CheapWebHosting.co.nz
|
CheapWebHosting.co.nz
|
|
Related Pages: |
whats the index="" bit then? cant find much about it :/
is value a valid attribute for all html host
elements?
i don't think so
nope
http://www.w3schools.com/tags/ref_standardattributes.asp
shesek thanks
np
where is website that can give me all tags with example in
single page?
because i want to download that page and give it to my
students
HTML tags?
http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/html40.pdf.gz
thanks
steve01 you're welcome
Hey guys.. I`ve been away from HTML for years.. I want to create
the nice dynamic web sites that currently exists and have been
learning up on php
webhosting for the logic - what do people recommend to look at
for the visualisation - CSS or Dynamic HTML? its mostly information
overload atm
DHTML is a late 90's buzzword meaning 'changing HTML with
Javascript'. It isn't a way of setting presentation.
ah ok - thanks
what do you recommend I look into?
Semantic markup. CSS. JavaScript. Some server host side language,
I'd tend towards Perl.
ok, I`ll focus on CSS and PHP
I`ve wrote some simple PHP user registration stuff with mysql web hosting
back-end - but the visual side of the system is a different
matter
is there any problem with the css position in IE? in mozilla it
works nice butt when i change to IE the position is completly
wrong
hello?
i'm having an HTML problem, hoping someone knows a quickfix.
www.gemtech.info
http://pastebin.ca/579080
I think it has to do with the td width ="100%"
Basically just wondering if anyone knows of a browser
compatability issue with this one line:
td width="100%" height="30" background="cellbg.jpg"div
class="blockTitle"Main Menu/div/td
it must be my .css
Or maybe its your invalid html and tables being abused
for layout.
Dorward.. it's just a premade template.
You probably would recommend CSS for menu instead?
Then it is a premade template using techniques obsoleted in
the last century and should be replaced.
gotcha...
hmm
dammit, the CMS I chose became obsolete!
Too bad it's way better and easier then joomla...
Xoops.. it's so damn easy, simple, OO... joomla webhosting is
farking crap complicated.
hi guys
does IE respect white-space: pre; ?
Dorward, regardless, any suggestions on what the prob may be?
Like maybe, add something to the blockTitle css div?
http://pastebin.ca/579098 I
posted the css here.
Dorward, also, have you any suggestions on modern design technique
and/or maybe a book about current best
host practices?
I love that line, "obsoleted in the last century" I'm gonna
start using that...
xD
I need a book that teaches web website design from a OO
perspective.
o.O
so, I could use OO in PHP, with a goal to eventually use
java..
Or at least just see some really nice php code, all in
functions, that ourputs the HTML.
Instead of my current hodge-podge of php in html and vis
verses.
no one chats anymore...
Its been a while since I coded HTML. If I wanted a web site
with a header, two side panels, a main center section (that changes
alot) and a footer.. is it still the best way to use HTML tables to
do this? (I`ll need to interface this with my PHP
scripts)
KillerJim, no tables as a layout medium are a big no-no.
what is used now?
its been years since I coded html host and thought about
site design
css + divs
css layout
hmm.. divs - need to go look that up
http://blog.html.it/layoutgala/
sweet links
thanks guys!
nice to see an IRC channel that has decent people, with decent
reponses..
under what circumstances does hitting the enter key on a form
actually submit it?
we love to answer open minded people that ask clear
questions
peepsalot as far as i know, when focus is on a form element that is
not a textarea
well, on some forms it doesn't work at all
do you have a close example ?
does it require a submit element to be defined?
its being handled as xhtml 1.1 because of the doctype
oh ofcourse it does peepsalot you need a input
type="submit"
on many webpages you have empty space or some boilerplate text
at the bottom after the real content ends
what is the best way to do it if you want an image for your
submit?
supposedly that increases usability, but does anyone have a
link in which that "technique" is described?
StaZ|Work, at the moment, we have an img tag wrapped in an achor
whic hsubmits, but that does not allow the enter key to
submit
that you hide with css
try the type="image" alone and see
if it does not work, add an hidden submit
an anchor should never be used to submit a form, that's no in
its normal behavior
StaZ|Work, it wasn't me, it was the CMS people, i'm just
trying to figure out the correct way so i can tell them ;-)
StaZ|Work, i'm just a java code mokey
tag to edit font?
font property
?
I'm confused
see also font-family, font-size, font-weight, font-style and
font-decoration
what?
oh
no
umm
well i know how to start it;
Does the browser decide to parse a document as XHTML/HTML
based on the mime type or the doctype?
span style="font-family:Courier New; font-size:10
but i don't know how to close it
*what goes at the end
steve01 the browser doesn't actually support XHTML content and
is interpreted as HTML,...
]bweare-of-xhtml
]beware-of-xhtml
]beware of xhtml
stupid bot
?
I've read that article
tag?
But you're saying that the doctype has no influence on
whether it's interpreted as HTML or XHTML?
*sigh*
Yeah, see what I did was link my xhtml fanatic friends to that
but i don't think they bother looking and just pass it off as
bullshit
And they continue to use xhtml 1.1 because it's the latest and
greatest thing
Sending it with the text/html mime type of course -_-
Phil_E now ask a clear question
what goes at the end of a span tag, but before the ?
that's not a clear question
jerk
xD
worked
do i need to register my nick on here?
asbo or StaZ|Work - what do u guys use to do the CSS/DIVS
stuff - what tool? (dream weaver?)
haha.
not a chance.
all by hand.
notepad/n++
really? damn..
I used to code HTML in notepad but we`ll CSS/DIVS look funky to
code :P
asbo
look who it is
anyone aware of a bug with ie7 and tables? I'm having a bit of
trouble @ http://www.mvclients.com/htf/pintail/spechomes.php
(I can't control the parts that don't validate. I'm sorry.)
KillerJim, the notion of using notepad to code visual
elements seems counter-intuitive to me. Dreamweaver, while poor,
seems the best choice. At least it automates uploading to
server.
"I write my word documents in notepad!"
Could it be that IE 6 ignores the following tag and tries to
guess the encoding itself or take it from the HTTP headers? meta
http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;
charset=UTF-8"
If I could, I would use a web devolopment tool that pushed my
3d graphics card to its limits.
web design should be like those new multi-touch screens.. like a
creative thing, at least design and layout
hello, so im coding in css
and i do something like this
tyt1 {
text-aling: center;
}
hello /font
but its not centered
#tyt1
that's silly
what should i use
css was meant to replace that tag, not style it
p id="tyt1"
remember when you specify #something, that is an ID, and you can
only have one instance of an ID per page and an element can only
have one ID
if you want something more generic, do like .tyt1
and then p class="tyt1"
you can use classes as many times as you want
you can specify font in css anyway and you get more subtle
control over it
text-decoration, text-transform, font-variant, etc
it still ddint center it
siema
.tyt1 {
font-size: 16px;
font-weight: bold;
text-align: center;
}
well, it probably is centered in the particular text
block
ill just use div then
0 auto; combined with a width in a block level element will
center most anything
ok, what about if i want to change font in css i do
font-family: fontname;
yea specify a default too
what ya mean
like if i dont change it
i should put
font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
oo
list a bunch, then if a computer doesn't have that font, it
tries the next one
oh nice
like you can list "Calibri" and other windows vista fonts even
though most computers won't use them
kk cool.
there are four(?) default fonts, serif, monospace, sans-serif,
cursive
unfortunately, cursive defaults to MS Comic Sans on old windows
2000 machines
o
what about if i want space a thing to be lower
i use br?
br
use css margin
normally you don't need br
im using the margins
example
bad hacks like don't work well because if you change the
line-height, you get larger spaces... among other
reasons
p { margin-bottom: 1em }
o and every p that i use will be spaced alerdy
cool
margin-bottom can be set on most elements, of course
thx
if you want to use shorthand, two values after margin is
up/down and left/right, three is up left/right down and four is up
right down left
0 1em 1em; is 1em left, right, and down
o
cool
is there a way
to do somthing like this
folder /a
and when someone clicks on it, it will go to that folder
huh
which is on ftp in publichtml
uhh... yea
so i just put name of fold?
a href="my-folder/"My Folder/a
nice
unless it is protected
which they usually aren't
can I use an animated gif as a background?
nope
So apparently xhtml has better compatibility than html
xD!
better compatibility with what?
browsers
Why do you say that?
happydude, I should be able to
why do you think that?
I don't
You just did.
This XHTML fanboy I've been talking to seems to think so
oh
But won't listen to any argument against xhtml .
stubbornness + ignorance == -_-
lets all jump on the bandwagon and use the latest and greatest..
XHTML!
Is he actually using application/xhtml+xml?
No
If my file is utf-8 encoded and this is indicated in the
head-section, I don't need to write things like ö instead of
ö, do i?
hi
whats the best embedded video player (with plasylist and image if
posible ) you know ?
specifying charset in the HEAD is for validators to know aobut
it, web browsers find out by the HTTP headers.
is it possible that HTTP headers may not specify a
charset?
Ok, but if I send a http-header which says it's utf-8
encoded, I don't need ö?
Probably best to write it like that anyway
oddball question... i'm calling the same html page in an iframe
on two different pages... is it possible to change the background
color depending on which page is calling it?
i know dick all about SSI... so lets not go there
xD
its windows hosted, and i cant use PHP
so now that i've admitted how screwed I am... whats the solution to
the problem
hello ?
Hi
?
Not in HTML
XHTML requires that you do that
But why would you use XHTML?
.
]]beware-of-xhtml
[Google] http://www.webdevout.net/articles/beware-of-xhtml
(More results: http://tinyurl.com/yw4oyc )
Mirrakor, why would it not be okay :P
cause the sticker on the page says so
(xhtml valid)
Mirrakor, do you use XHTML?
not that I choose it, I've to use it
=/
that's how it works everywhere where you've a boss It's the same
with IE compatibility
What do you mean?
oh, IE sometimes has a slightly different behaviour than other
browser
No shit xD
"sometimes"...
brb
Hi!
http://tachii.no - can anyone tell
me while IE6 still does that gap thing between the menu and the
bottom div?
hey... having some problems with css and div tags: http://pastebin.ca/580403 i am
wondering why there is a space between my title and my content. any
suggestions?
hi people is it possible to create a nested FORM? (e.g
imagine a user adminstration page - each user is listed in a row
and at the end of each row there is a 'submit' that enables the
DELETE or EDIT that individual user record. BUT if also have a
admin check box on each user record row... which will allow me to
check which user should be admin. After I finish checking the admin
users I...
...will 'submit' a UPDATE button that will update all the user
records listed in the page.....) SO this is the reason of why i am
thinking of using nested form, ONE for horizontal form controlling
each individual user, ONE for vertical form controlling all users
listed.
no, the best you can do is (as far as I know) you can give
each submit button a unique name, and do a check for the isset()
status on that button's name.
could also do some javascript fololery to have all the
individual row buttons have the same name value, but have the
onsubmit method set the value in a hidden field to the id of the
user's whose button was clicked.
ok thanks... i will think about how to work it out.
has anyone ever made a floating layer and in IE 6.0 over a
form with drop down's and text fields etc? and then have ONLY the
form text boxes and drop down menus display through the layer? this
is really anoying. seems to be IE 6 only
out of curiosity, if i embed a streaming mpeg video onto my
site, will it start playing before all of it downloads? because,
obviously, it won't all download
depends on the client that is playing it
ah, well, assuming it's an OS X system of a Windows system
with VLC or WMP, what do you think?
s/of a/or a/
what if i did a streaming flash video isntead
instead*
i'm not sure if flash vids have to download all the way before
they play, but it'd be easy for me to make that too
most of the turnkey flash video players can do buffered
playing
or if you know any links that discuss this issue, i could read
that too
that is, it does not have to load the whole thing
eg, youtube
excellent
oh, word
forgot about that
well, i'll likely have ffmpeg throw out flash vids for me then
and stream those on this project i'm making for a client
well, will probably be making anyway
someone knows a good nice readable elegant font on dafont.com
or somewhere else? i need it for an accomodation site header
image
thansk much for the info
np
eras medium?
i'm not a graphic so dunno
http://www.linotype.com/638/itceras-family.html
it cen be found other places for free, don;t worry
*can
mmmm commercial?
mmm
do you think is it nice for an accomodation site?
i used tahoma:P
but...
like, hotel/motel/etc?
eh i really dunno, i'm not a graphic
http://www.fonts.com/FindFonts/HiddenGems/Eras.htm
this is the header that i'm workin on, and i don't like it, but
i won't spend more time around it
http://www.laquarra.it/la-quarra-it/wp-content/themes/2cols/imgs/it-head.jpg
thinkin to put a text below the image
or do it more large..
but uhmfff, dunno, seems to be a 'bad quality' image too
yeah...
ouch..your 'yeah' makes me feel strange..
but i need to show to the users the house
i think
http://www.granadadesarrollo.com/proyectos/upd/UPD_archivos/ficheros/descargas/ERASMD.TTF
bold/italic variation:
http://www.splash.it/grafica/ttf/zip.htm?path=/varie/varie-e//eras_bold_italic.ttf
lol thanks
i need to study a good fast thing then
the customers uses the max res screen, and dunno why, but i
can't follow them and do an img width 1399px...
stupid
hi again, people may I know is there, or rather where, any
tutorial or code sample or article that teaches how to a mouse-over
popup form... (e.g this link http://www.dota-allstars.com/heroes,
when u mouseover a icon the description will popup, but instead of
description i want to make it a form)
google javascript window.open
that is NOT window.open
checkout http://www.bosrup.com/web/overlib/
is there a understandable/public known name for this type of
effect?
look at the html example here: http://www.bosrup.com/web/overlib/?Features
http://download.dojotoolkit.org/release-0.4.3/dojo-0.4.3-widget/tests/widget/test_Tooltip.html
and hover over the ''alpha' select box
a href="http://download.dojotoolkit.org/release-0.4.3/dojo-0.4.3-widget/tests/widget/test_Tooltip.html"http://download.dojotoolkit.org/release-0.4.3/dojo-0.4.3-widget/tests/widget/test_Tooltip.html/a
and hover over the ''alpha' select box
what does Web developer call this kind of effect?
mm
any cool professional name for this?
if it's only text is called 'tooltip', imo
Oh, I see
You're talking about overpops!
I only just got it
Go search for overpops .. you'll get tons of info
Then again, I might just be bullshitting
well css display and position will do the same effect:P
I just tried the google, and it failed
have form on it? with css? i don't think so
Results 1 - 10 of about 117 for overpops
eh infact
lemme see the second fireflymantis link:P
i don't understand then
sorry to make FreeNet more confused
I would recommend you use either dojo, or overlib. both let
you put rich markup into the 'overpop'
lol nvm
i just wanna get my job done.
but dojo seems very tedious
hey do you guys know how do I start a movie object on
stop
mode
morning all
i'm writing a php page that takes parameters via GET request
a parameter is a set of string
how the uri should be formed
EtnaRosso, is this #phph?
EtnaRosso, is this ##php?
EtnaRosso, You probably shouldn't be setting it as a string
either.
]netiquette @ Agitala
Netiquette: http://www.albion.com/netiquette/index.html
Zoffix, this is a question about uri, not about php
EtnaRosso, well this is #html URI questions is not #uri,
#http or #web
EtnaRosso, this is a pretty dumb question anyway. Haven't you
ever browsed some sites? forums? blogs?
i saw rfc2396
index.html?foo1=1&foo2=text&foo3=alala
You need to escape URI if you are planning to access the resource
or escapeHTML if you are planning to use it in a href=""
Zoffix good suggestions, thank you
Hi guys, I am looking for some 'Good Design Practices' for
html forms.
any hints?
Currently, my forms look awful and when rendered without css
they are not very usable...
tip no. 1) keep it good
what you mean? For example, I am using label+input, but without
css they are awful. Shall I enclose fields in tags? what tags?
that's the type of advice I'm looking for...
arturo_on_rails, I usually use dl
]css forms @ arturo_on_rails
http://faq.css-standards.org/Forms
, http://www.ericd.net/styled_form/
, http://jeffhowden.com/code/css/forms/
, http://www.assemblesoft.com/examples/form/
]faq @ arturo_on_rails
http://dev.ac-creations.com/cartoons/sgirl-faq-colored.jpg
....
methinks you're going backwards
_ZofBot3: With css they're fine, what I am asking is about
'content, structure'. How shall I layout stuff?
you don't put the lable and input first, you do the design, and
then you code it
not layout sorry. structure!
you mean the visual design?
yes
Ah, but I want the things to be accessible, etc, etc, etc. Of
course I more and less know how it will look, but...
arturo_on_rails, READ
what you're asking is desktop publishing, no markup per
se
arturo_on_rails, THE
arturo_on_rails, FAQ
alright, just a sec
where's the faq?
~_~
arturo_on_rails, open your eyes and look around
arturo_on_rails, I gave you 4 URLs, one of them is from the FAQ,
which is also in the /topic
I can't imagine these people code ~_~ I seriously can't picture
this.
I am... OHH! faq.css..... alright. hold on
well, I code, but never HTML
I'm a back-end guy
scary
hehehe
what you mean? For example, I am using label+input, but
without css they are awful. Shall I enclose fields in tags? what
tags? // rather obvious
what you're asking is desktop publishing, no markup per se
reason why they look 'awful'
CommandPrompt, no
You've just answered my question. (I'm now looking into the
horizon)... Thanks!
CommandPrompt, he ment that his markup is non-semantic and
they look like crap
dldtlabelThank you message/labeldtdd my field here /dd/dl
they look like crap because it has no proper structure.
...
But I think I am understanding... I must read the FAQ
^_^
Unless you are asking people to type in definitions for
terms, a dl isn't a proper structure.
..
they have no structure, cuz they have no design, which will be
the one dictating the structure
well... It is, because you have two thinkgs, an abstraction
(the field name) and the definition (the content)
Dorward, why not? dtUser name:ddinputdtPassword:ddinput
It is a definition list, not an any key-value pair list
well, I think the structure (I mean the markup) comes first,
then the css.
Because 'dorward' isn't the definition of the term
'user'
yes, but both are meaningless without design
Zoffix: CommandPrompt: I agree with Zoffix (but again there
are many ways to do it). How would you do it?
Dorward, but W3C says that it can be used for example for
dialogs. Someone's speech is not the definition of Someone's
name.
]html dl % Zoffix
Table possibly, or just divs.
What you mean? In my pda I see my website without css and they
should look usable
"Another application of DL, for example, is for marking up
dialogues, with each DT naming a speaker, and each DD containing
his or her words"
Yes, but its quite widely agreed that that is a mistake, and
the drafts of HTML 5, IIRC, forbid that useage.
is better, though they should be...
fieldnamefield
Dorward, interesting :/ So plain divs are more favorable than
dl? I see W3C use s which completely doesn't fit my mind
set.
I wouldn't use paragraphs, the semantics are wrong. Divs are
a generic block container.
Zoffix: well, I WAS using s before coming to ask the
question, but it didn't feel right to me.
that's the thing that I don't like, they're generic.
Generic is better then specificly wrong.
Anyway guys, I'm sorry but I am on dial-up and I need to go back
to work. Thank you SO much for this enlightenment.
was perfect for that. What do you think of forms done with
uls?
lilabel for="foo"Foo:/labelinput type="text" id="foo"/lili....
that is.
dl is only perfect for it if you buy into the 'dl is for key
value pairs' mindset, which I don't.
I don't really thing they are lists either. Although I see where
you're coming from.
then? Only for definitions of some terms? I rarely would find
use for that :/
or something like that.
Personally never had a site where I needed to define some
term.
for example.
True.
Hm, I need to read up on HTML 5
Ok guys, thanks bye,
How I make a line break, inside a paragraph
ya you could use BR, but i suggest you to create a new
paragraph
i assume,
I mean, if i need line breaks within a paragraph
No, not br /... unless you're using XHTML .... which is
generally a bad idea.
Line breaks in the middle of paragraphs are generally bad ideas
though (although there are some exceptions)
Its for my cms
if user wants to have a line break in some paragraphs, no point
making each new line as paragraph
so i make paragraphs as paragraphs and line breaks within them
as line breaks...
Is that right method?
i think that it is right
Line breaks in paragraphs are almost always a mistake. If the
user wants one, you should find out why and use something more
suitable.
like what?
I could use a div or something, but that make no sense
Like a list. Or a new paragraph. Or a div. It depends on the
circumstances.
probally
but for cms textarea, be too difficult to manipulate what the user
means
so should be reasonable use .
at least for new lines inside a par.
why not a new para ?
new lines inside a par
some lines in par need to be like headers
ah, well, HTML has elements for headers
hmm
is it ok to put headers inside a par?
no#
headings aren't paragraphs
headings inside an article should be like h3 ..
at this level, (headings of lists, or description of par)
right?
Maybe. Basically, an h1 is the main heading for a page. Any
headings for sections of that page will be h2. Subsections of those
sections will be h3, and so on.
hmm ok
]html proper title @ ya
http://www.accessibility101.org.uk/tips/97.htm
nyone know where a good tutorial is for using xml with html
forms? I need to send a request in xml format to a server
bnyone know where a good tutorial is for using xml with html
forms? I need to send a request in xml format to a
server/b
Related Topic:
