Roobarb It depends on what they need and what I need My email and since I get zero spam Im happy to blurt it out

CheapWebHosting.co.nz

DirectoryMatch -private and Location -private both match localhost-private but which one is better for security
Hi my website is running very slow its about 6-7 seconds of loading everytime and i dont understand becouse its

4 2007] [error] [client 10.50.8.30] File does not exist:
any ideas what might cause that?

dunno but i'm looking at http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mod_rewrite.html atm

yeah, unfortunately, according to taht, i've created my rule properly

how do i get apache 2 on fiesty to do a graceful restart?

ubuntu-rocks: /etc/init.d/apachectl restart won't work for you?

e-voc - no. i usually use /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
i don't have apachectl

i think that's jsut naming
just even

can I setup logrotate via cron.hourly to run instead of cron.daily?

ubuntu-rocks: this would make sense, if you logs grow up to 100MiB in an hour.
ubuntu-rocks: otherwise it does not.

jMCg,hi

yeah, i was getting 1mb/min

finally I could achieve it

ubuntu-rocks: find out why.

my app works fine, but now I have got another problem

5am and my access.log file is over

ubuntu-rocks, dear, have you considered, for a start, splitting your logs per vhost?

1 I have got a forbidden error. This is the virtual host

verbatim

Verbatim means "word for word" "copy and paste". It means we want the exact error message from the error log. That also means use a pastebin for 3 lines. Ask me about 'apc' for which pastebin to use.

did you check the errorlog?

what does the error log say.
ARGH

lol
the error is that http://pastebin.ca/595256

pctony, jink -- please to take a look at his vhost. http://pastebin.ca/595250

jMCg, it is just a test

httpd.conf

the scriptalias overlaps with the docroot
^^

didn't come that far.
I just saw the VirtualHost line and screamed.

lol

why?

it has two ip's
rls?

for useless Use of cat

:-/

what it is the problem? Sorry, but I am a beginner andI would like to know what is wrong

enlighten me.
How would you do oh
shit

shit is solid excrement... please don't use such language!

example vhost

Take a look at this for an example vhost http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/Recipes/ExampleVhosts

._.
thanks.....

anyway, if I remove FollowSymlinks it works fine

take a look at http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/Recipes/ExampleVhosts

you mean, I should make two instead of writing two IP's in the same one?

either that, or you do *:*

or use *:80

Or just *, which means the same.

heh

80 != 81 :P

i just spotted that

wel, jMCg, I am using 81 with intention
but I know what you mean

in that case use two vhosts, if you want

I thought so.. _wfq still using Listen 80 and Listen 81 and then a single vhost with * would make more sense.

i hate VirtualHost *

literally.. hate.. as in.. I hate megaspaz ?

jMCg, No. From my opinion is not the same. I want differents services in different ip's

a bit more than megaspaz, even!
i totally loathe it!

if I do that I am telling Apache I want the same virtualhost for all ips listening to 80
anyway, as pctony said is smarter

oh, you're telling _us_ what to do!?? wonderful! then why don't you fix your own stuff?

No man, this is my opinion. Of couser I will be totally wrong as I am a beginner
you guys are the expert ones

Yes we are. Now pay us.

for this reason I am asking you
sorry, I am broken
lol

jMCg - server host is only running 1 web site

ubuntu-rocks: okay.. what then is it, that is producing an access log of 900MiB in size?

referral spam?
spider indexing?

he'd be spiderman himself by now, if this were spiders.
Morning thumbs

if he has a LOT of content, it's possible
morning

what can I do you for today, thumbs?

doesn't look so much too me.

hi all
is there a way to share the home directories via webdav, similar to userdir module, only allowing the owner to write content and all users to read content in it?

to just *read* it or also to write it?

the user itself should have it writeable
but others in the group users (which can read it anyways if logged in) should be able to read it

filesystem permissions should do that naturally.

nope.

no?

problem is apache is running as Apache user. so it needs write access to the directory.
but then everybody will have write accesss.. unless...
mod_authz_external
mod_auth_external

mod_auth_external is ~a flexible tool for creating authentication systems based on other databases at http://www.unixpapa.com/mod_auth_external.html

I would use that thing for authenticating the right user at the right place and give the right group read access.
But that's just me

jMCg, thx for the hint

mod_authnz_external

mod_authnz_external is http://unixpapa.com/mod_auth_external/ also see pwauth

i'll try it

for 2.2, btw.

ok, i think i've seen it as module in debian etch

I use mod_rewrite and I want to write a RewriteCond line to catch requests to "/blog/wp-comments-post.php".
Is "RewriteCond ${REQUEST_URI} (wp-comments-post) [NC]" wrong?

"RewriteCond ${REQUEST_URI} /blog/wp-comments-post.php"

it does not appear to be intercepted. The request goes to the 404 page.
oh, the affordable blogging has a rewrite section earlier, provided by wordpress. If i put my lines above those..

where do you have that directive? in server/vhost configuration or in .htaccess?
...and if in .htaccess, then in DocumentRoot or in DocumentRoot/blog directory?

the configuration is in .htaccess, and .htaccess in ~/blog/

remove the leading / from your rule, then

Weird shit.. really..

Like "RewriteCond ${REQUEST_URI} blog/wp-comments-post.php", is not caught.

rewritelog

rewritelog is http://httpd.apache.org/docs-2.0/mod/mod_rewrite.html#rewritelog http://httpd.apache.org/docs/mod/mod_rewrite.html#rewritelog. Use this logging to help design and track rewrite; see also rewriteloglevel; and cannot be used from .htaccess

rewriteloglevel

rewriteloglevel is http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/mod/mod_rewrite.html#rewriteloglevel. RewriteLogLevel 9 is log everything...

there is another issue; my webhost uses Apache 1.3. Could that be an issue?
1.3.27

1.3.27 has been replaced by 1.3.31 and you should upgrade.

sorry, 1.3.37
1.3.37

1.3.37 is the latest 1.3x release

Hello

salut, Kioob.

Is it possible under linux hosting to know the exact amount of memory used by an apache process ? "ps -elyf" show 50MB per process, which of course is wrong...

When I use "RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} (wp-comments-post) [NC]" it catches referers quite well.

why is it wrong?

I have 194 apache2 process running, and only 552Mo of memory used

well.. that sounds wrong then.

4 2007] [error] [client 10.50.8.30] File does not exist:

i already had it that way, gezick.

I seem to remember there used to be something with ModProxyPass to do these sorts of things
but looking at the docs now, doesn't seem to be the case?

so, is there a way to see it ?

I don't know.

what permission should be granted to files under www/data ?
sorry, not permission. I mean which user own the directory and subdirectories, files
root or www or other user

make sure the user apache runs as does NOT won the file/'directories
s/won/own/

how do i fix this??? Starting web server (apache2)...Can't send mail: sendmail process failed with error code 1

what does the error log say, exactly?

give me a sec i'm mailing it
or not...

not is mandatory, but recomended

I find www and root, so I should choose another user as the owner, right ?

make sure the user apache runs as does NOT own the file/directories

k, thx
could you tell me wh
shy
why

because if www were to use it, any hacker could modify your apache files
s/use/own/

root was the owner before
any problem

that's fine/.

i managed to make it work. wordpress hosting put a section for mod_rewrite with [L] at the rule. I changed that to [N] and it is ok now
I see in the logs invalid requests that start with "comment=%3Ca+href%3D%22+http%3A%2F%2Fdennislearningcenter.osu.edu%2...".

hi there

hola, alecs.

can anyone help me solving my problem ?

Is there a way to block requests based on the size?

http://allsystems.ro/cgi-bin/vqadmin/vqadmin.cgi
vqadmin.cgi"

Hi guys.. I'm trying to set up some caching on my apache server via mod_header and mod_expires... I've used this configuration: http://apache.pastebin.ca/595319 ... but for some reason Expires is set to "now" instead of "in two hours from now" when request fx an css-file from the webserver.... any help would be appriciated

Can I set php web hosting open_short_tags=off with a .htaccess file?

Ind[y]: try this: "php_value open_short_tags=off"

ok, thank you :-)

Hi. I want suexec to execute scripts from users according to their UID/GID. As suexec does with mod_userdir files. But I can't use mod_userdir so I want suexec to execute the files properly even w/o a running mod_userdir.

Is it possible to make appache not case sensitive ?

undead?

undead is 7http://www.regdeveloper.co.uk/2006/08/01/apache_undead/

read that article. It's HTTP that's case-sensitive

Hi , is there a ready to use suexec that can chroot anywhere? ( and best host isnt 10 years old )

so i have to make symlin ?
*symlink

there's mod_speling. But much better to fix your system so you have just the one URL for a page.

how can i install this ?

Hi! I'm getting an odd problem with subversion and apache. Subversion is working fine and Apache is working fine. And when I have my subversion repository on my regular harddrive they are working fine together. However when I have my repository on my RAID 5 array I get an error from apache when I try to access the repository. (But I can access the repository fine directly). I've stumped the people in #svn (here is the pastes I made while working with th
Sorry about the wall of text...

Hi all!

All is not in today, LiMaLiEd

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i've got apache 2.2.4 running on solaris, and i can't seem to set up a php hander correctly, because php files are downloaded instead of executed. as i understand it, AddHandler and Action lines for php need to exist in the httpd.conf file - am i missing something? partial paste of httpd.conf at http://pastebin.com/939021

php

php is a scripting 'language' that is enabled by loading mod_php and AddHandler application/x-httpd-php php or http://www.devside.net/articles/php

you're loading mod_php yes?

Roobarb-Work: the httpd.conf was initially set up by someone else, so i'm not sure of some of the settings. it has LoadModule php5_module libexec/libphp5.so but the various entries may not match up as they should (mod_php instead of php5_module?)

usually it's php_module or php5_module

I would expect it to be: LoadModule php5_module extramodules/mod_php5.so

Roobarb-Work: extramodules?

I sense vendor breakage

Roobarb-Work: what vendor, if I may ask?

Mandriva (2006), Apache 2.0.54

right, right... still wrong, wrong.

does the modules that _your_ config refers to, exist ?

Roobarb-Work: if you compile hosting php from hand [scary stuff to do], it'll place itself among the other modules, because you would have configured it with with aspx

Roobarb-Work: i'll check. that would explain my problem

Or apxs, for that matter.

libexec/libphp5.so does exist

ok
I'd remove the AddType line..... and I've never seen the Action thing before

Roobarb-Work: which action thing?
Roobarb-Work: ah.. you mean from the devside article.

http://pastebin.com/939021

Are there any known issues with apache and RAID? Or maybe special settings I need do...?

Action application/x-httpd-php /opt/csw/bin/php5 What's that good for?

nope

i've commented out my 4 logformat lines in my apache2.conf, any adverse effect? i'm trying to disable loogin for testing

Roobarb-Work: this php config looks about as b0rked as any other

ubuntu-rocks: aache will use its in-built defaults I expect - you should be removing the CustomLog lines to sto logging

Damn these changes in Apache2's rewrite rules!!

what is a recommended way to rotate apache logs on sol 10? using logadm or some custom rotate script w/ in apache's conf ?

Curses. I then have no idea why I can get apache to work with an svn repo if it isn't on the RAID but can't when it is on the RAID.

in what way does it not work?

Roobarb-Work: http://www.devside.net/articles/php scroll down to: PHP as an Apache2 module [the right way]

Roobarb-Work: I get this error when it is on the RAID; http://paste.lisp.org/display/43580#8

Apache doesn't have permissions to read files in that directory
check that the user apache runs as (the User field in your config) has Traverse (+x) permissions on all directories in that path
and check that they have read permissions on that directory

http://paste.lisp.org/display/43580#9

What am I missing here? http://rafb.net/p/Qxf7G080.html
I'm getting:

not-matched

That says that the referer isn't set on that particular request.

And it does seem to be running as www-data; http://paste.lisp.org/display/43580#10

ah, my bad... it works now
I disabled referers in FF, and was testing in that condition, doh!

fyi i commented out those logformat lines in apache2.conf and when i do a tail of the access.log, it just shows combined for every line

hi
i have a problem with apache 2.2 mod_rewrite
I don't know how to enable it.

can you be a little more specific?

i was used to configuring apache 2.0.59

What does "enable" mean, in this context. What have you tried, and what happened?
mod_rewrite syntax is unchanged from 2.0.59 to 2.2

I just want to know what configuration file to change
and its location in ubuntu

I do not know where ubuntu hides things. You need to make sure that there is a LoadModule directive for mod_rewrite somewhere.

Debian?

Debian is "we complicate it for you so you don't have to" or see /usr/share/doc/apache*/README.Debian* or http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/Platform/DebianLike

Indeed ^^

ubuntu

ubuntu is an ancient African word meaning 'I can't configure Debian'

woo! Its Friday! And I'm officially laid off today!

Congratulations.

that sucks or congrats?

Thanks
It sucks

thought so, never fun being unemployed, hate the feeling

But there's always WAL*MART for $10.00/hour
After I resigned from Linuxcare back in 2001, I was out of work for 2+ years
Was NOT fun

move to calgary alberta, you'll make $20/hour just working at tim hortons!

Ah, yeah, I forgot you were with Linuxcare. They were an interesting company.

one isn't unemployed. One is a freelancer, self-employed, a consultant, or [insert preference here]

Ok, true
I'm going to freelance my way down to the Unenjoyment Office and earn a cool $490/week now
DrBacchus, They're still kicking (and still not doing anything), as a new company, Levanta.
Still not public, still hiring and firing people on a whim, still not sure of what they want to do with themselves

I dont get it... why is mod_rewrite hard to be configured in apache 2.2?

phpcurious, Its not using PCRE, and its a bit more paticular
er, particular
What worked in VirtualHost blocks before, now needs to go in Directory blocks, and so on. Its just more specific.

but i like apache 2.2 to have multithreaded process enabled
mod_proxy too

Sorry, got called away
mod_rewrite is no different in 2.2 than in 2.0
The regex engine is updated, but the apache configuration bits are unchanged.
The new regex engine enables some new functionality, but doesn't remove any.

ahh

I'm going from 1.3.4 to 2.2.3

You may need to : a2enable mod_rewrite
I have no idea what ubuntu enables by default.
oh, a2enmod not a2enable
However, I'd expect that it's enabled by default.
If you just put rewriterules in your config, it should just work.

let me try

The real question is what rules you have tried, and why you think they're not working.

i just realized my mod_rewrite isn't enabled because when I tried to run a PHP framework to run the rewriting rules won't work

Are those rules in the main config, or in a .htaccess file?

the rewriting rules are in the .htaccess file

So what you should be investigating first, then, is not whether mod_rewrite is enabled, but whether .htaccess files are enabled.

when i checked the phpinfo() there is no mod_rewrite module enabled

ok
well, then try a2enmod, and say whatever strange incantation that ubuntu requires.

it said " this module does not exist

What said that, in response to what?
What exactly did you type?

RewriteLogLevel 9

RewriteLogLevel 9 makes sure you get all possible rewrite log messages. also, make sure you turn it down when you're done to prevent performance impacts

RewriteLog /path/to/rewrite.log

i typed a2enmod mod_rewrite

perhaps it's a2enmod rewrite
I don't know. I don't do ubuntu

It is

i am getting curious , what os do you use?

MS-DOS

SCO!

MS-DOS is ?/M-S-dos/ [MicroSoft Disk Operating System] n. A clone of {CP/M} for the 8088 crufted together in 6 weeks by hacker Tim Paterson, who is said to have regretted it ever since. Numerous features, including vaguely UNIX-like but rather broken support for subdirectories, I/O redirection, and pipelines, were hacked into 2.0 and subsequent versions; as a result, there are two or more incompatible versions of many system calls, and MS
sco is http://bash.org/?106579

DrBacchus, Is there a way to prevent Indexes, but not throw a 403? Right now I've just been putting a 0-byte index.html in the dir, but that's messy.

I use a variety of OSes, but for the purposes of this conversation, it probably suffices to say that I always build Apache from source, and so don't rely on strange third-party distros and their "helper" scripts.

" Module rewrite installed; run /etc/init.d/apache2 force-reload to enable." it works!

I suppose you could use a rewrite rule to look for /$ and react in some fashion to that.

But I'd have to stick it in 90% of my vhosts... yech.

Or, use -Indexes and a custom 403 page that doesn't look like a 403 page.

hrm

thank you for the big help

But that still requires 3 additional lines in each vhost (Rewrite on, Rule, ErrorDocument). I'll see what I can figure out

my mod_rewrite is finally enabled

Good deal.

Robert

I tried to look for solution on the net but to no avail

That doesn't require any rewrite rules at all.
Options -Indexes, ErrorDocument 403 /boogity

er, you're right... was reading up too far

Yes, sorry, I suggested several conflicting things. :-)

ok, i
sorry, still having trouble with php. paste: www.pastebin.com/939021
i've added the php addtype lines to my virtual host config (www.pastebin.com/939021), but php files are still downloaded, not executed

pastebin.com is pretty consistently very very slow
Can you use apc instead?
apc

Try using http://apache.pastebin.ca - It's a good pastebin, and is even set up to highlight Apache 'stuff'.

is your libphp5.so in libexec/ or in modules/ ?

libexec
http://apache.pastebin.ca/595524

x-httpd-php5?
not x-httpd-php?

e-voc: when i connect to the server, my browser asks me if i want to save or open a file of type application/x-httpd-php5 . . .

i don't think there is application/x-httpd-php5
did you try application/x-httpd-php?

e-voc: i'll try it

with application/x-httpd-php, nothing changes: browser still asks if i want to open/save a file of type application/x-httpd-php5

browser cache?

Browser caches can be very persistent. Restarting the browser, or even rebooting, will not necessarily clear the cache. You must expressly clear the cache via the menus.

is there anything in the log files?

grrr, why is it that apache2 makes _every_ directory not specifically stated as -Indexes, as browsable?
grr

you have 'Options Indexes' as default?

Nope

and that closed that hole down

Could be more Debian default breakage

Options None..

I'm going through every single vhost's directory structure, testing every single subdirectory now
growl

The answer to your question is:

Ok, this is a mess

options default

The default value for Options is Options All

If I set -Indexes for a vhost, and then add a .htaccess in a subdir of that vhost with "Options +Indexes", ap2 tells me that its not allowed.
6 2007] [alert] [client 10.0.1.1] /var/www/sites/code/Bronx_is_Burning/.htaccess: Option Indexes not allowed

i'm getting somewhere now, thanks for the cahce reminder, lamp. http://apache.pastebin.ca/595524 and http://apache.pastebin.ca/595565

I have a bit of a problem. I asked about it yesterday and got some good feedback, but the bosses haven't OK'd that.
We have about 1100 logs created (550 vhosts with error/access each), and I was advised to remove logs for them
then pipe it or run a cron against the log to split it every few minutes. I like the cron idea myself.
is there a limit built into apache for open files? We add another vhosts and apache fails to start.

DrBacchus, Is there some new structure in ap2 that I have to add to allow parsing of .htaccess files?
er, well, it MUST be parsing it, because it errors out on it... so why isn't it allowing it?
er, well, it MUST be parsing it, because it errors out on it... so why isn't it allowing it?

different AllowOverride arguments than you earlier had

hey, its 'loca-pipe-to-host'
http://www.xkcd.com/c276.html

you're probably hitting a ulimit open files limit

yeah, it's an os limit. you can increase it

ulimit -f 4096, before you start apache
or whatever limit you want
(man bash, search for ulimit)

sysctl it

ulimit -n, sorry not -f

huh

Please state the nature of your computing emergency

huh

Please state the nature of your computing emergency

cool

I have the line RedirectMatch 301 (.*)\.shtml$ http://www.domain.com$1.php in my .htaccess but now www.domain.com gets redirected to www.domain.com/index.php. does anyone know a workaround?

Hi, what is the best way to rotate logs for apache ?
easier will be good too

logrotate

logrotate is supercool or see rotatelogs

kewl
thanks
does logrotate helps in removing logs older than certain number of days ?

removing as in deleting? no
but it splits your logs up by time period so it's easy to do that.

You can use a cron job to delete old logs, its 1 find line

yeah

yea i guess i can set a cron job to do that

for i in `find $WEBLOGDIR -mtime +28|sort`; do (rm $i); done;

you know that proxy setup you showed me ...

yeah?

gold! Thanks for that

cool

Roobarb-Work: We have it set to ulimit -n 128767 in the /etc/rc.d/init.d/httpd file, but we still fail when adding another vhost.

also you know if it would be possible to use something like pond for the proxy ? (I think its called pond)

pound

pound is =a HTTP load balancer available at: http://www.apsis.ch/pound/

dunno, maybe

Roobarb-Work: ulimit -a shows : "open files (-n) 10240"
file-max shows : 393203

btw... it does work with mod_secuirty jail.

Roobarb-Work: security/limits.conf shows apache/root soft @ 42767, hard @ 128535
Roobarb-Work: when i did a search in the apache src I found FD_SETSIZE = 2048

what does the error_log say?

I made a suexec that chroot php , works good , the problem now is that mod_fcgid still serves the full path to the binary ( /var/www/blabla/htdocs/index.php , instead of /htdocs/index.php ) anyone might have a solution?

what does the error_log say?

what os?

Roobarb-Work: trying to find the error now, but nothing helpful
rhel3

rhel3 is slow

Hello
I have a problem, with Apache and PHP
When i enter to my localhost, with firefox, the php doesn't see

10k open files is rather a lot
oh, sorry.

You will be!!

does not see what

It offer me to download the .php file

yea! I am trying to get them to do like you said yesterday and put all access in 1 file then parse

what playform ?

When i enter to a php file in my localhost it offer me to download

platform

'What Operating System and apache version are you using?'

Oh, sorry. PHP5, Apache2 and Ubuntu 7.04

the bosses haven't approved that yet, I just told them to dump the error logs since the errors are in the access_log anyways

well, that's certainly one way.

did u get the apt packages ?

although it makes debugging a lot harder

The only ones who see the errors: me, my manager, and his manager. The coders never really see the logs

i don't see how 550 hosts with 2 logs each translates to more than 1100 open log files

what do you have in your /etc/httpd/httpd.conf file for the TypesConfig part

why don't you dump all the error logs into the same place, then

I use apt-get to install: sudo apt-get remove apache2 php5-mysql libapache2-mod-php5 mysql-server

that will cut down your open files by a factor of 2
should let you add the next vhost, anyway

yes indeed howerver, there are configuration files that are installed that may need to be modified

The way we do the sites: each site actually points to our main site, which checks the hostname request and gives them the correct template.

i grabbed apt-get install php5 mysql5 apache2. all worked straight away

so having all errors in 1 spot is a bit hard, since you don't know where that error is coming from then

What file?,

yeah, i understand that

i believe ubuntu has some good docs for installing apache, hold on one second let me see if i can locate one

with access, we can add %V to the combine and we are good to go

but it's better than no error log at all
sure, the access logs are a lot easier

I'm wondering if syslog-ng is the way to go

http://www.strdoc.net/ubuntu-apache-php-mysql-server/

piped logs work great

yea, but access_log stores the error, just have to look for the status code (401, 404, ect)

never mind that just does the install

Ok, i read it now

but you still have the issue of figuring out which vhost an error applies to

yea

yeah, access log stores the fact
but the error log has the details

I want apache httpd to start on boot time.. Can I just place it in my init scripts dir (/etc/init.d/rc3.d) or do i n eed to make a wrapper around it that calls the script with the start option

if you dump all your error logs into one file, you can use the timestamp

just put a symlink in there and you are good to go

it's not very good, but it's better than nothing

thanks Treader
awesome

-- gone

yea, I think that's the way we will have to do it

DirectoryIndex context

server config, virtual host, directory, .htaccess

at least it will by them some time

sure

This is much better https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP

then I can get them to do the same to access_log and we can parse it or pipe it

right
how do you rotate your logs by the way?

Yes, i read it yet

I don't think they do! I just started here a month or so ago
these files are in the 100mbs right now

If I have Options -Indexes, DirectoryIndex index.html, and an index.html in a subdirectory, why am I getting this?
1 2007] [error] [client 10.0.1.1] Directory index forbidden by Options directive:
But going to /var/www/sites/eclug.net/iMac/index.html works fine

there is an httpd.conf file and a mime.types ? config file

either you forgot to load the php module... or your mime types are not correct?

what is a recommended way to rotate apache logs on sol 10? using logadm or some custom rotate script w/ in apache's conf ? (sorry for repeat post incase someone missed it earlier)

I'm finding out how much space right now!

Where is the httpd.conf?, because i cant find it

one advantage of piped logs is that you can rotate them without restarting the server

i believe its in /etc/httpd/ or maybe /etc/apache ?

i've seen a lot of shops where they use syslog-ng or some variant, and then end up restarting their server every day to do log rotation
with piped logs, you don't need to do that, it's a lot better that way

I uninstalled php, mysql and apache

/etc/apache2/

and now i'm installing again

ok reinstall and follow that guide and if the problem persists let one of us know

Ok
Thanks1

one of the devs said we are rotating them, they use webalizer for stats

I have the line RedirectMatch 301 (.*)\.shtml$ http://www.domain.com$1.php in my .htaccess but now www.domain.com gets redirected to www.domain.com/index.php. does anyone know a workaround?

if the logs are hundreds of mbs, they probably don't rotate them very often.

/VirtualHost, do I still need a DocumentRoot pointing to /path/to/that/host inside the VirtualHost block?

restarting the server weekly or monthly is less of a hassle

how could we tell if they are rotating?
probably a cron job of some kind?

possibly. that's the usual approach

let me check

Ok, wtf... this makes no sense now

ah ha, looks like our logrotater is broken..

cute

Shes cute, lets cure her with sunshine and puppies!

it's not uncommon.

http://rafb.net/p/5run4R66.html
That config, results in:
2 2007] [error] [client 10.0.1.1] Directory index forbidden by Options directive:
But there *IS* no Options line forbidding parsing of index.html

the thing about rotating logs is that you have to get the process to close and reopen the log file
usually the only way to do that is to restart the daemon

so log rotation packages usually let you configure a restart

this one says that it will recreate the files
not sure that helps any

Even with Options +Indexes, I get the same error

apache like most daemons automatically creates its log files
but it doesn't hurt to precreate them
the thing that can go wildly wrong is if you don't wait for the daemon to close the log file
particuarly if you're going to do something like gzip it
apache's piped logs avoid all those issues, because apache has a connection open to the logger

GRRRR! Why does Options +Indexes NOT allow me to parse index.html?

if you want directory listing, apache needs read and access privileges to that dir. otherwise check your DirectoryIndex, do you have index.html there? or is there a .htaccess file in path

I know its somewhat unrelated, but...

and the logger itself is writing the log file, and rotating periodically.

With cronolog it does not hurt if you precreate the directories.. otherwise you might add a vhost and find apache doesn't start

If we pipe it, wouldn't it be opening and closing files for every write?

lamp, No .htaccess in there, index.html is there, and readable..

no
the pipe is permanently open

http://www.eclug.net/iMac/ vs. this http://www.eclug.net/iMac/index.html

ok then, so if we pipe this stuff, what are we piping it to, some logger we write ourselves?

cronolog is good

is there something that we can get online?
ok

there's also a simple one in the apache distribution itself
cronolog has more bells and whistles
piped logs

piped logs is `http://httpd.apache.org/docs/logs.html#piped or http://httpd.apache.org/docs-2.0/logs.html#piped

read all about it
have fun, gotta go

and we can separate all of virtual hosts to different logs?
ok
thx for the help

thanks rici

I would double check the DirectoryIndex

lamp, I had to stick a .htaccess in there with: Options +Indexes\nDirectoryIndex index.html

you have to include the vhost in the access log format

Apparently having the same thing in the vhost config, wasn't enough

then you split it up afterwards
in a separate process.
cron'd

I think you need to put Options inside e.g. Directory section

It is

in server/vhost config

See my rafb.net above

Options is not inside Directory
in http://rafb.net/p/5run4R66.html

Right, I moved it up, and put it back... same results in either location
I hate to use .htaccess, but if that's what it takes to get it working...

should not make a difference but try removing trailing slash from your Directory and Documentroot

All 160+ other vhosts work fine, and they have terminating slashes on those values

hmm, strange. still there's an explanation, I'm confident

ok, we'll try that

I bet there is. I wish Apache's logging was more verbose to say something like "Saw Option line 234 in your.vhost.config, which overlaps Option line 23 in other.vhost.config." or some such

or something blocks later on your config?

I have, the entire .conf for that vhost is that single entry above, and one for the mailing lists (which is outside of the tree entirely)

(98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address 0.0.0.0:80

what os?

arch linux

Is it already running?

I was able to fix it by commenting out Listen 80 .. since it's just for local use
in httpd.conf

O_o

umm, what port are you listeining on then?

Listen 80 is default.

You probably had multiple listen listen statements.

don't think so .. but why do I need to Listen 80 when I'm only using it locally

Because the proper syntax is 127.0.0.1:80

if you're only using it locall, you .. thanks, arreyder

er, Listen 127.0.0.1:80

if you're using it locally, that means you're connecting to it on the loopback interface. it doesn't mean that ports no longer apply.

then I get the same error ..

check your config for mor Listen statements.
make sure you look in any included files

you're starting apache as root, right?

yes I am

skype?

skype is ca cross-platform P2P Voice Over IP Program or http://www.skype.com/ or from the 'creators' of KaZaA)takes over port 80 for no apparent reason

no other Listen in httpd.conf

netstat -lntp | grep :80
see whats on it.

nothing ..

hi folks

Don't forget the bots

then it's apache, and multiple Listen statements :P

doesn't matter .. I'll use my distro's default apache, maybe that'll work
hmm .. why isn't make uninstall working ? =/

huh?

Please state the nature of your computing emergency

could do with some assistance, for some reason when i am adding a new site to my httpd.conf file and restarting the service, i get an error message VirtualHost overlap on port 80
how can i get it working .... i just had to rebuild my box oz the hdd died

namevirtualhost

namevirtualhost is http://httpd.apache.org/docs-2.0/mod/core.html#namevirtualhost or http://httpd.apache.org/docs/mod/core.html#namevirtualhost or You must specify only one NameVirtualHost directive, hopefully with an IP address or a *. It says on which interfaces should Apache listen to name based vhosts requests, nothing more.

I've built & installed apache from source, but it won't uninstall =/

there is no make uninstall

rm -Rf /usr/local/apache2/

Hmm. No matches for that, arreyder.

that's unneccessary!

i have numerous websites on the box, i dont recall having to set up a name previously?

the --force is within you, not on the command line!

then use ServerName and maybe a ServerAlias

how to remove it then?

If you do NameVirtualHost *:80

rm -r /usr/local/apache2

then add the vhosts for them with the VirtualHost *:80, inside you would add a ServerName host.com and ServerAlias www.host.com

thx

k Treader
1 sec .. trying now
thx Treader has worked ...

No prob!

1 smiling .. but stressed teccy
only another 30 sites to put back on now

lol well if you plan to grow, don't add a log file to each site We are can't add anymore log files to ours at this time

i have a 1TB disk .... and only allow 100MB for standard sites
1tb disk only 180GBP

any ideas why i may be getting intermittent issues with Proxy Error Reason: Error reading from remote server

It doesn't seem to matter how big the logs are, but how many you have open with apache. my basic calculations put ours at 1100, we add another and apache doesn't start. so just something to think about (we are on rhel3)

Treader, im running CNT5
which is latest RHEL effectively and its FREE

all that matters is it works right

indeed thats all that matters

given who I work for I can't be a sound judge, but I found CentOS to be a substandard product when I ran it.

sadmac, who u work for?

Red Hat

Red Hat is @very similar to Mandrake, except that it sucks a whole lot less.

wow,

wow, is this a black art

sadmac, i had no problems running it ... and i been running it for 2yrs
dare i ask this then .... anyone know anything about QMailToaster

I went back to fedora for stability reasons when I ran 4.

if mandrake sucks more than redhat, i cant imagine how bat that is.
if mandrake sucks more than redhat, i cant imagine how bat that is.
bad*

never had a problem with CNT

thanks for your sensitivity

9 2007] [warn] module cache_module is already loaded,
?

I'm going to go out on a limb and say either debian or rpath for you

ahh heres another question for this room .... i want to user WebDAV .... how do i swith it on ... or do i have to d/load extra bits ... i hear its like FPExts

well it seems that the rev proxy is a bit more stable when i bind only to Listen localhost:port
I actually like gentoo, use to be a mandrake users but gentoo was the only flavor that didnt eff its self when you do an upgrade like kde.
other choices are slackware, debian though

ahh. gentoo would have been a good guess too
rPath scares me. The product itself is fine, but the users and maintainers seem to be a distillation of all the world's hatred and anger.
Its like a singularity of infinitely massive vim vs emacs bickering

lol yah i dislike that sort of thing thats why i use nano

Does anyone know why apache is getting a permissions error when it tries to access a SVN repository on a RAID but it works fine when the repository isn't on the RAID?
uDoes anyone know why apache is getting a permissions error when it tries to access a SVN repository on a RAID but it works fine when the repository isn't on the RAID?/u

hello, i having problems with my rewrite rules.. can any1 help ?

I use vim, but I don't have a problem with emacs users

not to state the obvious but, did you reset the permissions after you coped to the raid

?
9 2007] [warn] module cache_module is already loaded,

i want to user WebDAV .... how do i swith it on ... or do i have to d/load extra bits ... i hear its like FPExts

how do i fix that?

I've done it with the permissions exactly the same. And I also went all out and set the repo on the RAID to 777 and still have the problem.

any1 knows how to fix URL Rewrites ????

i have svn installed on a raid and its working for me, maybe permissions on a parent folder?

here is the paste for mod
_cache
http://attachr.com/8439

what rewrites?

rewrites is 3a... well, kind of a mess... and its soon 2 am here

its a wiki URL re writes, from old bugs url's to Clean url

I'll give that a try KWhat. Thanks.

if its a regex problem I'm probably your man
lets see the rule

did u got it /
?

Xinc? I don't follow

let me pastebin

yeah

http://paste.uni.cc/16549
i have subdomain wiki

hello everyone!

hello everyone! is it possible to enable .htaccess to a specific folder only? any how to? thanks in advance...

i have set it up but its giving me 404 error
http://galbijim.com

reinstall wiki

ahmetalpbalkan ?? what good would that do ?

what is the url its getting rewritten to?

fajita, you can search about htaccess at google

what?

http://wiki.galbijim.com/Main_Page
just removing the index.php thing from the URL

fajita is a bot

No, I just type really really fast.

set the [R] option on these so you can see what you're getting moved to
or if you are

normally it is working http://wiki.galbijim.com/index.php/Main_Page
fine

oh yes
i see
i have just recognized, fajita is a bot

aah
that's what you're doing
ok

sadmac yeah..

hey
i have a problem
can you answer pls?

ask

If you have an apache related question, please go ahead and ask it. We will not beat it out of you. We won't bite you either, at least until we get to know you better

yeah i am trying to remove the "index.php" from the URL

none of what you posted seems to do that.

i have a .htaccess, i have a .htpasswd too. i'm trying to make an authentication for a folder. htpasswd works with a password which is created by apache2triad pack. it's root:umutahmet and it has a hash... but i want to create new user and password. i tried many htpasswd generators and none of them works. they're all generates different hashes...

well i got it from mediawiki website..

waiting for solutions.

if you do a RewriteRule how exactly does that redirect? its not a client side 301 or something like that is it ?

can u help chaning it to that it should skip the index.php thing

I can give you a rule that will take that index.php out

user" for each new user

can't create on a website?
do i have to
launch this command?

why bother using a website when Apache comes with the very tool to create said files.

oh, I think I see the problem now

i don't know how to execute this command.

please...correct me

but
i have a question.

in the last two rules change where it says /wiki/ to just /

htpasswd -c /etc/httpd/conf/mypasswordfile Billy

i'm still having trouble getting php working. php files are being downloaded as application/x-httpd-php files. my conf is here: http://apache.pastebin.ca/595524. any ideas?

let me try

if i change my server, do i have to change my passwords. why all generators create different passwords? and why not none of them works?

php

php is a scripting 'language' that is enabled by loading mod_php and AddHandler application/x-httpd-php php or http://www.devside.net/articles/php

404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.

use AddHandler instead of AddType

m
I'd have to be there to tell. sorry.

1) use nick tab-completion. 2) do what I said; don't use a website generator.

remind me which version of Apache you're using

1) if i change my server, do i have to change my passwords. 2) why all generators create different passwords? 3)why not none of them works?

my nich starts with a R not a B
what do you mean "if I change my server" ?

oh sorry

2.2.4 (on solaris)

anyone else knows about URL rewrites ?????

if i move my site to another server, do i have to update passwords?

no.
x86 or sparc? (not that I think it matters)

sparc

so, why all of these password doesn't work?

I have no idea, but use the information I have just given you to create passwords that _do_ work.

with AddHandler application/x-httpd-php set, php files are downloaded

yes this works

php

php is a scripting 'language' that is enabled by loading mod_php and AddHandler application/x-httpd-php php or http://www.devside.net/articles/php

browser cache

Browser caches can be very persistent. Restarting the browser, or even rebooting, will not necessarily clear the cache. You must expressly clear the cache via the menus.

does httpd -M list the php module ?

i have 30 passwords to encrypt. this usage works well eh? it won't make a problem in your opinion..

anyone have any ideas why using a rev proxy would cause php files to generate a proxy error ?

LoadModule can be used in server config context, not in Virtualhost

what's the error_log say?

as long as you use the -c exactly once (to create the initial file.

k, i'll make sure the modules is set to load in the httpd.conf, but php5_module shows up in the module list

have you cleared your cache already?

thank you very much

not seeing anything ... hold changing log loc

i was working on this like for ~5hrs.

that's a shame.

next time, ask earlier

yeah, even after clearing the cache, php files are downloaded with the module loaded (via httpd.conf) and with AddHandler/x-httpd-php .php set (in virtual host)

AddHanler context
AddHandler context

what happens when you use lynx ?

server config, virtual host, directory, .htaccess

why do you set the handler in the vhost?

i've tried all Turkish irc rooms. but no one considered me.

well this is _the_ Apache help channel...

s/room/channel/

what do you mean??§

I mean replace room by channel.

good question. i should set it in server config

there are no 'rooms' on IRC. Only channels.
AOL has rooms.
try it
sample URL

Could you please give us a URL at which the behavior is demonstrated. This would help us troubleshoot the problem.

http://apache.pastebin.ca/595836

oh we call it room in turkey. you're right. this is freenode

most beginners and technophobes call it room, yes
doesn't mean it's right.

"room" is shorter than "channel". it does have that going for it.

yes, it's for beginners.

it makes you look like an idiot, and someone that has no idea how to use a computer

car is shorter than 'truck', but they're still completely different things

and all of the above are unrelated to Apache...

thanks everyone

ayep

bye,...

that mispractice irritates me. I felt compelled to correct him.

http://webmail.ece.drexel.edu

php is not parsed

does it really matter, when you knew exactly what he meant?

you must be editing the wrong config file, or editing it improperly
call it one of my pet peeves.

RoundCube is cool
but since you've divulged that, you're going to change all the passwords in config.php now aren't you wakejagr ?

yup

good man
Thomas Bruederli roundcube@gmail.com
thats irony if ever I seen it

uh, why?

roundcube is a webmail gateway

And?

they use gmail

Why can't they relay through gmail? Or backend use gmail?

to be honest if i didnt have enough money to make a reliable mailserver , Id go for gmail too .

the author of some Webmail software uses another Webmail provider for his email....

gmail is great.
we're debating using it for our domain.

Roobarb, I'm a hosting provider, and I have a gmail address I use also, for testing, or for mail that I don't want to go through my own systems, or for any dozen of other reasons. Why is this strange?

but you'd still advertise your self-hosted address to customers, no?

with AddType text/html .php, the file shows up differently, so i'm sure i'm editing the right file. i'm just not setting something up correctly. now if i could just figure out what i'm doing wrong . . .

Roobarb, It depends on what they need, and what I need. My email (and since I get zero spam, I'm happy to blurt it out) is @mycompany.com, which is completely unrelated to any emails@thatclients-domain.com, so why should they care?

AddType should NEVER be used to enable php

wakejagr, What is your AddHandler for that php resource?

anyone here familiar with cronolog?

yes - I use it all the time

AddHandler application/x-httpd-php .php

no, drop the dot from .php

hello, has anyone seen apache send an HTTP response line with version HTTP/2.0 before?

if you don't understand my point, don't worry yourself about it.

yeah, php is what i thought, someone had .php in there previously. doesn't seem to make a difference either way

hey, is there a way to parse out the virtual hosts?

weird, this must be someone's hacked apache server or scripts or something
HTTP/2.0 401 Unauthorized Exception

httpd -S

httpd -S tells you what your virtualhost configuration is.

Cyric, parse them out of what?
Yeah, that ^^

someone probably effed up the 401 page

hi there

http://apache.pastebin.ca/595884

parse them out of the piped log I guess

what is the directive that allows you to create vhosts ?

hmmm... ok

VirtualHost

VirtualHost is http://httpd.apache.org/docs-2.2/mod/core.html#virtualhost or http://httpd.apache.org/docs/vhosts/ also see VirtualHost *:80

no - cronolog isn't designed for that

anyone know know how RewriteRule

oh my

lets try that again

RewriteRule?

RewriteRule is http://httpd.apache.org/docs-2.0/mod/mod_rewrite.html#rewriterule or http://httpd.apache.org/docs/mod/mod_rewrite.html#rewriterule or http://httpd.apache.org/docs/mod/mod_rewrite.html#rewritelog or tricky, because .htaccess RewriteRule acts differently than httpd.conf (RTFM!)

vhost examples

Look at these for examples http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/Recipes/ExampleVhosts :: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/vhosts/examples.html :: http://httpd.apache.org/docs-2.0/vhosts/examples.html :: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/vhosts/examples.html

fajita is getting a workout

anyone know how RewriteRule redirects? is it a browser redirect ?

Use Redirect, not RewriteRule

ok, let me re-phrase my question... I have 500+ virtual hosts, we reached our 'open files' limit for logs I suppose, so we are trying this piped log thing in an attempt to mitigate the problems

but they are pointing to the same dyrectory

OK, alecs.

so we need to know which log entry is coming from where

if you use the [R] flag, its an external redirect. if you don't, its usually an internal redirect

Cyric, store logs in mysql

not an option

Cyric, Or increase file handles in sysctl

thanks thats what i neded

also *** sorry about that

tried that, nothing is working

./apachectl -t -D DUMP_VHOSTS
VirtualHost configuration:
Syntax OK

Cyric, did you verify that its working?

i have it set at 128,000 open files
how can I verify?

That's way too high

well, it wouldn't work at 32767

sysctl -a | grep fs.file

k
as apache?

as apache is using the owner account ?

or root?

Root is fun - I can play BOFH

What is the exact OS error you're receiving?
As root

k
brb

What is the exact OS error you're receiving?

actually, the error is something that I think is eluding us
hang on
fs.file-max = 393203
fs.file-nr = 3129 347 393203

cat /proc/sys/fs/file-nr
cat /proc/sys/fs/file-max

LOL solved .... *** commented line into httpd.conf

cat /proc/sys/fs/file-nr
=
3129 326 393203

with php set up in httpd.conf as follows: http://apache.pastebin.ca/595884 (module exists, and is loaded), i'm still not getting the php app to run. file opens in browser instead

Cyric, What OS is this? HPUX?

the other one is the 393203 num
RHEL 3

RHEL 3 is *2.0.46 http://eul0000727.eu.verio.net/blah

eek!

eek! is the server on doze too?

???

fajita, shush

hahah
hahahahah

Ok, so your file numbers are fine... log in as the apache user and do a 'ulimit -a'

or 'ulimit -f'

sorry was on a phone call, looking now

hmmmm
ok, here is hte -a

pastebot it
Don't paste it here
rafb.net/paste is a good choice

hmmm...
pastebot... i'm clueless
http://rafb.net/p/ICIjIC34.html
now, why the open files is still at 42k i'm not sure

both of those lines - are they in the main config ?

Yep, its set to unlimited.. so that's not th eproblem

cause i definitely uppped that

yes

The problem is something else
You're chasing shadows

i know and I hate it

42k for open files is fine, if it never has exceeded it
What is the exact OS error you're receiving?

wait

beats ms

i had it set at 32k
then we tried adding another log file

Who cares, its not the issue

for a new virtual host
and thats when apache wouldn't restart after adding it

where did you get mod_php from ?

What is the exact OS error you're receiving?!!

if we comment the log line out
DAMNIT THERE IS NO ERROR

If you won't listen, I can't help

thats what I am getting at

no worries, i fixed that issue by removing snmp support from php as i do not have it installed yet

Error 0?

actually, the error is something that I think is eluding us

unless you can tell me some mystical log file i am missing

Cyric, LogLevel deubg
er, debug

Check the root-level error.log

i am getting a new error "libgcc_s.so.1 must be installed for pthread_cancel to work" however it is installed so

ok, i'll paste bot this section of the log... it really doesn't seem to say much, but I haven't done the debug stuff yet
http://rafb.net/p/qr7pu936.html
thats in between the two starts
one failed, we comment out the log file entry, then start and it starts fine

Comment out a different vhost's log entry, and see if it does the same thing

so comment out one that is working, and see if the new one will start?

or uncomment the new entry

Leave them all uncommented (which you say breaks), and then comment out one of the working vhosts
Identify if its the number of logs, or the number of vhosts

gotcha
brb

what mpm are you using?

worker

worker is http://httpd.apache.org/docs-2.0/mod/worker.html or a multi-threaded MPM for Apache 2.x

ok, so, if I uncomment everything it breaks, if I uncomment the virtual host, but comment the logfile, it works

I think we're confused

on the server running php? or just the reverse proxy?
oops

oops is an understatement... :P

on the server running php? or just the reverse proxy?

Cyric, If you uncomment every single log, it breaks... as you state. Now comment out some _unrelated_ vhost's log entries, not the last one that you added, but some other one that currently works.
For example...

gotcha

If you added vhost #501, and it breaks, comment out the logs for vhost #23

will do

And see if it works

I'm skeptical that this is a Linux issue, or even an Apache issue, but it might be a misconfiguration issue
But then again, you are running RHEL3, which is a joke, and quite old

how can i fix this ? "Invalid command 'php_admin_value', perhaps misspelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration
"

php_admin_value

php_admin_value is a way to force php configurations to change for specific locations. See also http://www.php.net/configuration.changes

^^ and ##php

heh, im working off http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/Recipes/Different_UserIDs_Using_Reverse_Proxy
worker is set on all of them but they share the same process

ok, did that

I meant, are you running worker on both the reverse proxy and the backend server you are proxying to?

Cyric, and with a global LogLevel debug setting, what does the global error.log state?

doing the scenario you said, it breaks with everything uncommented, adding the error log for #501 and commenting #23 makes it work again

i am unsure, i 'think' both

is there something else i could be missing that would cause php files be downloaded? http://apache.pastebin.ca/595884 has the relevant lines from my httpd.conf file. is that all that needs to be set for php files to be executed?

Ok, so that's a clue..

ok, setting the loglevel, if I set this to debug on a production server, isn't that a bad thing?

wakejagr, AddHandler, AddType
Cyric, Not really, you're only doing it momentarily

and does the error show up on the reverse proxy, or the backend servers logs?

ok
how do i set it, via the main config?

It'll slow down slightly, but who cares, its better to solve the problem than not

i agree

Yes, LogLevel debug goes in the main config

will do, brb

what should my AddType setting be for php? i've got AddHandler.

wakejagr, first, what does 'php -i' show at the shell? Anything?

fajita join #mepis

huh?

fajita hi

hey, ed__.

fajita kiss

Keep it simple, stupid! or complex setups (e.g. with rewriterules) are hard to debug

fajita kiss me

huh?

ed__, please stop

ok, we are now running with debug level

scripts

scripts is there

log level

log level is set to debug

Right, so now stop and start the server after uncommenting the log entries that break it, and watch the log

crap! php is not in the path

i dont have them separated ... let me do that

will do

wakejagr, It doesn't need to be, for mod_php to function
wakejagr, I asked you to do that to see if php itself was working

anyone in here able to help me with a mod_python question real quick ?

wutang3, just ask

ok. it works: outputs information about what was compiled in, etc

are you running two apache instacnes on the same machine?

wakejagr, right, good.

rici script does not work very well in that guide
no
well yes
lol

http://rafb.net/p/v9BAKK67.html

oh cool, I didnt see what guide you were following

http://apache.pastebin.ca/index.php
http://apache.pastebin.ca/595932

i have index.py, and monitor.py where monitor.py is a module, index.py handles the requests... when index.py starts, it imports monitor.py and for some reason a function in monitor.py is being called... i have a function Monitor.SendAndReceive(self, request) and it is being called with "" as the argument to SendAndReceive... any ideas why this would get automatically called? i could see a constructor getting called but not a member function in class Monit

Cyric, did you make the corrections indicated?

connections? you mean set the error log and try to start it and make it break?

where did you get mod_php from ?

if so yes

wutang3, Sounds like a great question for #python

err, corrections*

Cyric, StartServers, ServerLimit, etc.

no, not yet

so i guess i am starting n+1 instances of apache...
should i be using prefork or something

i have libphp5.so, but it was installed by someone working on this before me. should i look into getting a new version of that?

yes, probably for the server instance that you are loading php on

no, I'm wondering how it was built

Cyric, ServerLimit 1024, StartServers 50, MaxClients 512

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