being so cool
guzu thank you
np
The only problem I've had with 7 is the lack of How-Tos and
people using it for support
PinTail_b, cleverness acknowledged.
the yum update has a xorg update and selinux update, do i need
to reboot for those? or just logout and in?
Restarting X is enough for the xorg update. The SELinux update
is applied upon install.
oh ok I see. Well, I guess I can install it without problems
then
I have another question actually.. if my Ath0 is not recognized,
does that mean I can never get it working since it is only able to
be enabled in WIndows?
madwifi
The drivers are all installed for you
ok
good
Madwifi did not recongized it
http://fedoramobile.org/fc-wireless/madwifi-yum-livna
Are you sure it's an Atheros card then?
I installed madwifi, and I still had no Ath0
I read stuff online that said the Acer Aspire 5102WLMi had an
Atheros wireless card
What does lspci say?
what's that?
It's like ls and PCI all in one.
as in, I have no clue what ls is
Try running it from the command line.
2.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce
One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev
...Wait.
Not Atheros.
Fedora has built in support for that controller =\
I'll try it
http://fedoramobile.org/fc-wireless/bcm43xx-yum-extras
yum install that?
Open it in your browser and read.
ah
sorry =P
It's a bit out of date, but it should still mostly work.
Well, that fixed the problem of multiuser audio.
Unfortunately, I can't seem to switch users back to my own user
account (I'm using my brother's).
That's a completely different problem :P
When I try to switch, I get a background, a cursor, and my
"Logged in" sound from GNOME, but that's about it.
Yes, I'm inclined to agree with you. :P
*shrug* I know nothing!
i forgot how to install tar.gz packages, it's been 2 years
since I used linux..
Well, how about anyone else? Anyone have any ideas why GNOME
would freeze when I try to log in?
You don't need to install anything. Just use File
Roller.
It freezes after it displays the background and cursor, and
after it plays the "Logged in" sound, but before the panels come up
or the applets are loaded.
tar -xzvf file and view the README and INSTALL files for
directions.
But only under one user. The other users are not affected.
Any ideas?
what's the file roller? =(
A compressed file browser kind of thing. Really handy.
I feel incredibly stupid whenever I enter an IRC channel
haha
Applications | Accessories | Archive Manager
Can you try loading the fail safe profile?
Never heard of it. Where do I find it?
Well, there's 2 files in it, but I'm unsure on what to do with
them.
There's nothing on the site, and no readme
Try reading the page completely.
You'll probably want to extract them from the file with File
Roller. Then, they'll be regular files.
at the login screen there should be an option for selecting
the session.
OK. Let me go check.
tyrok, i have had that problem, deleted the .gnome .gnome2
.gnome2_private, .gconf* directories, but that is where gnome keeps
all of its settings so I would just move them if I were
you
My wireless card is detected as Ethernet, is that ok?
i'm looking for help with my ftp server
you can try disabling applications in the startup of the
session once the fail safe profile has loaded.
You mean the "Default System Session"?
i can't get it to do anything
ya
OK
I'll try those ideas. Hold on a second...
what do you mean it is detected at Ethernet? it is eth1? if so
then, yes that is OK
it is
Looks like "Default System Session" still freezes. I'll try
gened's idea now. Just a second...
3c501 device eth1 does not seem to be present, delaying
initialization.
Well ya, gened's idea will work
wireless is the only thing stopping me from being full time
linux
If I got it to work, I enjoy the control of secure linux web
hosting more than anything else, but wireless is a must for
me
Uhhh, looks like I'm going to be one of those
pain-in-the-neck oddballs on here.
_Hybrid, what chipset?
Neither way worked.
I tried moving all of the dirs gened listed into a new dir
"oldgnome". Still doesn't work.
bcm43xx
mhhhh
you're able to login to this user from command line without
any errors?
looks like a lot wireless drivers are broken
tyrok, move the entire home dir the, and then just move your
data back bit by bit, it works on a totally new profile
right?
2.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318
[AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev
but I think I may have figured it out
Yep - no problem there at all.
OK - hold on.
_Hybrid, do you have the dirver loaded into the kernel?
_Hybrid, does F7 detects your card
does ifconfig list the card?
That didn't even work.
However, it did still have my old background as the background
rather than the default. I think I'll try restarting. I'll be right
back.
F7 detects it
But when I use it, it says...
If there a GTK-Beryl lib?
3c501 device eth1 does not seem to be present, delaying
initialization.
_Hybrid, how are you trying to connect?\
Network
eth1? I've read that not being eth0 can cause problems with
Networkmanager.
_Hybrid, disable networkmanager and
networkmanagerdispatch
ifconfig does not detect Eth1
how do I do that?
have you tried disabling the rpmq cronjob?
administration -services
both are disabled
_Hybrid, good
they were before
=\
can you tell me what you get when u do ifconfig -a?
I get a wlan0
lo, eth0
wmaster0-00
and that's it
_Hybrid, good
_Hybrid, are you using WEP?
no
_Hybrid, if you do iwconfig, can u see your essid?
ESSID ""
/sbin/iwconfig ra0 essid youressid
there isnt an essid
wlan0 IEEE 802.11g ESSID:""
_Hybrid, your wireless router should have one
Hi, I'm back.
_Hybrid, sory
/sbin/iwconfig wlan0 essid youressid
And logged into my own user. Thanks for the help!
Well
I have to go
I made plans... I'll be back around 9 and hopefully get this set
up
Thanks - I'm back up and running again.
I'll remember I'm on the essid step
tyrok, good to hear
than's we2by
thanks*
_Hybrid, np
Any suggestions as to which files in particular would cause
that?
I'll need to copy my old stuff back over.
tyrok, just copy over your data, and stay away from copying
and .gnome stuff over
tyrok, panels, nautilus, stuff causes that
OK - thanks.
so what i am saying is unless it is an application . file
dont copy it over, ie .vimrc would be fine, but not .gconf, or
.gconfd
Hey, I saw a widget manager for gnome and kde and I think xfce
too, but I do not remember the name.
gdesklets ?
sdodson, it is now. will see how long before yum pukes
again.
I've got everything else copied (well, moved back actually). I
think I'm going to need to restart though. Thanks for the
help!
sdodson, oh YES! thanks
I'm back up and running, and it looks like the volume control
still works. Thanks!
Bye!
still around?
does anyone know which gconf key/setting tells the "desktop
effects" to start? Basically I need to switch it off manually, as
using the gui causes a crash (and doesn't change the
setting
hellpo
-p
hello :P
njpatel, not sure. You can always remove compiz.
yeah, that makes sense I suppose
does anyone know what the plan is for a KDE update to release
3.5.7?
seems like mugshot overloaded very frequent lately
No india for me. Bummer.
so, is this new kernel I'm presently getting through yum
going to solve my opengl probs with my ATI card?
my system is so stable without Beryl :_)
I've noticed my firefox crashes a lot
but my real issue is total lack of opengl
Yanroy, that's caused by plugins and extensions. base firefox is
stable.
ferrum, the only extension I have is the delicious buttons
oh, and flash
flash crashes mine.
(on occasion)
I was very happy to see that FlightGear made it into the F7
repos... but when I installed it and ran it, it complained about
lack of opengl
so I'm stuck yet again
(I was here a few days ago with this same prob)
Yanroy, iirc the problem is with the drivers themselves, not
with the kernel
ferrum, well, atm, I'm still using the supplied radeon driver
because the ATI drivers for FC5 destroyed my system and I don't
want to risk it again
is there no short-term solution to my prob until ATI releases
the new drivers?
buy a nvidia card
as far as I know, that's correct.
or usa vesa
use*
can't buy a new card... it's a laptop
I have nvidia in my desktop
why on earth would you put an ATI card in a laptop?
;_;
does vesa give me hardware acceleration through opengl? and
if so, how do I use it?
Yanroy, I don't believe so.
ferrum, ask sony
nope, no opengl with vesa
k :'(
anyone have trouble getting a movie dvd to play with a pic in
F-7
.
how I remove kde desktop and install gnome?
Add/Remove Software on your menu
SAM_theman, you can have both, so unless you're low on disk
space, there's really no reason to remove KDE first
sound buddie
its not working with sound
actually, if you're using the graphical add/remove tool,
removing KDE before installing gnome is probably a poor
choice
no it's not
Is there a /etc/modules file for fedora like in Debian? Where
I can just add "aes", so the aes module loads when the system
boots.
sam_theman is a domain host
squatter?
hah. apparently
because modules are loaded on demand. And of nothing requires
aes, there's no point loading it.
s/of/if
unless he's gotten his own link wrong
maybe an evil domain squatter stole his domain?
I've heard that's becoming more popular
Ya, it sucks
sid, usually I just add a modprobe line to
/etc/rc.d/rc.local
Can anyone please point me to a mirror with a _complete_ set
of programs for a ftp install for fedora 7? i've tried 3 already,
and each of them are missing packages.
including the kernel.org one
no modules should require that hack that comes directly from
the old XXth century -_-
Does anyone have any recommendations for laptops that F7 will be
happy on?
perlmonkey2, define happy
perlmonkey2, Dell Inspiron E1405
it's beautiful, running it now
All the hardware is supportd
seven hours of battery life
wireless is broadcom, so works with ndiswrapper.
Wow......I'll look at it now. Thanks
None who can recommend a complete mirror?
perlmonkey2, aside from what is supposedly a minor hiccup
with the video drivers, my sony s170 works great
make sure you get Intel gfx
upgrade to Core 2 Duo and make the HD 7200 RPM
Yanroy: Does Beryl run on Gnome pretty fast?
perlmonkey2, yes, flawlessly.
and quickly. It's awesome.
I'm not using beryl or gnome, so I wouldn't know. and my lappy
is a couple years old, so the gfx card isn't state-of-the-art
anymore
make sure you upgrade to core 2 duo, though. It's better for
battery life and is faster.
umake sure you upgrade to core 2 duo, though. It's better for
battery life and is faster./u
Looks like the 1405 has been replaced with the 1505
Hello, anyone who can recommend a site with a complete setup
of packages for a ftp install?
perlmonkey2, no, 1505 was out when I was buying. It's a
bulkier version.
Oh, then they must hide the 1405 to make the 1505 sell a little
better.
hey there
ferrum, how old is your dell?
i have a rar file and i want to set a password so when i try to
open/view the rar file it should prompt for password
Yanroy, a year
is this achievable?
iirc
wait, no
sigh
I got it in... March?
ferrum, in my experience, dells only last about a year...
that's why I avoid them like the plague
none?
if I have my firewall open on port 25, sendmail running, and
can telnet from a machine to itself and sendmail to users on the
machine, but cannot telnet to 25 remotely, is it safe to assume
someone is blocking my port 25 along the way?
or is there possibly some sort of configuring I need to do
linuxgeek_h, should be, but rar isn't available for f7 in livna
yet.
I've got selinux on permissive
i'm using fc5 on this box
i downloaded a file which was a rar file
avegas_, irrc, a lot of "professional" networks block port 25
because it could be indicative of a spambot installed on the
comp
i tried unrar e -ppassword file.rar
*iirc
thinking it would set a password to the archive
most ISPs block port 25 due to spam
avegas_, you should not be using telnet, anyway. SSHd supplants
telnetd.
am i missing something or is my approach worng?
linuxgeek_h, unrar only unrars, it doesn't change rar
files.
ferrum, just testing things
am i correct in saying to acheive my task, rar is the
utility
uam i correct in saying to acheive my task, rar is the
utility/u
linuxgeek_h, I would guess, and this is only a guess, that to
do what you want, you need to extract the files and then re-rar
them into a new rar file that is created with a
password
or your mailer doesn't listen to anything but localhost
which happens to be the default in fedora..
AndyCap, so I should dig around in sendmail.mc?
to re-rar them,i would still need a rar utility don't i?
mm
AndyCap, thanks, you're the man
and in unrar man page whats the option -p[set password]
do?
linuxgeek_h, is your end goal to protect some files or to
create a rar archive? if you're just trying to password-protect
some files, there are better ways
linuxgeek_h, specifies the password.
\msg AndyCap This would be the line to change, right:
in channel please..
or use a pastebin
is the password specified for the extracted files[i think it
does],if yes,until i supply the password i will not be able to view
the contents of the extracted files?
okay
just a line. so I'll paste
i want to protect files which happen to be .rar files
well, actually things are off in a vm, so it's easier to
pastebin
http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=us&cs=19&kc=6V440&l=en&oc=DNCWEL1&s=dhs
and it has Intel wireless
also swap 6-cell for 9-cell.
linuxgeek_h, linux has some very simple and elegant ways of
making encrypted directories or filesystems
Hmm.....1505N? cool
perlmonkey2, and comes with ubuntu, so no MS tax
AndyCap, http://slexy.org/paste/3118
I have to go to Tom's and see the speed comparisons on these
mobile chips. Not sure what the difference is.
Oh, heh. This is the model I was thinking about. Hah, I guess this
is validation.
right line, but not sure what's the right candidate
okay, experiment time then
hi
how can I play mp3 with noatun?
Egads, $100 to upgrade form 5400rpm to 7200rpm same size HD.
Can't I just not get a HD from them and buy one off newegg?
gpg -c somefile is a very simple solution
perlmonkey2, it's a small laptop-sized hard drive, but I
don't see why not.
install the mp3 plugin for it -_-
see the man yum -_-
dunno which one install
there's a removable part on the bottom for swapping in/out hard
drives.
guess ? I dont know what noatun is. Probably using
gstreamer.
and you need to remake the m4 config into a sendmail.cf after
editing with some make commande
thx, i was reading the doc now pgp gpg gaurdbot
linuxgeek_h, and for making entire encrypted filesystems, look
at cryptsetup and its ilk
it uses arts
or alsa
AndyCap, yeah and I even have to install the sendmail-cf package
first
you could go into the deep end and edit sendmail.cf
directly...
AndyCap, I like my floatation devices thank you very
much
alsa and arts sound backend. It has nothing to do with
codecs.
_are_ sound backend.
hi folks, when I log into Gnome then I get a empty desktop..
after a lot of HDD activity a gre square shows in the top-left
corner (looks like a popup / warning dialog box that fails to draw
completely.. just it grey background) ... ~xsession-error shows a
lot of ALSA related errors (cannot find soundcard '0') etc.... any
help here?
uhi folks, when I log into Gnome then I get a empty desktop..
after a lot of HDD activity a gre square shows in the top-left
corner (looks like a popup / warning dialog box that fails to draw
completely.. just it grey background) ... ~xsession-error shows a
lot of ALSA related errors (cannot find soundcard '0') etc.... any
help here?/u
so all I get after a long time is just an empty desktop with
that grey half baked dialog box (?) in the top-left
corner
and it was working before? you can create a new user, see if
the default settings work.
how do i get root on file browers, what is the command i
use
for anyone who's interested, in order to receive mail from
foreign hosts one must delete the Addr option from the
aforementioned line, and then
make -C /etc/mail/ ;
get a root terminal, nautilus
and then restart sendmail
nautilus, thanks
I think did a chmod -R 0777 /home/rob/ a long time ago (from
a SSH Putty remote terminal) attepting to get access to
/home/rob/shared/ or something like that.. now today I tried to
login locally and this problem showd up: no more
desktop
is there somewhere where i can get this info besides asking
yall each time?
well, there's a howto for making a root file manager launcher at
http://fedoranews.org/contributors/matt_hansen/nautilus/
chmod 0777 is never needed. It's a stupid thing to do.
robdeman, you could have just hard-linked the folder
especially with -R
indeed.
I know that 0777 is stupid. But, I added a adduser rob2 amd that
user has the same problem
fedorared what i'm talking about is like.. aliases that the
programs use.. for example the text editor uses gedit, and file
browser uses nautilus, is there some list i can have to show all
the "aliases" to address programs
list of the generic names? not really. you can dig around in
the *.desktop files I guess
Preferred applications
AndyCap, i don't have "more preferences" and beyond
Preferred applications.
not running gnome then? (or is this F7, which I haven't tried
yet)
i'm Fedora 7
They separated everything out neatly in F7... Why haven't you
trued it? Just haven't gotten around to it?
takes time to get free space etc.. only have my mythtv
backend on F7 yet
utakes time to get free space etc.. only have my mythtv backend
on F7 yet/u
Personal? ho-hum
somebody needs to make some hard decisions on the prefs
menu.
There is personal
host and Look and Feel... which makes sense... Internet, and
then the two that should be merged.
System is Power Management, which you can access via
Screensavers in Look and Feel... it should be in Hardware at least
to cut down menu's...
Hardware should be cut
robdeman, iirc, there are some options somewhere to prevent
you from logging in if your home dir is set to be world-writable. I
use KDE, not gnome, and I only came across these options
accidentally right after I installed F7, so I'm not sure if it's
related to your prob
lunitik, makes most sense if everything is merged into
System.
can you tell me if fedora core 6 has a limit of 32 characters
for a file name, and how i can raise that limit if
possible?
i'm trying to upload a file to my ftp server, and it works for most
files, but one file i'm trying to upload is 35 characters long, my
ftp log shows it being uploaded, it just doesn't show up
anywhere
does anyone know why /boot is ext3 by default instead of
ext2?
also,how can I disable ALSA?
robdeman, right click on the gnome volume applet and select
"Preferences", then change the device to OSS.
I think those kind of limits depend on the file system and the
server host
software, not that it's Fedora
it's got journaling?
I cant loginto Gnome b/c ALSA crashes... GDM fails
fedorared, my boot partition requires journaling?
you're free to use whatever you want
true, just curious.
ext3 default across the board is simplest I guess
you checked your ftp server settings for the destination
directory?
do I really need sendmail on my system?
brb
I don't know, do you?
I don't use evolution to check mails. I only use my
webbrowser
thunderbird B-)
so...
we2by, you don't need sendmail even to check mails with
evolution..
can I use a fc yum repo on a 'scratch' linux and expect
things to work?
so I can disable sendmail from startup?
what is 'scratch' linux?
faceface, define "scratch"
ferrum, a linux
web hosting distribution made and maintained by 2 guys with
a specific set of requirements that do not apply to me
namely, every single installed app should run on about 10 different
arch
If the rpms install on it, sure why not
faceface, yum has dependencies. If you can fulfill the
dependencies, then it should work.
heh... they specifically didn't want rpm on their distro
Then a Fedora repo won't be very useful.
that is why I am installing rpm and yum into $PREFIX...
if you let yum do everything, you'll basically wind up with a
fedora system (minus some hardware configuration)
(and kernel, other systems, blah.)
ferrum, OK
that is fine by me ^TM
why not just install fedora then and save yourself the time
_
seems like I finally got rpm installed
ferrum, install fedora at work? are you crazy man?
faceface, you're running some linux that doesn't even use
packages, that sounds much more crazy
whats wrong with linux hosting at
work?
install a tried and tested linux with 100's if not 1000's of
developers over some crappy system developed by 3 guys?
at work, i play with mac and linux B-)
you are too crazy!
A few people can do great things.
fedorared, not thes guys
haha
I mean, it is usefull for them to controll everything
they have 100's of users and mostly they are not developers
faceface, I feel your pain :[ I've been waiting for two days
for gentoo to finish compiling.
What is the advantage of this scratch linux hosting
then?
do these guys at your job have "W1nD0z$ $eVeR R4Ck'$" on
their wall?
$erV3R actually
darn misspelling
the scratch linux distro helps them controll the multi arch
archeteccture and central fs
do you have anyone running Zod from a pendrive yet?
What arch support do you need?
i.e. all software should work on all systems including all
cpu farms and have constent access to all disks etc etc
i wonder if i got any snail mail today.....brb
fedorared, put it this way, they will never surrender 'their'
linux to something decent like fedora
faceface, hooray, but why are you using it?
there's an isotostick.sh script out there, I think it works
on the FC6 live CD
ferrum, I thought they would let me run fc when I started work
there and now I don't want to quit over an os
I already have it working - with Innotek Virtualbox in
Vista
o_O
wel... I trying to get yum installed ... thanks for help
I recommend you install fedora then remove any references to
the word "fedora" and all fedora-specific artwork
ferrum, I don't know how to set up the automounting stuff ...
besides they would notice other things
what company is
this?
back
The glorious "Max Planck Institute"
one institute runs this linux
now... how do I install yum
yum insta... oh
eh
faceface, they're not using scientific linux?
download the .rpm and extract
heh I mean
dang... I can't get Fedora to install, it keeps overheating
during the process! 102C was today's highest
woohoo! pay stub
tobi1canobe, nope
I guess I'm going back to Noobuntu
idiots
that means i got paid
[debug], put your computer in the freezer
ferrum - here's how it works
ouch...102C?
tobi1canobe, I feel so
my sys temp is 117F
ferrum, well, I opened up the laptop's case today, and I put
canned air all through it, but no success.. it was pretty clean I
guess
Innotek virtualbox lets you run a virtual PC
103deg F
meh
i dunno
[debug], does fedora complain about ACPI?
ty, thanks for sympathy
but thats why fedora's not working
bye
gl
so in essence you could have those complaints if I were
running it on a Mac too...
ferrum, no, its just installing fine, then it goes and does
a.. Critical temperature reached (102c) or something like
that
turn on the air conditioning in your house and put a fan onto
it
[debug], submerge your computer in a flowing stream of distilled
water
no ferrum
hell no!
he has to put it in condensed water
i run the smc fan control on my macbook at work
actually, tw2113, it is distilled water :p
it helps keep the temp down by spinning the fan faster
do they make water cooled laptops?
[debug], not sane people
damn
haven't had a problem with the hp laptop i'm using right now
with f7 on it
alpha255, what model is it?
anyway, bbl
dv1000
[debug]: liquid cooled yes. water no
which is more important, system temp or cpu temp?
depends on which components you care more about
heat is bad
tw2113, both are important
my sys is 118, and an orange color for my temperature
graphic
my cpu is 88 and green
Add more fans.
i have my side panel open and a small box fan blowing on it
right now
if sys temp is higher than cpu temp start worrying
i have a bit to worry about with a 30F difference
tw2113, well, my laptop was ~215F XD
its sitting on an a/c vent atm
good idea
why fedora 7 report my HDD as sda but it is hda?!?!
no it is sda
I know what i am talking it is ATA on all linuxes it says hda,
and on previous fedoras but on 7 it says sda!?!?
if you read the release notes you would see that F7 has
switched to the libata driver for old IDE PATA
controllers
pardon...
i prefer all being sda
and the drive is sda.. whether or not it is a scsi device is
another matter. ;-)
PATA is now sdX as well to match almost every other driver out
there.
AndyCap, do you have any idea whether or not the sendmail in
fedora is compiled with support for libmilters?
no clue.
[debug], the naming really doesn't matter
unless you're upgrading
Via yum.
somehow I don't believe anaconda does a perfect job of it
either
yep, i forgot about the move to sda too
AndyCap, fyi, it indeed was
anaconda does a lot better of a job than a lot of other installers
though
doesn't the debian installer use anaconda?
sarge or something like is where it was started?
the new gentoo gui installer is pretty horrendous
guess it isn't that new anymore
avegas_, tried using it last night
woke up this morning to a conflict between USE flag thread and
sharedmem :3
folks, I installed xbmsp (XBOX MEdia Center streaming protocol)
which runs at port 1400 ... now everytime I run sudo apt-get
update.. etc.. it says... "Connecting to xbmsp://charmap:1400/" ... "locale:
Can't connect to host charmap." ... and then it just continuoes
doing apt-get's normal stuff.... what on earth could cause
this??
wow am i dreaming? F7 has ntfs support and it is RW
fuseblk?
avegas_, the terminal-based install works though.
ferrum, yeah, I put together a little gentoo vm
Ask the apt-rpm maintainer.
ferrum, at some point I'm going to make a nice little vmware
gentoo box and publish it
I installed xbmsp y hand, from a source package from
sourceforge.net
avegas_, that just takes all the fun out of the
experience
any way to speed up the boot process?
also kinda destroys the point of defining all the flags and
options yourself..
we2by, don't shutdown, hibernate
we2by, use initng instead of init
lol
ferrum, what is the difference?
ferrum, gentoo's great for one off image
replication
ouch, long url
we2by, it's a totally different system. It runs startup scripts
in parallel.
fedora uses yum for package management .. if you installed
something from a tarball why do you thinkk "apt-get update" will
work?
ferrum, just an advanced version of lfs really
AndyCap, the fun of the trip would be in the journey
ferrum, how do I switch to initng?
should I install initng first?
anyone having trouble with playing a movie dvd and getting a pic
in F-7?
we2by, yum install initng
ehrm you right, wrong channel sigh (using more than 1 linux
box here ... )
zodiac, there's a deeper question... why on earth is he
connecting via that protocal
we2by, it installs a new kernel option. When you're booting,
choose that option.
ah, okay
can't wait to reboot
ferrum, does it use the same scripts in /etc/init.d/ or
different ones?
tobi1canobe, different ones.
what package do i need for this? ./firefox-bin: error while
loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared
object file: No such file or directory
we2by, hope it works last bug report I filed for it it was
outputting everything in Cyrillic
lol
yum install firefox
aldin, yum install compat-libstdc++
i know that but would like to... thanks ferrum
Bad ferrum!
why ?
You shouldn't be installing external binaries for anything in
Fedora except under exceptional circumstances.
nevermind... btw didi this and it works hehe yum install
libstdc++.so.5
if you had installed ff from yum this wouldn't be happenkng
*happening
it pulled this
aldin, yes it works, but you shouldn't go outside the RPM
database.
compat-libstdc++-33.i386 0:3.2.3-61
i know, so what i just use it localy?
zodiac, you can lead a horse.....
aldin, all programs you install should be installed through yum
or RPM.
no compiling from source, unless there is no other option.
and then it's advisable to configure with --prefix=/opt
that's one of the reasons why i've limited my input
here.
ok thanks
zodiac, i find however that horses love to be led off of
cliffs
i noticed
i just want to watch my movie
yarddog, yer in a movie!
yarddog, good for you
bah
are ye a pirate?
got a lot of errors
arrrrrrrrr
we2by, what are the errors?
did someone mention pirates? http://pbfcomics.com/archive/PBF086AD-Yarteries.jpg
ferrum, I didn't pay much attention, but there are a lot of
errors
including segmentation fault at the end
we2by, hum. It works for the maintainer so he doesn't know
what to be fixing.
if you can wrap up a bug report that'd be helpful
rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
there has to be a reason for this
is there some meta package which would pull all KDE development
libraries
anyone having trouble with playing a movie dvd and getting a pic
in F-7?
or is there some yum command ekvivalent to apt-get build-dep on
debian?
yarddog, check out fedorasolved.org
been there....something exact there?
works for me each time yarddog
what does?
their howtos
i have everything installed already
i have sound, its running, but no pic
ive tried mplayer, totem, vlc, and more
no pic
yarddog, what video driver are you using
ive looked in forums, ive used the email list too
its the fedora radeon one from f7
no fglrx yet for F7
can some one recommend me a simple mp3 player, one simpler
than xmms
i have dri too
yum grouplist / groupinstall
yarddog, have you messed with the configs in xorg ? I had
problems with one option
preferable one that uses gtk2
Did you log the bug?
where?
I am in a spot of trouble! I have everything updated to fedora 7
but the f7 kernel hangs when I try to run it. The DVD hangs after I
pick my keyboard and I was unable to get any better results
building my own initrd.
audacious is a gtk2 xmms clone
/topic
So I'm depending on the kindness of strangers.
beep media player
Quick question, is it possible to upgrade from fedora 4
directly to 6? Or would the recommend path to upgrade is 5 first,
then 6?
sorry i dont understand grouplist
snappy, recommended upgrade bath is fresh install
path*
can u give me example, lets say i need to compile knemo 0.4.8
(KDE apps)
yarddog, here's my xorg.conf http://rafb.net/p/mLYcu726.html
heh yeah, not really an option when it's remote, but
unfortunately needs to be done.
there are a few predefined groups, a KDE development one among
them
you could update the existing package to 0.4.8 and rebuild
linear: dm-linear: device lookup
thanks ill look at it
am I missing a module in my initrd, I wonder.
banyan, that's an upgrade right?
yes, which I tried to do by the dvd, but anaconda hangs after
I choose my keyboard.
so it was a yum upgrade...
im going to see if xorg needs editing, if not, ill file the
bug.
not my preferred choice.
banyan, the old kernels are still arround?
I'm running on one now!
how to do that
sorry i am newbie in rpm /yum world, i am kind "expert" in
apt-get
banyan, oh, cool. You found a bug in the new kernel, file a
bugwilla
um, really?
banyan, not that many people use linear lvm I guess
sorry dm-linear. whatever that is
describe what apt-get build-dep does so we can describe
equivalent functionality
Do I just need to build a --with= into the initrd?
How do I grab a file off of another Linux computer and move
it to the home directory on the FC6 Laptop I'm using
now?
morghanphoenix
scp
oops
yum install xmms-mp3 that will allow rythumbox to play
mp3s?
I'm logged in to the computer that has the file with SSH,
sitting in the directory but can't figure out scp
i have livna rpm installed
No. rhythmbox uses gstreamer.
no. gstreamer-plugins-ugly
ahh, thanks!
No zeroconf built in to the host or I'd just mosey on over
with konqueror and copy it, just a wee bit of a newbie
here
scp remotehost:/path/file ~
banyan, what module do you think is missing from the
initrd?
Fedora development seems to be up to knemo 0.4.7
http://www.fotothing.com/mmmstreaker/photo/6680c4510101ff84102dcf8e7883aa13/
stuning image
;o
stunning*
morghanphoenix, or.. if you need a gui way.... you can use
gnome desktop's connect to server feature and open an ssh network
connection
off topic.
morghanphoenix, and drag and drop the file using the standard
file manager inerface
what's the way to shrink an nfts partition to make room for
linux?
Well, it's moving it somewhere used scp
(IP#):/home/user/file.zip ~ while logged in to the other
machine.
you can`t be serious all the time
one way it to use ntfsresize from a live CD.
Can I be serious for him?
doesn't that need aeroconf built in though to do the GUI
transfer, my host is a really old computer that just has lots of
space on it.
NetworkManager takes down my wlan, eth1, is there some way i can
make it not do that?
morghanphoenix, gnome just access a ssh connection... just like
scp does
maybe one that allows linear device lookup.
I am guessing.
No. Neither gnome-vfs not fish should need anything
external.
*nor
morghanphoenix, so if scp works.... gnome's connect to ssh
server will work
morghanphoenix, you just haveto know the ip or dns name.... before
hand
Using KDE
morghanphoenix, because you aren't browsing the network.. you
are opening a specific connection to a specific computer somewhere
on the net
morghanphoenix, well if yer using kde... i cant help you..
outside my experience
though I hope this scp thing I just did is working, sure
transfered 2 gigs somewhere allready.
banyan, have you had a look at what was in the f7
initrd?
ubanyan, have you had a look at what was in the f7
initrd?/u
sweet music!
I couldn't remember what a person had to do in order to do
that.
Not having the problem of massive speed drop offs on copys after
200MB on the new computer
Was gonna.
it's a nice touch adding a music folder in the home of the
user
f7 is really nice; very polished and impressive; thank you!
alpha255, new xdg standard developed through freedesktop.org
discussions... the xdg directories are re-definable
nice
alpha255, personally... i hate them
I found the answer: Option "HWCursor" "off"
i could always go in and edit /etc/skel and customize to
contentment
boogerhead, Right oh mate! So yer up and running with no
further issues?
|DrJef|, why?
alpha255, look in /etc/xdf
absolutely!!!
alpha255, look in /etc/xdg
alpha255, if you want to play with the default xdg settings
so when you decide to re-install F7 (for what, the eighth
time, ninth time?) you won't have such a headache!
alpha255, the xdg settings assume per user home directory
layout
I was pretty sure it was all xorg.conf, but I just couldn't put
a handle on it until I checked the man pages on nv
alpha255, doesnt allow for a common shared location on
multi-user systems
Thanks again for helping me, check you later
|DrJef|, aahh
boogerhead, Well pat yerself on the back, go out and have ya
a few Budweisers (yech) a thick ol'Texas steak and shoot a few road
signs!
alpha255, so on a family system..where you want to say have a
dedicated disk for a comprehensive music library..and let people
build playlists from that.... its sucks ass
later!!!
what about a shared samba directory
Where is Gnome's desktop connect?
?
alpha255, the directory definitions... are relative to home
directory
morghanphoenix, look under places pull down
alpha255, according to the xdg standard
alpha255, "relative"
|DrJef|, ahh yes, good point
Places menu.
network manager deactivates eth1, is there any way to find out
why?
alpha255, so its somewhat short sited..and gets in the way of
more mature multi-user systems or home networks that make use of
network storage
or is that just what it does
OK I built another initrd with --with= for every one of my
currently running modules, for 3228.f7.
|DrJef|, good pint
pint = point
gotta go
alpha255, im already running into this with my wife's
computer with music and photos... because i have a dedicated
network disk so we can both get access to these
Places - Connect to Server?
Gonna try rebooting.
morghanphoenix, i thought you were using kde
|DrJef|, yes, shared storage is a big thing especially with
music, video and pictures all needing space
speaking of wife
gotta go
I switched to Gnome, though I know nothing at all about it,
it is on there.
honey -do list needs another thing crossed off
nice chatting
server would be the IP address of the host, yes? No idea what
port to use or what folder User Name and Name to use for connection
should have filled out in them
Ah, there it goes
where can i find yummed rpms.. i'd like to archive them
/var/cache/yum
thanks, but it seems that they are deleted after
install?
Depends on your yum config settings.
Thanks for the help, file is copying now
how to define it to not "clean"
Not a clue. Read the man pages.
ok
how to rebuild knemo to v0.4.8?
what's the most current par2 and rar?
evening
u read me?
No. Can't see a word yer typin
o.O strange
Yeah. Psychic
i have no browsing no msn not even another irc server
working
how come
only freenode hehe
Dunno - have you checked your SELinux settings?
on this machine m on windows cause of my 3d work
GD77, I'd be checking that and the firewall settings.
itis sudden now o.O hehe shish
GD77, Well, when ya reboot into FC, check that - the SELinux
settings and firewall settings.
ill fireup vmware and check fc6 connection hold hehe
I'm doing a 'yum update' after installing F7 and adding Livna
repo... I get this warning: warning: /etc/pam.d/system-auth created
as /etc/pam.d/system-auth.rpmnew Should I worry about
this?
nah
It just means "system-auth has local modifications, so I'm not
overwriting the file by the one from the new rpm".
GionnyBoss, generally no..but you may want to review the rpmnew
file
GionnyBoss, and compare it to the old one
oh ok I understand
thank you
GionnyBoss, this happens.. when a configuration file... has
local changes in it... rpmnew files are created instead of
disturbing the config
ok I see
GionnyBoss, rpmsave files are created when the package
overwrites the config
Hello, I am trying to set up my Fedora Core 7, now that I
have Internet in Fedora
thanks |DrJef|
bioeng, what's the problem?
First of all, I want to use ndiswrapper to install my Linksys
Wireless-G card
Secondly, I want to start using RSS
bioeng, www.fedorasolved.org
I have another problem, but I guess I have to fix it later when
my update will finish...
bioeng, have you been to fedorasolved or fedoraforum
yet?
Not yet, I am new to this because of previous Internet
connection problems in Fedora
In the firstboot configuration, sound card worked fine. Then,
after a reboot, it is only recognized my webcam microphone and I
have no devices for my soundblaster live. What can be the
problem?
yay, it worked
haha I think I ve found it I thin it is a port issue from my isp
mikrotech box -.-
what would cause some entries in /etc/crontab not to be run?
When I run it manually it works. Full paths to all binaries are
used, also. service status reports: crond (pid 2574) is
running...
Check the mail sent to root.
can someone please tell me where I can find a download of the
CD-ROMs of FC7? All I can find is the DVD
There are none.
MappyPants, the LiveCD
Whenever I try to use yum, I get the following text
http://pastebin.com/930441
did that, and nothing reported.
Download the dvd, mount it as loopback, then burn the iso's
on the dvd. As I hear. I'm all about the year 2000 and have a DVD
drive myself.
This would help me better use fedorasolved
bioeng, the adobe-linux repository seems to be malfunctioning.
Remove it.
Did you check if they even *have* a x86_64 repo?
Oh
I remember they did not have an x86_64 repository
How do I get it off?
fc7 yum update?
Maybe the depreciation of some of the auth functions....
Security = SHARE is gone I think, iirc.
Might go through swat and reconfigure
Hello, I'm looking for some assistance with setting up wireless.
I'm using FC6 and my hw is an hp pavilion ze4430 with a broadcom
card BCM4306. I followed the instructions at http://fedoramobile.org/fc-wireless/bcm43xx-yum-extras
but the card won't activate. Has anyone else had similiar issues
that they were able to resolve?
thats not the only problem tho, nmbd doest even start with
samba
mnixxon, yes. I used ndiswrapper instead.
ferrum - do you know a link to a site with instructions about
how to use ndiswrapper?
I'm feeling lucky
Thanks, I'll give it a go...
I can't seem to get adobe-linux repo off of yum. What command
will do this?
I have a WD USB external HD. How can I make it shared over samba
when its plugged in in F7?
bioeng, how did you add it?
I opened the rpm file to install Adobe Flash from Adobe
website
what was the name of the rpm?
I put every currently loading module in my initrd for f7 and
it still did the dm-linear thing.
Find the file in /etc/yum.repos.d and run rpm -qf against
it.
so I booted with the rescue thing.
ok, thanks
I don't know what the command line options are for anaconda
and the --help doesn't help.
So, poop.
Oh, and my raid drive doesn't load automatically anymore.
I have to run mdadm and also tell it all the devices despite that
all the info is already in my mdadm.conf.
so, I'm stuck for the time being running fc6 kernel on f7.
So no ideas for me?
All right, cool, it's fixed
Thanks
Same way you share it if it were a fixed disk.
petafile, set up a samba share on it.
how do I do that?
yum install system-config-samba
and samba-client
thanks
Missing Dependency: xine-lib = 1.1.6 is needed by package
xine-lib-extras-nonfree
I'm running yum update --exclude=xine-lib-extras-nonfree,xine-lib
but this error still appears
what am I missing here?
--exclude does not take multiple packages?
got it working :P
You can't have the extras without the main package.
it's the xorg.conf
you were right about the Xv
but in the conf
ferrum, that xinelib conflict lasted for several days, but
cleared up yesterday when livna updated
has anyone else had trouble installing F7 in VMWare?
the installation doesn't recognize disks for some reason
Use the BusLogic controller.
are you using scsi or ide ?
in vmware, scsi
should i be using ide instead?
need to use the non-default driver
yeah, i'm using the default
so why did FC6 detect it fine and F7 not?
just so that I know for future reference
I believe, what ivazquez said
The install kernel doesn't have the driver for the LSI Logic
controller.
oh that's weird
that's like most of my raid cards
good thing i run freebsd on my servers
yeah, good thing
so, did the devs just decide not to include that support in
the kernel?
Hey, anyone know of a guide to install ipw2200 drivers?
in F7, they are kinda busted
It's in the kernel. Just install the firmware.
other than this tiny little hiccup, i'm quite impressed with F7
overall so far
[debug], ipw2200 seems to just work "out of box" in f7
as long as i can get it onto my laptop, not much else
matters
connect even
daMaestro, no it doesn't :''(
it does for my friends thinkpad
and it's flakey at that
well I have an HP :p
doesn't for my thinkpad
it worked in noobuntu
there are a couple bugs about it
malikeye, are you using networkmanager?
yep
is network manager the one that comes standard?
yep
hmm
fedora's really not seeming as easy as i thought .
it seems if you use a backlevel firmware it fixes it
but I haven't gotten that to work either
what.. firmware?! why the hell do you need to change the
firmware -_-
still Democracy broke?
don't ask me
CRASH69, no. i spy -10 in updates.
actually, it's not the firmware, sorry... it's the driver
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=241934
CRASH69, but keep and eye out for a dbus-python update too
(currently in updates-testing), because it breaks Democracy
again.
malikeye, i am also having issues with secure networks and
NetworkManager
danm dependencies :P
malikeye, yum install wifi-radar and see if it allows you to
connect
malikeye, but i am using ndis wrapper with a bcm4318 ... so i just
thought it was me
it's back to FC6 at this point
ah
I'd have to reinstall
wimp ;-)
j/k
does that fix it for you ?
how to install ati drivers (fglrx) i have livna
repositories?
aldin, fedora 7?
I have no problem reinstalling
yes F7 KDE
aldin, they are known not working
busted
aldin, we get to wait for an update from ATi
use the radeon driver
best we got at this point
aldin, the only "workaround" is to downgrade the Xorg
version
ugh
good luck with dat
malikeye, radeon doesn't work for my device
what about compiling from source from ati.com?
radeon works here
radeon works fine for me
aldin, a) you don't compile from source
aldin, b) no.. the livna kmods are from ati.com
there is no source
radeon works for me to
but want beryl...
malikeye, d;-)
aldin, if radeon works.. beryl should
whatever.. i get module compile from ati.com drivers
compiz comes with radeon
aldin, glxinfo|grep direct
modules != driver
yes
my card isnt supported 3D with radeon driver
that's just the conduit to the driver
aldin, ok.
what's the card?
x200
yup.. same here
beryl will work with radeon
really slow though
5.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon
XPRESS 200M 5955
normally i use Xgl
but hope ATi finally does aiglx support
5.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon
XPRESS 200M 5955
i have not tested if fglrx is working with Xgl
i guess i should really do that
i use xgl and fglrx all the time... ubuntu, mandriva suse
etc
aldin, ideally we want aiglx support
with the old xorg
anyone here use NetworkManager-vpnc ?
i know hehe
|DrJef|, yes
|DrJef|, yup
i can get the cmdline vpnc to work... but NM is throwing an
error about not being able to start the vpn command
loupgaroublond, too fast for me
daMaestro, wtf am i doing wrong
|DrJef|, you need /etc/vpnc.conf
daMaestro, lovely
|DrJef|, it is a bitch that way
daMaestro, what do i need in it?
daMaestro, i challenge you to a typeoff! rawr! :P
daMaestro, do i need a config..per vpn network?
|DrJef|, i have no idea ;-)
|DrJef|, try # touch /etc/vpnc.conf
|DrJef|, i just know that nothing worked till i had something
in /etc/vpnc.conf
|DrJef|, yes... an empty file might work too
i'll check that now
daMaestro, it doesn't see /etc/vpnc/default.config?
no.. i don't know why
|DrJef|, it also seemed to work out of the box on our clean
installs of f7 in our office
loupgaroublond, this one is pretty clean
loupgaroublond, yup... just touch /etc/vpnc.conf
loupgaroublond, fresh install like 2 days ago
err |DrJef| ^
daMaestro, god thats stupid
mhm, still broken.... Democracy-0.9.5.1-8.fc7
CRASH69, yeah.. run it as root
;-)
lol... i have no idea why.. so lame.
|DrJef|, that's why NetworkManager is still not yet v1.0
networkmanager, in concept is awesome... can't wait till it
matures a little bit more
anyone knows if exist way to start xchat in english language
?
CRASH69, your mirror just doesn't have it yet. # repoquery
--repoid=updates list Democracy
Democracy-0:0.9.5.1-10.fc7.i386
do u have laptop or desktop?
loupgaroublond, fan of jim butcher novels?
NM-openvpn is nicer then.
|DrJef|, never heard of them
cause of ur card whic is same as mine
loupgaroublond, your nick suggested otherwise
is he french?
aldin, laptop.. what do you expect
"Werewolf boyfriend"
loupgaroublond, nope...
aldin, the xpress is the integrated systems chip
ivazquez, not quite, wanna take a second guess? :P
perhaps there is desktop integrated
Not really.
ha
aldin, i doubt it (but maybe)
this would be a pretty weak chipset for a desktop
i though x1600 is only on PCI-E, but i saw it on my friends
IBM laptop?!?!
our devices go over pcie
what are you talking about ?
lol.. thanks malikeye
aldin, i can do an Xgl build for you .. if you will test it and
report back?
really? hehe
i meant on PCI-Es
not xgle hehe
lspci shows PCI, AGP, PCMCIA, and PCI Express devices.
most latest laptops use pci-express
so this part doesn't work? NetworkManager makes deployment of
VPN easy. It supports Cisco .pcf files, so administrators may
simply distribute .pcf files to users.
do i have just to put "# repoquery --repoid=updates list
Democracy" on terminal?
ok, if so than it is all right
does anyone have pm-utils.athlon showing up with yum list
extras?
agp is almost dead
daMaestro, do you know anything about doing true font hinting
in fedora (alternative packages for libfreetype etc...)
AGP was never that great an idea in the first place.
i need good fonts too
ivazquez, neither was childbirth
anyone knows to fix it please?
aldin, http://avi.alkalay.net/linux/docs/font-howto/Font.html
Things like FC-AL. SATA, and PCI Express are the way to
go.
FC-AL ? that fibre channel ?
Yep.
arbitrated loop
thanks i will look it
SATA is really nice.
though parallel serial of PCI-e seems a little ugly.
Oh, and SAS as well now.
loupgaroublond, no
no, i need nice hinting... not lot of fonts hehehe
sas kinda sucks
daMaestro, you use stock fonts?
hm, pm-utils.athlon has a crapload of deps, too
yes
well, not really sucks... I guess I've been burn by the
hardware, which jades me
s/burn/burnt/
i must say i am very pleased with acpi and powernow on F7...
it works just as it should be ( iam on laptop)
Japanese characters in an out-of-the-box F7 are impressively
more beautiful than in Windows XP.
hmm. vlc multicast broke on my between fc6 and f7 ...
s/my/me/
234,sap,group=\"Jasons Streaming Video\",name=\"$(basename
${1})\"}}"
vlc "udp://@224.24.24.24:1234"
hi. I'm Jason. I'll be your whiner for tonight.
shinji-kun: good for you. I just think it's cool that other
charsets show up at all.
Anyone had any trouble with lightscribe in F7? The lightscribe
applications cannot see my drive, it worked fine in FC6.
since i unfortunately can't read any of it.. :/
I'm learning, and there is a very good online
dictionary.
oh. duh. unsupported vid format. [00000340] main packetizer
error: cannot create packetizer output (FMP4)
fc-al seems bad... rings / loops aren't good
uuh, why not?
single point of failure
not more so than others
well, in hub style, there wouldn't be a single point of
failure
nothing is relying on the other to communicate
I take it you think token ring networks aren't reliable.
I do
well, token-ring wasn't really reliable in practice.
they work, but they are old skool
hm.
I used to use token, it sucked
better than thin-coax ethernet tho.
"The Token Ring network was originally developed by IBM in the
1970s. It is still IBM's primary local-area network (LAN)
technology." I sure hope not
the whole concept of one token being tossed around seems
dumb, to mee
it is not
mailkeye works for IBM and knows these things
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/ito_doc/tokenrng.htm
how'd you know ?
but they probably want their customers to by ethernet from them
instead of network from ibm.
token is dead
you pay a premium to be on token
in otherwords "switch for your own good"
that's putting it mildly
does anyone know anything about the Linux Professional
Institute?
I can't find any information about exams on their website
o_O
LPI tests are good first tests
worth getting
I'd take the RH exams but I haven't the funding
exactly
yes, I need to have certification to apply for a job next
year; LPI sounds good.
But... I can get info /on/ the exams, just not how much they
cost or how I take them.
ferrum, some of dude of last night said thanks
Would your employer perhaps be willing to pay at least most of
the burden of an RHCT/RHCE exam series?
that means they're probably on the "if you have to ask you
can't afford it" pricing plan?
uthat means they're probably on the "if you have to ask you
can't afford it" pricing plan?/u
XFCE got fixed by removing the i386 packages
Damn yum
codergeek42, it's a university position, so unlikely
AndyCap, I hope not ;/
Dang.
Earlier this year, the LPI announced a price hike that
established a global "benchmark'' exam price of 150 US
dollars
Hey, how to I add the --exclude in yum permanantly?
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Yep I know that but thanks anyway I have xine and extras for mp3 etc installed on this one but what I want to