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try boot option noapci

sure, i appreciate that... its just that fedora correctly identified my installation as v. 5 and seemed to upgrade very smoothly, except for this one thing.

how did you install ndis?

yum install ndiswrapper

openbysource, http://paste.biz/paste-2403.html

Sonar_Guy, was that directed to me?

yes

http://fedoramobile.org/wireless
there are 2 howtos there that may pertain to you

u0m3, is the sound card detected ?

openbysource, yes

so no sound coming out of it ?

u0m3, is it a soundblaster card, thouogh

openbysource, no sound out of speakers...

?

try to change the volume controls and check if there is something that is muted

Arfdee, no.. don't think so... It is a conexant wakiki on ICH7

thanks mate

openbysource, I tried that... I even rebuilded alsa-driver, alsa-lib, alsa-oss, alsa-utils from sources

u0m3, i think you were not supposed to that because it might have worked if you tried enabling/disabling the internal modem from within the bios. (i think so)

I would file a bug report at bugzilla.redhat.com and provide as much information a possible.

u0m3, brb.

Sonar_Guy, it's a common error according to google

not your exact message, there is no bug for it yet.

yeah, there is, i didn't type it verbatim
sorry
i appended the model portion
Kernel panic - not syncing: Out of memory and no killable processes

Hello

try appending this to your kernel boot line acpi=off

yeah, i told my friend to try that
we'll see in a few hours
he is still at work

that seems to be a common issue.

i was wondering if you knew for sure anything else

shutdown button only make my box halted ,but not poweroff ,any ideas ?

not yet still looking

i am a using a fedora box as a router... how do i forward all the traffic from a specific port to a specific ip?

you know if this is an nforce4 chipset or not?

i know it's several years old, so i wouldn't think so?

have him try the acpi=off that may help.
you may get a better response in #iptables

thanks!

np

thanks Sonar_Guy that's what i emailed him earlier
so we will see

ok

-j DNAT --to-destination ip

lol and out of the blue comes kanarip!! hehe

you da man! thanks a lot

kanarip rocks "Porn Star Hard" lol

anyone customized ls_colors on XFCE Terminal ??
Is there an XFCE channel ?

Hi! i need to install KDE on my new FC7
my iso seems to be problematic while installing kde
what should i give with yum to install kde

read the man yum ?

yum groupinstall 'KDE (K Desktop Environment)' then as Anvil said man yum.
uyum groupinstall 'KDE (K Desktop Environment)' then as Anvil said man yum./u

smart package manager
is the best hosting one
allows you to see exacly wich package to install + dependencies

ConnectingPPL, i am very happy with yum in F7

me 2
but i like the other one more
:P
i am using suse at the moment
well plus one fc6 and one mandriva

i am a redhat/centos/fedora house

i just install centOS server hosting to make some tests
i am learning
i'm just a curious noob

bout time you got to work you slacker! hehe

i have been here

lol

for 25 minutes anyway

Only one more day of work for me. hehe
Then I become a true banker.

oooh.

today is friday for me
i have to go help my mom setup tear down this weekend at the flea market

ah ok, yeah tomorrow is my final working day, then I be come unemployed.
or should I say retired.

Say unemployed, retired sounds so useless

are the updates broken? Error: Missing Dependency: mkinitrd = 6.0.9-7.1 is needed by package kernel

Sonar_Guy, yeah we know how long you will stay retired

lol
Just till I get bored right?

something like that

howdy all, can anyone point me to a solution to getting fc7 running under virtual pc 2007?

Anyone know where I am supposed to customise ls_colors ?
anyone ?

~/.bash_profile ?

areee wah

that would be my guess too, except I imagine that the first thing .bash_profile would do is to call the generics in /etc (bashrc, profile, etc) in which case they set the ls_colors, so I need to the modify (over-write) those values
so, then I guess I make a local ls_colors, and re-source ?

Hi all

desktop effects .. does that mean that fedora 7 comes with xgl?

no. comes with compiz though

and aiglx

where it says "workspaces on a cube:
what does that mean?

man.. try it.. or images.google for "compiz cube"

Anyone know what happend to the portmap package in FC7? What replaced it?

how do I try it?

HP WLAN 54g W450
that's my wireless card
can i get it working without ndiswrapper?

ctrl+alt and left mouse button, and drag it

wow, its really slow on this system
ati 9200

Ok , so has rpcbind totally replaced portmap in FC7?

do most people use yum or apt?

fedora users yum..

I find Yum slower but better.

Very few people use apt-rpm with Fedora.

NZheretic - yes

http://www.fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=157610&highlight=rpcbind
Ok, I will probably have to manually set it up for LTSP.

interesting
I'd have to do a strings on rpcbind - I'll bet there's portmap code in there

is it just me, or is mkinitrd holding up a kernel upgrade?

NZheretic - strings /sbin/rpcbind | grep portmap

It is.

kk

guys, what a lot of mutex locks show up as iowait?

Yes rpcbind does the same job, in FC6 both worked in parallel. I will have to file a bugzilla entry for the ltspadmin package to get it updated.
After spending an afternoon with FC7, IMHO it was pushed out the door a month too soon.

so.. what's up with the updatez?

I had some major issues with Gnome, switched to XFCE (was planning to anyway)
but otherwise I find F7 to be pretty sweet

I have had to pull kernel and mkinitrd packages from koji ( http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/ ) to deal with kernel errors.
If the Fedora team want regular timely releases then they should consider forking from rawhide at least two months before release.

hehe
so did i

you said forking !

That won't happen when attempting to placate users clamoring for the latest FF/OOo/TB/Gnome/KDE/etc
Those packages don't adhere to the same release cycle. Inconsiderate bastards, all.
(or attempting to write stability, not bleeding-edge)

good morning all
why every time that I make "yum update", one connection to 209.132.176.220 is open ?

OrgName: Red Hat, Inc.

nslookup 209.132.176.220

Ok, maybe it is time for Fedora to consider parallel deployment. Stable packages in the default location and unstable bleeding edge deployed under /opt/${project}/

What will that accomplish?

I dunno. I think Fedora does a good job of giving users what they ask for.. (not necessarily what they want)

Anyone know what the gui for tor is called? It's on the tip of my tongue but I can't remember it...

but others also like 193.28.235.40 and 130.206.1.5 ... I think that one unique repository connection was enough, not ? ... sounds tracing connection ...

If I had to make a wild guess, I'd say the initial was to the mirrorlist, and the rest are mirrors. :P

Vidalia, that's what I was after...

oh ok

Hrm. Smells like a trademark violation.

"trademark violation" ?

Development could then continue in parallel, with users having the option at GDM login to default to stable or bleading edge ( by setting PATHs and HOME ).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vidalia_onion

ok

why the nick change?

evil_steve, :P
evil_steve, you saw the new updated f7 kernel ? that kernel also didn't helped in getting iwl3945 driver working for me. i just filed a bug report

ah, that would be the one that I just got a mail about

I did not like F7, first time that RedHat release one version so full problems and bugs. Bad guidelines ?

RedHat did not release F7

pm me your email host adress and I'll send you the instructions from the gnome NM team in getting it working

evil_steve, via iwl3945 ?

ys

cool

they've found the problem and requested an updated package without response

so it's the bug with NM ?

Blinny, who makes ?

FedoraProject

ok

i hope the upstream fix finds its way to f7 asap

always think that FedoraProject .. one section companie RedHat

I'm using it and have 0 problems
maybe it's just you

Long ago, yes. Not now.

sent

its not .. its a community driven entity .. sponsored by red hat .. but it is _not_ red hat

no, it's the way the iwl drivers does it's scanning

aroo, no, many are getting problems
not stable like Fc6, in my opinion

then use 6

you know, fc6 was not without problems either
when it was released there was a problem that kept non-GPLed modules from being loaded by the kernel IIRC

anyone now an option to make "dd" interactive

Lankke, are you asking front-end ?

no... i just want some running stats as i format my hard drive

oeh

at the moment i can't tell how much progress has been made

ok

Lankke, you can send it a usr signal, or, better, use dd_rescue instead.

you can watch vmstat 1

vmstat 1?
i've never heard of it

try

im using the rescue prompt with the installation cd

you can also try this;
$ dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/null count=10MB & pid=$!
$ kill -s INFO $pid; wait $pid
everytime you give the "kill -s

ok cool... i'll give it a go
thanks

it will give you an update

note that that example is directly from the info page for dd

Sonar_Guy, you there?
he tried acpi=off, same problem
kernel panic

FC6 had its teething problems at the start, FC7 however seems to more than FC6 release.

thanks wolsni... i did check the info page out.. however i still find it difficult to find the right information
I'm by no means an amatuer but some of these man pages are really confusing
It's working now though... great

Which ones?

kiwi???

is kflickr the best or is there better?

almost all of them. I have done pretty well configuring linux host for both my laptop and desktop but sometimes the instructions are a bit too much

Arfdee - rephrase your question please

for flickr and linux

heh

Aerfdee, what is your question ??

what is the best flickr program for linux?

what do you need a program for, flickr is web based ?

PinTail_b, they have many upload apps

yep, BUT you can also upload via your browser
why bother with a seperate app

PinTail_b, it's obvious you are not familiar with one, otherwise you wouldn't have asked

i believe there's a digikam plugin for flickr

so thanks anyway
PinTail_b, i dunno, because i don't want to individually upload EACH FILE like the web interface requires?
moving on
wolsni, what does that do?

a good resource for finding applications is www.gnomefiles.org (assumming you use gnome)

dunno, i imagine it lets you upload pictures from digikam

Ah, OK.
I agree that's a bit lame

there are a couple of flickr upload apps for fedora
just do a "yum search flikr"
s/flikr/flickr/

hello?

hi friends
please help
hp ze4400

well, hello, come on in, the water's fine

after upgrade to f7
Kernel panic - not syncing: Out of memory and no killable processes

dejavu

evil_steve, that updated network manager too doesn't work. http://rafb.net/p/1MIIrh41.html

evil_steve, ?

heh
'get a better card'

do you have a gnome bugzilla account?

are their specific packages for ati drivers under fedora?

evil_steve, no.

do they apply to series like radeon, or could i find packages for my specific card?

evil_steve, why dejavu?

meta4ical553 - there are two versions: fglrx (closed source) and the XOrg version

is the bugzilla for fedora www.fedora.info?

fglrx is not available for Fedora 7 yet

is this the main one? http://www.fedora.info/bugzilla/

it is if you use livna's repository.

http://bugzilla.redhat.com/

i want to report one for main fedora, as in, after upgrade to f7 it doesn't boot
thanks ivazquez

how can i avoid the "error missing dependency" when i try to update yum ? is there a way i can get it to install all the needed depedencies ?

can you please help me(actually for my friend's laptop)

so their's nothing made from the official ati drivers?

Missing Dependency: mkinitrd = 6.0.9-7.1 is needed by package kernel

not yet, as far as I know

BuRneR`, if you use pup, you can just uncheck the kernel package and update everything else, then wait for them to issue a non-broken update

something else

ivazquez, he has an hp ze4400

ok thank you

i installed the new kernel a few minutes ago

BuRneR`, that's what i did you're welcome

I'm essentially asking if the official drivers outperform these free drivers you're talking about?

is the problem i686 only?

can you email me the entire log output and I'll update the bug

and on boot after upgrade from f4 to f7, gets Kernel panic - not syncing: Out of memory and no killable processes

wolsni, might be

near udev

yes, they do

I'd really like to be able to run a efw 3d games, nothing too demanding

along with kernel info, iwl version, etc

evil_steve, who are you speaking to?

but they are not available yet for F7

hm

is showing people about the livna repo not allowed in here? heh

there are other people having issues, we share the load and help everyone.

I have a sapphire radeon x1550 and was told in #linux that only the official drivers would be able to run 3d games well
They basically said using anything else would get me 10fps

it's allowed

ok

evil_steve, i was just asking if you were asking me that question

back

I can't imagine that it would be so slow, but the fglrx drivers are much better, even if they are closed.. In fact I can't get the 'free' drivers to load on my X1300

hmm just need to find out if livna has the drivers yet heh

wait I'm confused, i thought we were talkign about the free drivers vs atis official drivers in terms of performance?

spikeb - are you implying that fglrx is available in livna ?

oh are you saying the "Free" drivers as in atis official drivers wouldn't load?

fglrx is in livna testing but its not for the current kernel (the one that released yesterday) and it still doesn't work with the current xorg

PinTail_b, they usually provide it.
meta4ical553, the driver's not quite ready, heh

I know, but it is not yet available

But fglrx is borken on F7's Xorg.

ahh ok

ATI has not fixed it yet.

course not.

i may try the downgrading of the xorg server work around

meta4ical553, yes, the closed drivers will provide much better performance

no 'free' is the XOrg version, fglrx is the closed source (non-'free')

ATI is a royal pain, and AMD's not done much to improve that situation.

agreed, I won't buy another ATI card, ever. nVidia has won that battle

unfortunately i don't get a choice in the laptops/desktops given to me at work

did you say your iwl3945 works A-OK with networkmanager, or do you do it manually?

as soon as intel's onboard stuff can play a couple games that i like at reasonable framerate/graphics ratio, im not buying another video card, period.

evil_steve, works great with networkManager

hrm
interestingk

Well, nVidia's chipsets are showing up on a lot of MOBOs and they come with pretty good graphics

but I'm just using WEP at home and haven't tried connecting to any WPA or public networks

can you do me a favour, can you pm me the results of "rpm -q NetworkManager ; rpm -qa | grep iwl"

nvidia and flash are teh last two remenants of proprietary software on my systems. can't wait to be rid of them

I'm trying to get as much information as possible for the networkmanager team to get this fixed

NetworkManager-0.6.5-3.fc7
iwlwifi-firmware-2.14.3-2

also the result of lspci | grep 3945

evil_steve, what isn't working for you?

ta
it crashes
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=435036

evil_steve, kernel-2.6.21-1.3228.fc7

oh207, f7 released a new kernel?
bitchkat, is that off atrpms or what?

i had some problems the other day where iwl3945 was spewing the same crap out to the console continuously. It was sucking up so much CPU that my mouse would lag by 30 seconds or so

Anyone know why Fedora switched from xchat to xchat-gnome as the default IRC client?

Arfdee, no there was a crapload of updates from the fedora repos last night -- kernel, openoffice, evolution

it did?
my install didnt have an IRC client installed heh

oic

chmac, no

chmac, i have both installed but don't really like the UI of xchat-gnome

Yeah, I'm just discovering that xchat-gnome is a little over simplified
But I guess that probably makes a better default for the average user

isn't there some irq option you can pass to kernel on boot that deals with locks caused by irq issues?

chmac, i mean, no, it's not. you don't need xchat-gnome

after upgrade from f4 to f7, gets Kernel panic - not syncing: Out of memory and no killable processes

pidgin not good enough ?

near udev loading

You use pidgin for IRC? I know it can do it, but it is any good?

you went from F4 to F7?
wow

It works.

no it isn't good at it at all
heh

I am using it now
works fine

i didn't, my friend in the third world did
that's the problem we are having on boot

evil_steve, i have noticed that when I'm using wireless on F7 (doesn't matter if its iwl3945 or ipw3945) that the system hangs when trying to shutdown. I have to unplug and remove the battery

adding channels is much easier than any other IRC client I have used

chmac, do you have any ideas?

PinTail_b / ivazquez: Can either of you send me a screenshot? I'm curious to know what it looks like (and too lazy to try it!)

err
ivazquez, do you have any ideas?

wow

lol, I was going to say, think you've got the wrong person!

I'll dump a URL in a second

how come the init command doesn't exist?

You're probably not root correctly. Do 'su -'

Umm, what's the name of the screenshotstool ?

whats the difference between su and su -?

screenshot stool
screenshots tool

the '-' brings in the environment variables. 'man su' will help you on this

the - gives you a complete environment

quik_, su - is more like logging in as root (runs roots .profile)

"su -" gets you root's environment as well as permissions

If only I had four answers to all my questions here (:

what's the screenshot tool called ?

ah right

I use 'gnome-screenshot'

there's more than one

http://img175.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotfedorajp7.png

PinTail_b, i prefer ksnapshot over the default one because it has more options like taking a snapshot of a window

ivazquez, Sweet, thanks

hi, if I do the live cd install, I can still get everything later...right? I mean versus doing a full internet installation

you always can install more later

ati-fglrx-config-display says no command found
have I missed something in the install process?

Even an Internet install doesn't have everything.

is there a quick way to find the config for the stock 2.6.20 kernel in fc6?

/usr/sbin/fglrx-config-display

/boot/config*

cat /boot/config-2.6.20-....

bitchkat, can you give me the url to the web directory of the updates?
so i can give the url to someone? like the kernel and the kernel-devel one

Arfdee, just run "yum update"

if it doesn't exist something is missing, correct?

bitchkat, uhhh

Of what?

or "yum install yum-utils; yumdownloader --url kernel"

bitchkat, my internet is probably slower than dialup, and the person getting this is at work and that's the only place they can get it at a decent speed

iirc , the command is provided by kmod-fglrx package

doh. thanks

http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/7/i386/os/Fedora/ does not work

fedora 7 uses a different tree

i need more coffee. i was installing the srpm and make oldconfig. hahaha

Arfdee, http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/publiclist/Fedora/7/

Arfdee, thanks!

'nothing to do' when I yum install kmod-fglrx

F7?

ure using Fedora 7 ?

Arfdee, then look in /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates.repos for the mirrorlist

Yes
I just grabbed it tonight actually

fglrx doesn't work with F7.

Arfdee, and its entirely possible that the updates have not propagated to all the mirrors

bitchkat, thanks for nothing

Expect a fix whenever ATI feels like it.

ivazquez, Pidgin looks pretty nice for IRC

bitchkat, a lot of those files use variables
thanks spikeb

Arfdee, you bet

couldnt you roll the kernel back in f7 to get it working?

I'll have to check it out

It is.

no fglrx package for F7 yet .. need to wait for ATI to release their new driver .. F7's Xorg is "too new" for the driver

err. roll xorg back a version then?

Arfdee, replace $releasever with 7 and $basearch with i386 if thats what you are running

thankfully, ati releases a new driver every month, so it's not too long of a wait
assumming they actually fix the problem
(which is rather rare)

Fascists

Arfdee, and I have no idea what mirror happened to be selected last night when I ran yum update

i am just trying to get a link to the new rpm for kernel and kernel-devel

look in the yum log

hi.. anyone have any experience with DPT raid V cards (adaptec 3400s)

PinTail_b, the yum log doesn't list where it installed/updated rpms from

you already were told about yumdownloader --url

JohnMahowald, you were already told about my Bandwidth host and the fact that this is for someone else

Sorry, my bad, I am sure I have seen it logged at some point though

im trying to load these drivers to get these raid array online but i keep getting an error about missing libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2.. Any pointers would be greatfully accepted.

how about browse a mirror manually?

JohnMahowald, how about that's what i've tried to do?

when its released.. will it be much better performance?

yum-utils is a very small package fwiw

its the same as its always been. but i guess your google is broken

greenfish, what is "it?"

what's the problem you're having finding it?

justfuckinggoogleit.com

JohnMahowald, he doesn't want to replace $releasever with 7 and $basearch with i386 (or appropriate). He wants someone to give him a URL with them already substituted

snarkster, you need one of the compat-libstdc++ packages installed

bitchkat, or
as i said not 5 minutes ago
when i PASTED the url that that produces, it says not found

only ATi can answer that .. its their driver ..

plus 2 MB or so repodata

Arfdee, what url?

you're welcome to scroll up

*hint* f7 doesnt have core anymore

spikeb oh allright duh.. thank you.

snarkster, you're welcome

greenfish, *hint* nothing to do with what i did

http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?repo=updates-released-f7&arch=i386

fuck you. /ignore

If it was an upgrade to F7 you do have to be sure the old repositories are disabled.

Arfdee, i doubt thats the URL you actually tried

bitchkat, have faith, my son

mh can someone paste the output of cat /etc/rpm/platform && rpm --showrc | egrep 'optflags(.*):' ... i think i've messed up my configuration

Arbiter, athlon-redhat-linux
-O2 -g -march=athlon

mh
thanks

I'm ia32e-redhat and -O2 -g

need to know the standard profile used by i386 buildsystem

Shalom everyone ! I want to buy a PCI serial card. Is there anything I can check to make sure Its compatible with Linux ?

in order to build 100% i386 fc7 compatible rpm packages

If its compatible with DOS, does it mean It will be with Linux too ?

Arfdee, i'm probably too old and don't have the correct genitals to be your son

yay! i got it
thanks sir

install mock, use it and build in a chroot

yay, thanks

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/HCL

bummer. I only managed a ~5hr uptime on the new 3228 kernel before freezing a minute ago. still need the nohz=off boot option.

i want to build updated kde packages (for 3.5.7) and publish them in a 3rd party repo... nobody is going to upload them in fedora-updates I see
altought fedora seems a gnome-centric distro :P

you are aware of http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE ?

yup

time for work

but i'm not a contributor

but you can be

does it seem strange to anyone else that the stock fc6 2.6.20 kernel is cmpiled without Full NAT turned on?

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join

ooooh. no. whoa. nice new iptables targets with that one

still doesnt work
im guessing i have to make a link

hey, anyone know that kernel option in case of irq problems?
noirq or something

sweet, gnash with youtube support is out

spikeb, that's a gnome app?

Arfdee, it's a browser plugin for flash, has a gtk standalone player and i believe a qt standalone player as well

what is the name of that room thermometer thingy that can connect to the pc for alerts/monitoring of room temp? any1 know?

oh207, an alternative to flash player
what's the point?

Arfdee, free software flash playing.

is that the only diff?

Arfdee, "only" )

well hopefully it'll run better too heh

Arfdee, how about 64 bit support?

the closed flash is not available for ppc either

ah ok
oic

Arfdee, and even that was not the case its possible to ship it with fedora.

oh right

Arfdee, and its free software that can be properly supported with should be more than enough reason )

Is there a good virtual machine program for fedora ?

heck yeah che

phiras, virt-manager

sure. xen is almost built in now. and vmware server works terrific

phiras, its a frontend to xen and qemu/kvm

personally, i think vmware-server is a little easier to manage. but xen is teh new hawtness

phiras, makes it pretty easy to setup vms with only free software involved
phiras, with qemu you can even emulate other architectures

kvm is teh newer hotness

phiras, like having a 64bit os virtualized on a 32bit machine
phiras, other arches are supported aswell of course.

I have xen installed on my machine
Is it good ?

phiras, boot the xen kernel run virt-manager and off you go

yeah. it doesnt really work in my environment though. i need live migrations more than anything else

virt-manager is the xen-GUI ?

phiras, if your hardware supports virtualisation you can even virtualize operating systems with xen that do not support xen at all
phiras, xen and qemu/kvm yes

ok

phiras, though you can also handle it with shell only.
phiras, man xm

ok
where can I find the 'gemu' ?

phiras, yum install qemu

i have a quick question

No Match for argument: gemu

my friend ran yum update on f7 and it gives header errors

s/g/q

qemu

can he do the equivalent of yum update --download only?

hello. when I type "at -t 200706141615" I obtain "at: invalid option: -- t" followed by usage information which indicates that -t is allowed (as does the manpage). is this a bug in fedora ?

caroch, lets check if theres a bug in the manpage or if you interpret it wrongly

I am referring to "at [-V] [-q queue] [-f file] [-mldbv] -t time_arg"

hey everyone
i have a question

well, the man page looks pretty unambiguous on that one

when i did a fresh reinstall of fedora last night, everything was going great until after i put in my logon information in, and now just freezes there everytime

wolsni, was that in reference to me?

f7 or fc6, and what version of at

greenfish, f7, at-3.1.10-11.fc7

no

http://rafb.net/p/XnAjiV95.html whats wrong? :/

Shankysv87 - Are you booting into a graphical environment like gnome ?

im fc6 with 3.1.8, can anyone on f7 confirm

yes
wb ferrum

hallo

header errors?

greenfish, i am on rawhide. confirmed.

yum clean metadata

wb ferrum ?

should be filed as a bug then

Shankysv87, try logging in from console (Ctrl-Alt-F1) and run "killall esd"

what's that ?

PinTail_b, "welcome back"

ok, I will file it

JohnMahowald, thanks

Ah

caroch, thanks.

I assume you mean metadata errors.

sorry, it said
file context error

Darkon ok

its fixed upstream but the version in rawhide still has the buggy cut manpage

that or use XFCE, it doesn't suffer from that issue

cut [OPTION]... [DATEI]...
implies everything is optional

XFCE?

yep

what is that?

Like Gnome, or KDE except not as much bloat

It's a desktop environment that's designed to be lightweight.

a rockin' desktop enviornment, like gnome's little brother these days.

Shanky... - You using rhgb ?

speaking of rhgb, any way to change anything about it?

it's open source
of course

what do you mean ?

sorry i might have missed the answer, but what is that grub option?
pci=noirq ?

you mean configure

JohnMahowald, i deserved that answer i suppose
PinTail_b, yeah

if you mean is it themeable, no. you can replace a couple images I believe.

ahh

oh and translate it

bout the only thing i wanted to do was replace the clearlooks progressbar with a bluecurve one heh

PinTail_b, what is rhgb?

RedHat Graphical Boot

yes

is it going to be replaced?

that would be rgb

no, why would it be replaced?

surely you mean Red Hat Graphical Boot?

dwmw2, rhgb.

really hairy gorilla butt

_

ferrum, because it's not needed, and can't do half the things usplash/splashy can.

I've never used it; I always preferred text.

i can get past the bootloader, i get to the point were i can log in.. but when i do put in my information, it freezes up and goes to a permanent state where my screen goes to sleep and keyboard is unresponsive

Feel free to adapt their splashy package for Fedora and submit it for review.

that'd be great. usplash also looks nice.
not really necessary for our intended audience, however..

i think i'm actually going to try another thing where i build my own system. LFS
later

have fun, we'll see in 3 weeks when you give up after missing that one key step, but not realising it until to late
s/to/too

heh LFS is fun

sure, I've done it myself
but, it can be pretty damn frustrating

yes it can

particularly, as I said, if yo happen to skip something important without noticing

heh

I have xenman and I want to boot a windows on my Vmachine , how ?

PinTail_b, sounds like the pain of experience.

hey all...just enabled my desktop effects after not using them for a while...I have no window borders now. I haven't done anything with any of these packages. Is this common for this to happen? I know that it did work before just fine.

I have one successfull LFS distro, after four attempts

is it possible to do something like yum update --downloadonly?

man yum

what are you trying to accomplish?

ferrum, have YOU manned yum?

you have hardware virt?

because i have, and i don't see that there, so i was wondering if there's another way

what is this !

JohnMahowald, my friend is getting header and rpm errors while at work, and that's the only fast internet connection within a few hundred miles so he just wanted to get the rpms and i could diagnose when he returned

dammit ndiswrapper, stop dying on me

http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/XenFaq
have them record the exact yum output

bbl

also, http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Tools/Xen

mkinitrd = 6.0.9-7.1 is needed by package kernel" has been widely discussed. Can someone point me to a solution?

Xen can't run windows !!!

Xen can run windows. I forgot what's required, though.
google

the wiki hosting page I linked to describes the hardware required

exclude the kernel from updates.

yum update --exclude=kernel*
jimw, solution is to wait for mkinitrd 6.0.9-7.1 to find its way to the mirrors.

\*

Anvil, ?

--exclude=kernel\*

not necessary. What I gave works.

what you gave could fail on some system. Depending of the content of the local directory.

(the likelihood of it not working is rather slim, but I see your point )

unspecializing special chars to give them to programs is a good habit to get.

its good practice to use \*, some time it will fail, with uncertain outcome

jimw, yum --enable updates-testing update mkinitrd ; yum update

kind of odd that stuff is hitting updates with deps still in updates-testing

:s;odd;crappy

odd is less likely to insult fallible humans

anybody getting this error when they try and update with yum in FC7?? : Error: Missing Dependency: mkinitrd = 6.0.9-7.1 is needed by package kernel

...oh for goodness sake. If it isn't one thing, then it is another. Right... anyone good with named/BIND?

Goodness.

fingaz, yum update --exclude=kernel\*

Yes. You can yum update --exclude=kernel\*
What's your question?

Skiriki - I know it pretty well

I'm currently trying to figure out where I'm doing wrong; my secondary name server tells me domain/IN: refresh: non-authoritative answer from master
And I know that I screwed up earlier -- when I assumed that I could happily just drag the named.conf of my old server to the new one along with domain infos and have it magically working...

You've lost me there, but, explain your problem

PinTail_b -- mind if I PM you so I won't spam the whole channel with stuff..?

has anyone use pam_ldap to authenticate to an ldap server? I just want pam to authenticate the user, create a home directory if it doesn't exist and give them a uid and gid. I don't want to use nss as that means changes to my server which I am no willing to do. i'm sure pam should be able to create a uid and gid on the fly so that's all i'm looking for

the channel might want to learn

So the real issue is that you upgraded your server, and now your unchanged zones don't propagate to your secondary?

Yes; plus, I think that the problem is that somehow that earlier screw-up allowed the domains to expire somehow..?

Well, when you stop guessing, and start debugging, I might be able to help
Unfortunately, I have to go
bye

Ah, see you

It doesn't look like the current postfix package has mysql support. Is there a postfix-mysql package, I can't find one

Reset the serial and expire values. I've used a format of YYYYMMDD{REVISION} for serial that has worked well
For example, 2007061401

what kind of support?

support for mysql as a backend

I did it for my main domain, and I'm still not getting it updated.
Wait -- I did it for the serial. Hmm.

Did you 'service named restart' -- and confirm that you changed both serial and expire (Set expire to 3600000)
Did you change your zone files _at all_ ?

Does Linux (FC7) Support the 8 series Nvidia Cards?

I'm setting serial to 2007061402 and expire is that already. And I ported the zone files 'as is' from the old server.

I didn't know it could, you have a link describing this feature?

postfix can use mysql as a backend database for holding of things like virtual domains etc etc etc.
its mentioned on postfix's site

And when I do 'tail -100 /var/log/messages' I do not see any message about it having loaded the file.

Can you rafb.net/paste your SOA section ?

Moment.

That usually means you have a formatting issue.

http://rafb.net/p/sr14BT43.html
Want me to paste my named.conf too?

bummer. the dbus-python in updates-testing breaks Democracy Player again. had to revert.

Can you paste the named.conf from the master and the slave?
to rafb.net/paste please

Sure. I'll do master-slave order.

Bet.

http://rafb.net/p/mdIo1S75.html
If you need a sample of log whines, I can post that too...

whats a good calender program?

And this is only for this one domain, or for all domains?

All.

Is SLI supported in FC7

ilmatar.net is the main domain, FYI. It is registered in a different place than other .org and .net domains. .fi domains still seem to work, but mostly because FICORA hasn't caught up yet.

When you restart the nameserver, you say it doesn't say anything about loading the zones on the master?

Nope. Only about localhost.
Want me to paste..?

What did you upgrade from/to, and where are your zone files located?

Domain files are in /var/named/chroot/var/named/ and I moved from FC4 to F7.

IE, confirm that they're /var/named

(And the files were under same dir in FC4 as well.)

Are there symbolic links in /var/named/* to /var/named/chroot/var/named/ ?

Hmmm! Very good question. I have to check!
There are for localdomain etc, but not for my domains.

Put them in for your domains and restart named

...doh.

Including the .arpa if you authoritatively provide reverse as well

No; reverse, alas, isn't mine to control.

Alas!
...

I tested with my main domain, no worky. Found a typo or something from the confs?

Confirm that the zones are loading when you start named

http://rafb.net/p/2D1K4c54.html

Ok now it's weird.
paste ls -al /var/named and /var/named/chroot/var/named

is it possible to make a live USB stick of fedora 7?

yes

http://rafb.net/p/9o0TgP81.html

yeah
2gb usb stick would be good

Fix your permissions in /var/named/chroot/var/named
:s;permissions;ownership
should be root:named

Ahah! Let's see...

anyone know whats up with beryl and the desktop selectors on the menu bar? i only have one desktop because it shows four of those spaces for each 1 desktop i have so if i have four i have sixteen of those things lined up across my menu bar. anyone know about this?

Woah. You've got motogp.fi ? Awesome.
Have you restarted X since turning on desktop effects?
It gets by with 'faking' 1 desktop into 4 -- that's how it does the cool cube effect

Still getting the same result, Blinny.

ohh

I don't think that's the problem though, or some of them would work

Yeah.

i c
nice, no i havent rebooted yet, not finished configuring and setting everything up in this new install.

Let's try something. Put a random 'FUNFUNFUN' in named.conf and see if it gives you a syntax error when restarting

lol

After enabling desktop effects you need to restart Xwindows

gotcha, will do that.

Okeydoke.

Because something is definitely not kosher.

Hi there

Fascinating.

If the FUNFUNFUN doesn't make a syntax error, check your /etc/sysconfig/named and see if there is a '-c someotherconfigfile.conf' in there

I didn't get an error.

I am new with Fedora 7 and I would like to know how to install FlashPlayer and how to log as root?

Check what named_conf is in /etc/init.d/named after that /etc/sysconfig/named check

:'(

Hmmm ... /etc/sysconfig/named doesn't seem to have any extra confs.

Ok

so,anyone?

I haven't used F7 yet, however fedorafaq.org or fedorasolved.org might help.
fedorafaq.org speaks to flash in FC6

ok thanks
how to log as root?
do you know?

BadRobot, http://fedorasolved.org/post-install-solutions/root/

For some reason, named is not reading your named.conf -- I would suggest 'updatedb && locate named |grep conf' -- or, as I said earlier, looking in /etc/init.d/named for named_conf variable, though it's probably pulling it from /etc/sysconfig/named unless those variables are empty
:s;unless;if
wait
no
:s;if;unless

Yea, Blinny, sec.
(...sorry about that, a friend of mine busted in and I had to explain that this is not the best moment to come and explain her plans about running a B5 campaign, no matter how fun gaming is...)

Yeah, we didn't need to know that.

Free TMI
http://rafb.net/p/M4JP0588.html

Yeah, that's correct.

i am trying to setup a syslog server, and i need for each remote host to have their owne file/. anyone know how i should set this up??

Mind - I do not have /etc/named.caching-nameserver.conf there -- it is /etc/named.caching-nameserver.conf-old as I moved it away after noticing it hosing up stuff..?

And /etc/sysconfig/named does not have anything like OPTIONS = '-c someotherfile.conf' ?

No options like that.

what about updatedb && locate named |grep conf

uops, sorry

Massive spammage. Want me to pastebin?

Sure

...wait, whazzat...

take a look at syslog-ng to replace syslog, it's a package available on fedora. Allows a lot more control over that sort of thing.

http://rafb.net/p/wb5Jwv78.html

And you're changing /etc/named.conf with the 'funfunfun' yes?

Yeah.. WAIT... what's THAT...

There is a /var/named/etc/named.conf too

ok - looks like the default postfix rpm does not have mysql support built in for any fedora release.

...groan.
Yes. I noticed that one.

ok thanks

Is /etc/named.conf linked to /var/named/etc/chroot ?
er, chroot/etc ?

AHAH!

should be /var/named/chroot/etc/named.conf

you'll still have to configure each yourself though, it won't make up file name based on the source

ok i will look into it

I have to go, but I'll be back in 1/2 hour.

No prob, I think I'm now getting somewhere.

Good. (:

Ta-dah.
Everything works.
Thanks, Blinny.

hi....i got a question?
is there a command word such as search to find a document

Try 'locate filename'

thanks Skiriki

I'm having problems with revisor. I'm attempting to build a livecd from the dvd. the conf file have been setup to point the baseurl to the mounted DVD. Went through the dep check and the status message says "Downloading Packages". It's been that way for the last 2 hours, yet it's not supposed to get the rpms from the net. log file just indicates that's it's displaying progress bar. ideas?

command not found

"command not found?" A: Run the command AS ROOT after switching users with "su --login" or "su -" in order to get root's command PATH so the command WILL be found; don't run "su" by itself. If it's still not found, then either it's not installed in a standard path location (echo $PATH), is not executable (chmod a+x), is in your current dir (./runme), or you've spelled it incorrectly.

I think the DVD is missing at least a couple needed packages
possibly it's stuck on dep resolution because they're missing

oh. really! hmm. the log file isn't showing anything. I'm at the revisor site downloading the updated version. I think I should maybe check the repo pointing to the mounted DVD and the Fedora updates. what do you think?

how to send ctrl+alt+f1 to xen ??

I seem to recall in fc6 xen you had to bring up the xen console and then use something like sendkey??

the serial console??

hi, the live cd won't display my video mode, so back to http install. Do I set the directory to where all the .rpm packages are? Never done this is fedora

not to .rpm packages are but to something that has repodata/ folder

no, there is a Xen "monitor" console, I seem to recall one can switch between three xen console screens
wait..

the os/ directory. the one with the repodata dir in it.

I need to scram; thanks for all the help, folks, again.

fedora/releases/7/Fedora/i386/os/repodata/ that look right?

one level up

fedora/releases/7/Fedora/i386/os/

okay, thanks

please forgive me, I think I might have been thinking of qemu. sorry. it's the heat and humidity here. :-(

I am using a Compaq DL360 and having trouble with getting SCSI to be recognized.

its okay .. /me still googling for it

KageSenshi, xm console ? what about that

xen .. i'm trying to send ctrl+alt+fn key to a xen machine ..

xm console i guess is use to connect to a xen console

hei guys how do I add extras to my repo?

BadRobot, explain

extra repo

your question can be taken too many different ways

reposories

BadRobot, uname -r
BadRobot, extra as in additional or extra as in the Extra.repo
BadRobot, and based on your uname -r reply is needed before we can proceed

the terminal seems like hanging after i execute xm console XenDomain01 .. ps ax|grep -i xm doesnt show anything ..

Hi :-)

KageSenshi, are you at the console ?

I am here with yet another SE trouble...

KageSenshi, richard told me that alt alt alt ctrl f1 should do what you want

my smbd is trying to access a mountpoint /repo which is a seperate partition. and consists of the Fedora DVD and Updates. and is in the alias section of apache.
i never configured samba to access /repo

how to press that?? alt 3 times , ctrl , then f1 ?

alt 3 times then ctrl+f1

got it .. thanx!

np. for more info i say look into #virt@irc.oftc.net

Is it there a way to get my downloads much fast when updatading packages, because I've 2 M/bits internet connect and the download seems to be very slow,is it there anyway to get a better server?

yum install yum-fastestmirror

how can i earase an empty directory ....i am using "touch" and its not working ...i also tried "rm"

rmdir

rm -R

rmdir

rm --help or man rm

wo!
thanks ...blush
sorry i got FC6 and i love it ..but i am still learning

thanks

my smbd is trying to access a mountpoint /repo which is a seperate partition. and consists of the Fedora DVD and Updates. and is in the alias section of apache. And the SE Linux blocks the request.
i do not mind my question not being answered... bui i do not want to be banned from this channel for asking too many questions... I have asked a lot of them off late...
Have i been banned? can anyone read me?

no

lordloh:

:-)
What a relief :-D

SimplySeth?

setroubleshoot diagnoses denials

i end up going to "man rm" and i do get some instructions

that is where i know the denial from

eh ?
yep .. man shows you the manual and you press q to get out

but... it does not say nothing about " rmdir" i got -d -f, -i -r, -R

the denial has no problems... except the log entries... /repo is not supposed to be for squid and samba.

i presssed CTL Z
to get out

you can just press "q" to get out

hi ferrum

hallo

ctrlz .. but its in freeze mode so if you press fg .. it might come back to the front

aawww okay

rm -R .. -R = recursive .. it wipes out the directory and everything in it
brm -R .. -R = recursive .. it wipes out the directory and everything in it/b
woops

i still dont get it where you got rmdir ....
i only see rm -d
oh welll

I never used rmdir .. so I don't know .. I always use rm -R

what's the question?
rmdir and rm are different programs.

oh okay!
rmdir?
what you mean ferrum

man rmdir

?
but it works

rmdir removes empty directories

aawww okay
mmmmm

rm -rf "directoryname" removes directories even if they have stuff inside.

waht about touch?

touch makes a file
man touch

SimplySeth, if the file exists it updates the "Last Accessed" time.

touch seems to update the files dateand time...

true true true

touch's file creation is a highly useful side effect

quite

I agree...

that's why it's there..

hahah got it ! u all so helpful thanks

(unless you set noatime flag)

so when will fedora be assimilated by the MS borg?

most commands have their own manual

i am taking linux classes

man rmdir ... man rm ... man touch

(which is useful for partitions that hold databases and other often-read things)

your classes use Fedora?

do you have to be on a 64 bit machine to build 64 bit rpm's?

I'm surprised. Usually no one gives us any love :3

yes

JohnMahowald, doh
thanks

aawww got it Siimplyseth ...they are just different commands

in theory you can cross compile with an emulator, but eww.

hahha...your welcome ferrum

yup yup yup

does anyone know why i would get a "Missing dependency error" on mkinitrd when i try and update my kernel?

yeah i have virtual machine hosts this is 32 bit i'll just use one on the 64bit one

Alpha_Cluster, because mkinitrd has not yet been pushed from updates_testing

.. I ran into that issue today

Everyone has that issue..

then why does the kernel update require it?

It's a bug.
(that it wasn't pushed, I mean)

ferrum, a lab in my school has fedora only too

ok

ferrum, a few professors still care

all of my school's labs are OSX

i guess i can deal with it lol

ferrum, well it's a linux lab, for experimentation, not a regular PC lab
ferrum, nice school

yes they're very fancy

ferrum, mine has MS+Dell contract

I wish they would take the $ they spent on switching to OSX and use it to pay some of my tuition though.

lol my schookl has all new iMacs . dualbooting windows and OSX

ferrum, don't we all

lucky our CS lab uses Gateways with Fedora and Windows

Alpha_Cluster, rich school... to liscenced OSes per machine

Hello

two*

Hi

lol my school sold its soul to apple i think

jarrett|, hola

Alpha_Cluster, mkinitrd should be pushed tomorrow.

yay !

for now yum update --exclude=kernel\*

sweet
lol that is what i did last night
well kinda i just unchecked kernel cause i didnt want to reboot lol

i stumbled on a weird problem today with my fedora 7 installation.. worked fine and then after updating gnome won't start with the message: 'Nautilus can't be used now, due to an unexpected error from Bonobo when attempting to register the file manager view server.'

beryl is fun weeee
sorry

is there a way to download the entire xfce and KEDutainment group with rsync with al dependencies without rsyncing the Everything?

lordloh, well when you get into deps, you need a dep solver, so i would say no

i tried yum deplist and the format was not good....
is there a way to output the deplist to file and import file

lordloh, that's where i guess you'd use a script to reforat it
lordloh, i guess i can give that a try

anybody knows if i can fix the problem somehow? forgot to ask that

what deplist command did you use?
jarrett|, i don't use gnome, if it was KDE i coudl help
lordloh, what deplist command did you use?

yum deplist gdm...
I did not try it for xfce.

yumdownloader from yum-utils can resolve deps, but it doesn't take groups

XFCE may have a lot of applets....

If there is someone here that can upgrade packages, please upgrade mission-control to 4.23

yumdownloader...
I'll see...

I get lots of bug report for a crash fixed in that version and fedora 7 didn't upgraded yet

Zdra, check who the maintainer is

also, yum-downloadonly plugin

I'm not fedora user, where can I see that ?

JohnMahowald, he wanted to use rsync though

I saw the yum-download only.... Where does it download to? .... stupid question.... but still.... ?

fedoraproject.org

lordloh, /var/cache/yum i think

You can't get that kind of control over the downloaded deps with rsync.

Zdra, I can't find mission-control in the F7 repos at all o_O

yum seems to get stale when not used oftne

lordloh, yum has a cache area /var/cache/yum
lordloh, in the normal yum process.. yum downloads to the cache area... then does the rpm transactions from there

the package is telepathy-mission-control I think

Zrda, foolish@guezz.net is the maintainer of telepathy-mission-control, I'm not sure if that's related.
well there you go

lordloh, the plugin just lets you stop the process after the download to cache

thanks !

okay... I have a sotware repo for my lan... and I need some packages not on DVD...there.

lordloh, you can configure yum to use whatever cache location you prefer
lordloh, man yum.conf

seriously, if i don't use yum for a month or two, it seems to cease to function properly

hehe he.... sounds like windows....

i've noticed this since FC4

yum clean all

and is happening on an FC6 machine now
hmm,finally woke up

wow.... yumdownloader --resolve is exactly what I wanted....

lordloh, yum -C deplist gdm | grep provider | awk '{print $2}' | sort | uniq

just another question... I am a newbie... so please don't kick me... What are source RPMs used for? to obtain the source code only? or can YUM auto compile them on the target machine and intall it?

lordloh, to obtain, and possibly compile the source yourself

you can build new binary rpms using the rpmbuild command

lordloh, yum cant autocompile them..... but mock can

lordloh, yum doesn't autobuild at this time

example .. rpmbuild --rebuild somepackage.src.rpm

lordloh, mock will take an srpm.. setup the fedora build environment in a chroot..pull binaries as required..and do the srpm rebuild

nice... I always stay away from the source it gices me a fright as I once downloaded the apache source accidently on a windows machine. and I had a dial-up connection.
So I tried to build apache on Visual C++.

lordloh, haha, ok

I had to compile it more than 10 times and it did not build.
With each compile... The number of errors reduced.
I guess some file required was being generated later.
thanks.... that command you gave works like a piece of cake.... I am bad at regex... so I cannot parse it. :-(
Thanks. :-)

lordloh, there's no regexp in there though

see... I cant even figure that out....
I thought grep was some regex prog...

lordloh, remove the -C
the -C was to use your cache, instead of redownloading the meta data

works the same.

lordloh, it can do regexp, but i didn't use that

I have created a set of .repo files in my yum.repos.d/ directory. a few files like fedora.repos access only my lan repository. while fedora-internet.repo accesses the internet. I have a script that renames fedora.internet.repo to fedora-internet.oper

mkinitrd just turned up in updates

yay !

and vice versa. So I disable the internet repository whenever I like.

hello all, anyone know where i can download the new fedora theme?
i am using ubuntu, but i like fedoras blue theme and icons better

on one machine here I had this error, and on another the new kernel installed with the old initrd. zierd donùt you think?
wierd*

scales11, you'd have to find and dload the appropriate RPM

I was still wondering... How does YUM manage to know which file of the yum.repos.d is intended for updates and ehich for the everything?

scales11, and then unpack it

yeah

lordloh, it doesn't really

oper

lordloh, yum will take the most up to date package

humm, alright i will look. he, you dont know it by chance do you?

So when I try to run the updater, how coem I am not shown Everything?

scales11, no, sorry
lordloh, well it only shows the most updated packages that you don't already have

the updater show packages that are newer than the one installed on ur system
all repos are treated the same .

nice to know this... :-)

which you need? .. the gtk theme? .. the icons? .. the wallpaper?? ... iirc they are in different packages ..

hi folks

i would like the gtk theme and the icons

how to save mixer settings pemanently? capture gets dropped to 50% every reboot, and that's too silent

the gtk theme is clearlooks .. afaik, ubuntu have that .. for the icons .. wait ..

Icons are "Mist"

yeah i figured clearlooks

yup the icons are "Mist"

1 196/6886 "Returned mail: see transcript for details"" . Is easy to fix that
mail
what program use command "mail" in shell root ?

thanks

CrocoJet, ls -Zd /root

"drwxr-x--- root root root:object_r:user_home_dir_t:s0 /root" ?

An IOException occurred at scim_bridge_client_imcontext_set_cursor_location ()
what does that mean?

CrocoJet, never mind I hadn't read the whole story in the first place

ls -Zd /root
drwxr-x--- root root root:object_r:user_home_dir_t:s0 /root
?

CrocoJet, I got it. It's unrelated and looks fine anyhow
CrocoJet, put the remainder of the message on some pastebin

tobi1canobe, do you think that I can setup these internal notification (mail) to my regular internet e-mail ?

brb (phone)

have there been any reports of synaptic touchpad issues with fedora 7 ... i.e. the touchpad becoming unresponsive when d/l?

other question, I delete /var/log/lastlog
and now getting this message in /var/log/secure: " lastlog_filetype: Couldn't stat /var/log/lastlog: No such file or directory" ?

me?

any idea to fix that

hi all

Hi. fresh install F7, getting this error when trying to put the gpg key for flash: warning: cannot get exclusive lock on /var/lib/rpm/Packages

anyone ... i've had this issue with opensuse, ubuntu, and others. the only distro i haven't had this issue with thus far is debian sid and i don't really want to run sid unless i have to
i'd prefer a more stable environment

simply recreate it? using "touch" maybe?

let me try

CrocoJet, just touch /var/log/lastlog ; restorecon /var/log/lastlog

ok, thanks

CrocoJet, not sure you need the restorecon. I'm getting paranoid with selinux contexts

ok
selinux is off here .. no problem
I saw my other computer that file lastlog is not text file

should my usb drive mount automatically when plugged in?

enviouz, fc6 .. work this way

well idk if i need drivers or not
i have ati chipset

can anyone help me to test javascript at firefox, using f7...cpu usage is always high on several site (ex: http://www.detik.com or http://www.okezone.com)

all usb items should mount automatically, especially pen drives

when javascript is disable, everything ok
dunno, both site have bad js or bug on ff

thats what i though SBNet|Laptop its actuallully a usb mp3player but i use it as usb storage
it was ok a few days ago then i went from my pci card to my onboard for video and now it doesnt seem to work

yeah most lowerend mp3 players double as usb drives and it should work

enviouz, sounds irq problems

switch back to pci video and see if it works again, if so, you definately have IRQ issues

i also have to set noapic in the boot loader if that means anything

what os?

Shalom guys ! Does anybody know if "NetMos 9820 2 port Serial card (rs-232)" is compatible with Recent linux ? Does the kernel include a driver for that ? I'd appreciate any input on that.

fedora 7

i haven't had that problem yet but sounds like and irq issue

Eliran_Itzhak, "Shalom" ?

wouldnt i get a warning at boot though? i even removed quite from the boot line to read the output

CrocoJet, Shalom is a hebrew words that stands for "Hello" and "Peace". Its a standard greeting.

oh ok

you wouldn't get a warning, i had to go to noapic in the last days of FC6 for a kernel and nidswrapper issue

culture shock

the_hydra, :-)

ahh ok ty

anybody can help me with this ? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=244239

i only new i needed the noapic because i got some mp bios bug at boot

Hi, I got my network working just now. The problem was, that DHCP could not get an address. It was solved by adding "irqpoll" to the kernel boot parameters. That also solved my mouse problems.

boncos that problem is in javascript i get it with any browser that use jave script
idk exactly how to fix it though

enviouz, so that both site have bad js ?

Anyone about that RS-232 card ?

Eliran_Itzhak, did you make test to see ?

well boncos idk exactly what the prob is i just know it happens using any browser and visiting any site that uses java

more easy to install fedora and test

its got to be in java script somewhere though

enviouz, ok thanks, are you using f7 too ?

yes

CrocoJet ? I dont have this card atm,

HI

CrocoJet, I;m thinking about buying it, and want to know how well it works with linux.

weird, that no happen when i access using fc5

what is fc7 so slow downloading
why*
i'm on a 5mb connection and its downloading at 70k

f00bar`, because your not using the torrent

buy interface rs232 ? God !!!

i never noticed it before either boncos but ive only ever use fc6 briefly and f7

i think bad idea !

f00bar`, use torrent

i'm already 50% through it

old hardware ... bad investment

but
its taking forever

f00bar`, or pick other mirror

after i make changes to /etc/modprobe.conf how can i 'reload' the changes?

boncos then it will restart

Eliran_Itzhak, but I think that hayes smartmodem work with linux .. so your rs232 will works also

CrocoJet, I have 3 external modems (RS-232) but only 1 RS-232 port on my computer, thus want to buy this card i was asking about, which is supposed to ad two more RS232 ports using a PCI card. I just dont know if this card plays nice with linux.

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