uI did a clean install of Fedora 7. When I log in using KDE I
have no problems, but when I try using gnome, I can't always.
Sometimes just my background and a cursor come up, and sometimes a
blank gnome-panel shows as well. When I AM able to use gnome, I
have to restart the X server hosting a
couple times (ctrl+alt+bksp) before everything shows. When I try to
restart the computer, it will close the gnome-panel and then just
sit until I log in/u
hodges, rpm -V {pygtk2,yumex}
doesn't display anything
the curly braces and comma are superfluous there btw
what was that supposed to do?
Anyone?
hodges, then it's bugzilla time
verify packages integrity
mmk
do i need to restart x after installing packages? I installed 7zip
with yum and it isn't showing up
wolsni, right
does 7zip have a GUI on linux hosting now?
dunno
I cou ld make one for .NET but unfortunately .NET isn't for
linux
i don't think 7zip has a GUI on non-Windows systems
well that's a damn shame
wouldn't be that hard
uh, mono
the go do it.
but ark (the kde archive manager) can act as a frontend for
it
I don't know linux at all though
probably gnome's file-roller too
that's cool, can it handle rars to?
ark cann
*too
word
I like winrar so much I actually bought it
and that's rare
waht's even rarer is me ever seeing a windows system ever
booted again
7, and it mostly works. However the network won't configure
itself correctly using DHCP. It thinks for a while, and decides on
the (wrong) address 169.254.*.* with no route. Anyone else had a
similar problem?
that's like asking me to go to church
and pray to some hairy guy in the clouds to "save me"
169 is what happens when it can't establish DHCP
check the connection to your router
yum was improved! 'yum install unarj' installs 'arj' !
I guess the connection to the router is good, since I am using
it now from another computer through the same switch.
hodges, yum install unrar
(from livna)
have you tried another cable?
What do you have against hairy guys?
hey. I'm attempting to sign an rpm and I'm getting an invalid
passpharse, yet when I issue this gpg --sign /tmp/t1.txt and it
asks for the passphrase which is the same for the previous rpm
signing process the gpg commands succeeds. ideas?
Using its cable now. :-)
I have not found anything about this particular problem on
fedoraforum.org. :-(
on a dell laptop, how do i make fn+esc suspend the computer,
and fn+F1 hibernate? it worked in FC6
anybody knows where can i get rar for f7?
your computer is having trouble obtaining an dedicated ip hosting address
from your router
nothing, but i don't pray to them
freshrpms.net
whitehat, it's not there
Aha. Could it be that it is asking in the wrong way?
does your router have secrutiy settings that would prevent it
from obtaining an address? do you have a weird firewall on your
computer?
if anything religions are elaborate fables designed to teach
people who are having trouble finding a moral compass in the
world
not to be taken as "fact"
try a static
host IP on the interface and verifying you actually have
connectivity
I'm n ot sure how it could ask in the wrong way
this ends here
ah. I think the fc6 will work with fc7. there is a note in the
release notes re the fc6, fc7 tag.
what ends?
im guessing its one of two things. the eithernet drvier is no
longer working, or the network cable/port are failing
whitehat, thnx a lot
k.
most likely the latter, as you're claiming it working in FC6
previously
it should just work, does the laptop suspend ok when you dont
use the fn key?
are you saying you wish to kick me out?
feel free.
make it last though
The port light is blinking, when NetworkManager is looking
for an address, and the router does work for another computer, so I
would guess, that it is the driver, which is the problem
then.
in which case you'll see messages in /var/log/messages
whoever just messaged me .. i don't take requests ..
sorry
have you tried a static ip/route already?
Hrm. I didn't mean to open that can of worms. fsck: I was simply
trying to stay awake. No worries.
heh .. doesn't matter to me .. i cannot be offended
(I'm a hairy guy)
taking offense to anything is a weakness
so is being a blowhard
hehe
i'm hairy too.. let's start a coven
Did not think about /var/log/messages, thanks. I am not sure how
to do the static address. I don't have access to the
router.
its not in the router. you know the subnet range and gateway
address of the lan. open /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
and do it by hand aas a BOOTPROTO=static, or run
system-config-network
Heh, I was called an Ass the other day by a guy who didn't
like having the facts presented to him. While his peers looked on
in disbelief at his arguement and name calling I broke up the room
with "Well, perhaps I am an ass but if you think it's tough living
with one try living without one".
guzu, yum install rar, yum install unrar
from livna
ferrum, what i can say is that is not yet avail for
f7
has anyone run into a problem where ananconda when running from
a kickstart file just flat out ignores what the dhcp server gave it
for an ip and picks something else?
ferrum, but thank you anyway
guzu, it is available, I have it installed.
ferrum, that is strange, what says rpm -q rar
?
i don't see a rar package in livna
unrar-3.7.5-1.lvn7
just unrar
ferrum, cause yum list rar says nothing
oh, rar? didn't check that.
aah
ok
yes, rar is not available.
i'm fine with command line
just thought 7zip would have a GUI for some reason
someh ow I have a feeling programming in linux may be significantly
h arder or else i'd make one
rpm -ql 7zip | grep bin
uh, mono
7zip has no gui under linux, the author wrote code in a
microsoft specific fashion for the gui portions
?
mono is a reimplementation of .NET for linux
oh
first, to find out the 7zip binaries, then see wolsni
comment
word i'll have to check it out later
hodges, coding GUIs is very, very easy.
QT has QTDesigner, GTK has Glade
so how come nobody else has?
hodges, we have no need for a gui that does nothing but 7zip
compression/decompression.
hi there ....can someone help me? LYNX is not working on my
command line
in the case of 7zip it's because they are porting someone elses
software and that someone write ms specific gui code. It would be a
rewrite each time and would be the suck.
is it installed?
checkgrrl, sure. what's it saying?
where is ark under the menu?
checkergrrl*
lynx command not found
"command not found?" A: Run the command AS ROOT after
switching users with "su --login" or "su -" in order to get root's
command PATH so the command WILL be found; don't run "su" by
itself. If it's still not found, then either it's not installed in
a standard path location (echo $PATH), is not executable (chmod
a+x), is in your current dir (./runme), or you've spelled it
incorrectly.
hodges, I use Gnome, sorry :x
checkergrrl, yum install elinks
then use elinks
it would be simple enough to pass arguments to the command
line program. it wouldn't be as pretty but it would be
effective
or.. if you really want lynx.. yum install lynx
(we have lynx also iirc, but elinks is more up-to-date)
lynx is non gui browser right?
wait wait....should i got with zcat or ferrum?
hodges, it is gui.
i got to answers
i chose to install it with fedora but didn't see it
i am running FC6
checkergrrl, su -c "yum install lynx"
*don't see it
^ go with that.
yes, presuming that the cl-program doesn't changes it's args
or formats. It's an unusual situation with 7zip really.
k ferrum
how do i get to ark?
it's part of the kdeutils package
I remember one program that could do zips tarballs, 7zip and
several other things but i can't remember the name
ark is in kdeutils
so yum install kdeutils (even if you aren't really using
kde)
utilities/file/ark archiving tool
hodges, file-roller
i just needed to know where it was in the menu
don't think i've used that
guzu, he's on KDE.
file-roller is Gnome equivalent.
i see
hodges, have you installed 7zip or p7zip?
p7zip
ark doesn't give me the option though
hodges, thnx
for what?
wtf ark can create rar archives? i thought only winrar could
and 7zip, wasn't giving me the pulldown menu before
hmm, time for some final words, before rebooting this fc6 going
fc7 install
hodges, why would you think only winrar can create rars
o_O
or do I need to install winrar before it'll create rar
files?
BULLE, nice knowing you
i've never seen one other program that could create rars
tar, jar, tar.gz, 7z etc
=D
but never .rar
hodges, propose how you will go about installing winrar
no need if ark can make them
well, with some luck, you will see me again in a few
minutes
hodges, file-roller can create .7z
yeah but 7z is open sourc
want rar? http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail/1053350629/2
there ya go
ark basically just runs the commandline tools
can someone help me debug an NFS issue? I have a machine
exporting a directory that is used by MythTV to store its video
files. Works fine for the most part. However after a the remote
machine can not access the directory, and top on the NFS server
machine shows 5 or 6 nfsd processes in 'uninterruptable sleep' (D)
only a physical power cycle can get me past this. Any ideas where
to start debugging?
there's rar for linux
web hosting on the rar site just not gui
that's what I thought which is why I was asking if I needed
winrar already
you need the rar commandline tool
It's a Fedora 6 machine, BTW
mtnbkr-laptop: do you use the 'soft' and 'intr' options when
you mount the on the client?
not sure I can check though
Is there a way to test my internet connection speed without
using my browser to do it?
Hey all
mtnbkr-laptop: If you have neither than then NFS is instructed
to pretend that nfs mount is a real disk and will never let go or
return an error.
Fc5 here, what's the easiest way to update to fc7 w/o fresh
format?
for some reason if you go to NEW (in ark) it has 2 options
for rar archives
rsize=8192,wsize=8192
on the client
Andyman53, format and install.
ack...
mtbkr-laptop: add ,soft to that. If the nfs falls down the
client will get an error and the nfs service handler will not hang
like that.
think of it as spring cleaning
:-\
I will add those options to the client., but that is not my
real issue. on the nfs server, when this issue is occurring top
shows all the nfsd processes as 'D' and a sync command deom the
fommand line never finishes, and a shutdown never completes, hence
the required power-cycle
technically you could upgrade to fc6 then to f7, but it
probably won't even work and will likely be an even greater waste
of your time.
mtbkr-laptop: the default is unfortunate, older software didn't
deal with the concept of their 'disk' going away. hence the
server
hosting gets kernel locked.
probably.
Anyone know a way to test my connections speed without using
something like dslreports.com?
mtbkr-laptop: give it a try, you may be surprised. Probably
you have some other network issue that's problematic but at least,
this way, you'll see it.
i really like speakeasy.net/speedtest
can i wipe out the OS w/o wiping the partition?
ferrum is right. i tried the upgrade from fc6 and had probs with
vid. my clean install of f7 was tons better
don't i have to browse there
?
Andyman53, if your home dir and OS are on different partitions,
sure.
you should be able to wipe out the OS without the partition
yes do you not have a browser?
kparted to make a logical part to save all my stuffs?
and if they aren't, now would be a good time to make sure
they are
i do, but i want to see true speed, and browser can affect
it
I don't know about that
I always make backups before removing an OS or changing a
partition
-- is Andy too
robbins876, there is no such thing as "true speed"
--- the backup computer with samba shares
burn to cd/dvd
ok, so I'll try adding intr and soft to the nfs client
machine and remount.... THEN I will be back when the nfs server
acts up again.
true
lynx installation still running
checkergrrl, wow that's... taking a while o_O
hah, just gonna off it to another box
and wipe it out lol
Andyman53, make sure to verify integrity after transfer
true
mtnbkr-laptop: fair enough, especially because I go home
soon
well ... I don't know what finally did it, but its up
for the record, I had (for some reason) removed the 127.0.0.1
line from /etc/hosts
Does anyone have experience with SATA drives and software
RAID1? I've been doing software RAID1 with IDE and SCSI for years
without any problems. But I'm having all kinds of problems with
SATA drives.
I have 2 sata drives but never messed with RAID, sorry
adding that back (in full) , and setting localhosts.localdomain
in /etc/sysconfig/network seemed to do the trick...
however...
why was my connection just reset?
facefaceface, Yes.
Yeah, SATA works OK, it's the RAID that doesn't. :-(
I didn't manually add a route, but its looking good now
talexb, indeed
what's the linux equivelant of the windows ipconfig
command?
ifconfig
hodges, dang
you have to be quick around here
whoa, did facefaceface grow another face?
hold on mock
Hi all! need help. running fedora6 (update from 5 online) on
ps3 and connected to old tv. Many buttons end up outside/below my
screen. What are my options?
ifconfig: command not found
"command not found?" A: Run the command AS ROOT after
switching users with "su --login" or "su -" in order to get root's
command PATH so the command WILL be found; don't run "su" by
itself. If it's still not found, then either it's not installed in
a standard path location (echo $PATH), is not executable (chmod
a+x), is in your current dir (./runme), or you've spelled it
incorrectly.
I'm trying to download fedora through a mirror and was
wondering if this is the correct image?
/sbin/ifconfig
um..... /linux/releases/7/Fedora/x86_64/iso
i did run it as root
stupid bot
is that the correct path?
/sbin/ifconfig
use sha1sum and check it
do you have a 64 bit processor?
and i'm pretty sure there should be a /images directory
somewhere in there
amd athlon 64 x2 3800+ ;p
oh
I was mute
well... thanks dudes
hm... i don't see an /images DIR. http://fedora.mirror.facebook.com/linux/
i thought i was seeing double
mock, nope, just the two faces here
bye now
anyone know how to find out what physical drives compose a
raid array using the aic79xx module?
dunno i just torrented the iso thhen did a network
install
can anyone help me configure a hda-intel Conexant Wakiki ICH7
sound card to work with alsa?
put some butter on it. maybe some jelly. a lot of people like
salmon and cream cheese on their croiscants
hodges, ha-ha.
hrm...can i connect to multiple servers in konversation?
or is there a better client I should get?
hi, anyone come across a program to do a simple slideshow
with captions. idieally I want to dump some photos in a folder with
a text file and just click through the photos and have the text
come up - it's just for showing holiday photos without going
through the same thing with ever relative :-)
brb
what is the default username/password for tomcat host admin
on fc6? running stock fc6 tomcat
read your tomcat-users.xml
thanks
by default there are no users with role manager
i'm brand new to tomcat. literally just started it for the
first time ever. can i log in with tomcat/tomcat as indicated in
that file?
I'm attempting to sign an rpm with either --sign or --addsign
but I continue to review invalid passphrase, yet when I run gpg
--sign it works. ideas?
how do i install an ati video card on FC7?
http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-5.0-doc/manager-howto.html
have you got livna repo installed?
thanks JohnMahowald
not sure if i have the correct one
are you one of the fedora devs?
livna won't help, fglrx is busted on F7
oh...ouch
i couldn't figure out on FC6 either though
there must be a way
try with the open driver?
open driver?
the one linux found?
its no good
tomyou, from what I understood the f7 ati/amd driver is
busetd... and ati does not plan on releasing a new one soon...
so...
i could never get it working on FC6 either, i think ati and
linux just don't do well together
tomyou, you could try this with f7 http://fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=155503&page=4
tomyou, it worked for some people...
thank you
i really appreciate it
I have a directory called /home/group that is shared across a
bunch of client PCs, and I have a new thumbdrive. I want to mount
that thumbdrive to /home/group/whatever so that it'll also share
with the current /home/group shared mount. How?
I'm using CentOS
Is there an irc channel on this or another server for
Thunderbird help (for the thunderbird that comes with Fedora
7)?
I am trying to install Steam via wine and I am getting this
error message http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/800/screenshoterrorfi3.png
I am trying to install Steam via wine and I am getting this error
message a href="http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/800/screenshoterrorfi3.png"http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/800/screenshoterrorfi3.png/a
JKnife, "access denied," think why it could be denied
access.
chown it maybe.
what is the problem?
5
it isn't permissions
this is the one and only Fedora user channel, feel free to fire
away, no need to ask
JKnife, you followed the HOWTO on fedorasolved.org ?
no, valves wiki
JKnife, www.fedorasolved.org
ferrum ...it worked
thanks
welcome
i made a user, while tomcat was stopped. tried to log in, can't
accesss
Hey guys, I was wondering if any of you could help resolve an
issue I'm having with a Fedora server that requires a force
shutdown/reboot
s/access/"access denied"
frozty_sa, a system user?
nope..should it be one?
I have no experience with tomcat *shrug*
the system hangs at shutdown
JohnMahowald pointed me to a tomcat page as well as
/etc/tomcat5/tomcat-users.xml
ferrum, samething
i'm supposed to create the user in that file, and then
(re)start the server. try to login and it swears at me
they also need the manager role
the one i made had standard and manager role?
the msi works
not the exe.. strange
can anybody help me with my reboot problem?
what i want to do is test zk (zkdemo specifically), but now i
can't get into the administration page where it asks for user/pass
even..
you seem to know a lot, would you mind helping me?
at which point does it hang?
I need help mounting a thumb drive I have
it hangs at the very end of the reboot script
k. do you maybe know with what which service or so it
hangs?
as in, what's the last thing to run that then hangs
Kage, doesn't it automount?
hello. why was "core" dropped from fedora 7?
because core and extras were merged
oh? interesting. this is part of the "spins" concept?
are there docs on creating your own spin? (admittedly, i haven't
looked)
yum install revisor
thanks
no problem
so ive gone through 3 dvd's trying to burn the image to them,
i checksummed the .iso and its fine (even its own checker in the
install process works in parallels) but it keeps fucking up when
writing to the dvd, what should I do different?
it doesn't hang on a service, all the services are already
shut off when it hangs
that's part of the problem
imMute, The machine you're burning from, is it busy?
yes..that is pretty odd
imMute, Laternatively, see if you can change the drive or the
brand of DVDs that you're using.
what command would you use to reboot?
ive tried reboot and shutdown -r
its got 2 GB of ram, and its not like im doing any cpu or hd
intensive things
would burning at 2x or 4x make it more reliable?
you can also try to see if it's maybe something dodgy by
specifying that it shouldn't go through any scripts
i'm not quite sure how to do that, mind helping me?
hang on, will give the command now
imMute, Yeah, try burning at the slowest possible speed --
that might help.
ok
shutdown -r -n now
I've got a question about cron .. what freaking attributes
does FC6 want for the files in /etc/cron.d?
I had a file that was 755, and change that to 600, and that
doesn't appear to work.
alright, ill try that after it finishes the update, ill let
you know how that goes
balright, ill try that after it finishes the update, ill let you
know how that goes/b
k
my sympathies
because i know that feeling..fc6 initial install trying to
update from dvd (and that was not supported..and yum can't just
nicely tell you what went wrong)
bbecause i know that feeling..fc6 initial install trying to update
from dvd (and that was not supported..and yum can't just nicely
tell you what went wrong)/b
I tried mounting my USB thumb drive, but /dev/sda* are all not
working
What now?
Kage[Work]: is the usb-storage module loaded?
Kage[Work], Hmm, when I plug mine in the USB port it just ..
works.
Kage[Work]: and what's dmesg spitting out regarding the
device?
What kernel are you using? I think it has to be a 2.6.x
version.
Lemme see...
I'm using Centos 4.3 I think
lol
uname -a will tell you what kernel.
2.6.9
And...
Centos 4.3 Final
Kage[Work]: jeez buddy, you ever hear of yum update?
2.6.9....that's about fc4~5 round, isn't it?
Not my machine to upgrade :/
Centos 4 is built off RH 4 which is FC5
I'm using 2.6.3 with my USB key, so your version is probably OK
.. but we need to see about the USB sub-system ..
Kage[Work]: looks like sda1 is your device. what's the
problem?
http://pastebin.ca/565041
sda1 is not my device...
I tried mounting it, and it's some data I have no idea
of..
Kage[Work]: nah, sdi is
sdi is the device?
Kage[Work]: so it's mounted and you don't know what the data is?
I fail to see what the problem is then
8GBUSB
What I see are Windows files
Kage[Work], I tried lsusb and it told me what was mounted on my
USB ports ..
(which confuses me)
some proprietary garbage set up on the windows machine for
accessing the usb drive?
did you search through the device to see if your file is in there
somewhere?
I don't have lsusb
Yes
It's some odd DOS partition on a linux machine
..which really confuses me..?
Huh...
Kage[Work]: and you're sure it's the right device? have you put
back on the windows machine?
hallo
tag
8GBUSB
I formatted it to fat32
So there should be one thing on it
That file
And it is not sdi, either
Nor is it sda1
WAIT
Found it
is there some simpla way of enablind wpa wireless support in
fc7 ?
or should i just dont bother with the gui tools, and just hack the
needed lines into rc.local ?
Ok, one more question.. How do I mount my flash drive so
everyone can use it?
uOk, one more question.. How do I mount my flash drive so
everyone can use it?/u
hrm...can yum install dosbox?
ok, i assume the wireless stuff is still broken beyond
repair, and will just hack it into rc.local
and yumex still isn't working
I use a wireless access poitn as a client
works pretty well
and no drivers required
oh boy thunder
yes captain sunshine?
hrm...
wonder where dosbox installed
rpm -ql dosbox
or "whereis dosbox"
Please help meoes Fedora have "gtkmm-dev" package on it's CD or
DVD?
ramanK, there is bitgtkmm-devel
i was hoping there was a shortcut on the menu too
thanks
can't figure out how to run dosbox
much easier in windows adds a start menu and shortcut
oh duh just type "dosbox"
Any idea why glibc-common.fc6 might be conflicting with
rpcbind.fc7?
Try updating to the f7 glibc at the same time
A file may have moved between the two packages
just upgraded to FC7, and have an invisible mouse. Can anyone
save me the frustration of trying to find the fix with an invisible
mouse?
buy an invisible keyboard to match
tnkx
i had a similar problem on a laptop and I had turned off the
scroll feature on the touchpad, turned it on and mouse
worked
mac^^^: not the case
ok
yeah. ctrl-alt-f1. fix your xorg conf. ctrl-alt-f7.
ctrl-alt-backspace
then your mouse will work
Ok... I got a problem...
will try
so I run `yum upgrade glibc-common rpcbind` ?
i wouldnt realy mix fc6 and fc7
Try just plain 'yum upgrade'
that's what I did :/
I have /dev/sdi1 as my flashdrive on a server.. /home/group
is already mounted across all client machines. I want to mount
/dev/sdi1 on /home/group/flash so that all users can use it
But it's not working for me
I'll move up to FC7 eventually :P
Are you trying to use yum to do a live-update of an FC6
system to F7?
better do it right now
regrettably
yumex still isn't working something about gtk missing but i have
gtk
you most likely havent got the right gtk+ version or gtk+python
binding
that shouldnt be a problem realy
Don't do that.
I really don't have another option, Sopwith.
rpms for fc7 havent been designed to work with fc6 rpms
There's always another option to doing stupid stuff..
so you are bound to get into trouble
I don't plan on mixing them, I plan on moving them all up
:P
why is there no other option ? what are you trying to do
then do a proper fc6 to fc7 uppgrade, all in one go
hm... can I force yum to ignore dep problems
It's OK to experiment, but when you don't follow the
recommended procedure, please don't expect it to work.
now that is a VERY stupid thing to do
That's what I'm doing
does printing to a network printer require CUPS?
Sure, and you can also rm -rf /, but it's not a good
idea.
its probably going to fail
I've a problem with my display and don't know where to start?
I've tried re-installing the latest drivers but to no avail, the
picture is all broken and streaked. It's a NVidia card?
upgraded fc6, done a yum clean-all then installed the fedora7
noarch rpm, then done a yum upgrade ?
yesir.
and youll be left with a broken, unstable OS. youll have to
resintall the system from cd again
doing fc6 to fc7 upgrade via yum seems to work pretty
well
I'm aware of the risks. And yes, many people have reported
success in upgrading
those who aren't using the old device libs anyway
does printing to a network printer require CUPS?
doesnt f7 update glibc?
No
it does
Kage[Work]: how can i set that up? the sys-config-printer
tool seems to not work unless CUPS is installed and
running
hehe. best of luck to you then
FC7 update now...
i have done it on three machines, during the last days
so how do I get the right version?
and it works well, doesn't it?
im running it on THIS machine
sure
You're not getting any weird dependency errors for
glibc?
no, not yet
neither did i
have you used any third part repositories
have you updated your FC6 packages to the latest
versions?
nope. cPanel has been kicking in every once in a while,
though there are no conflicts there
yes
CUPS might be needed to communicate to a printer over a
network, but I don't have mine running through any CUPS config that
I know of
bulle is right, as long as your system is totally contained in
yum, a update *should* go smooth
i dont know then, this is a relatively new install of
FC6
same here
Mine just connects to the printer's IP directly and sends
postscript raw data.. nothing is setup in CUPS
specifically
I just brought this system from FC5 to FC6 today
lol
Kage[Work]: can i ask you how you set it up?
ye, third party repositories will fuck things up
only solution is to uninstall third party stuff realy
so how do I get the right version?
yah. or, if your like me and have a bunch of custom rolled
rpm's and have apache/php installed from source.... an upgrade like
that... *boom*
that i dont know
uninstall yumex, then install it again ?
hope that it will draw in missing dependencies ?
Hi there, can any1 help me with downloading drivers for my
gfx card?? ATI Radeon X1700??
Uhh, dunno.. just used Fedora's printer setup
arg
Kage[Work]: everytime i use that it requests that CUPS be installed
and running
I'll try that, thanks
hey there, got an issue on one of my boxes, installed fc7 and
after reboot post install stuff should appear but my monitor turn
off. I guess that I should change resolution and so on but can't
even go to command line...
Cannot remember if I used networked CUPS or networked
Linux
(process:28251): Gtk-WARNING (recursed) **: could not load
image: Icon 'document-new' not present in theme
gah
that's the error btw
file /usr/sbin/rpcinfo from install of rpcbind-0.1.4-6.fc7
conflicts with file from package
glibc-common-2.5-10.fc6
Hi there, can any1 help me with downloading drivers for my
gfx card?? ATI Radeon X1700??
i have another drive in my computer that is formatted to
fat32 i believe, when i had ubuntu, i was able to see it and use
the files within, but with fedora i'm not able to. Is there a way
to see that file and use the files within again with fedora or
not?
is glibc-common supposed to come in two versions?
shankysv87, you should just mount the partition, should I
point you to some FAQ?
anyone know where the listing config for the save/open dialog
box is ?
i don't know how to mount a partition i cannot see.
my userid is being listed twice for some reason
http://www.bobpeers.com/linux/mount#mountingFAT
or this one: http://fedorasolved.org/post-install-solutions/add-new-hdd/
it's not that hard and when you'll check it out you can do it
automagically during boot
Hi there, can any1 help me with downloading drivers for my
gfx card?? ATI Radeon X1700??
i cant find that card...
facedancer, for some reason it says that i don't have
permissions. How do i have full permissions, like an admin.. i have
root password.
2secs, lemme double check
is it based on the X1600
ATI Radeon x1300 Pro
ah
sorry
http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeon.html
np
is it easy 2 install?
i am migrated some home directories from an FC6 system to F7.
Now the ls -Z /home shows root:object_r:user_home_dir_t for
migrated users and system_u:object_r:user_home_dir_t
for others
How might I change these?
The chcon command?
i've never tried, but it seems to be a binary, so i'd assume
so
you can use the "su -" command to switch to a root
shell
hmm
there is a new version of xorg in F7, ATi drivers don't work
with it yet
riczho - chcon is not on the system
ok ty wolsni
riczho, i take that back. it is there but no man entry.
sorry
wolsni says there is a new version of xorg that does not work
with the ATI drivers
soooo, it wont work then?
you can install the xorg packages from FC6 and use the ATi
driver with that, i think that's the workaround
I don't have an ATi card, i was simply advising him as to the
location of the drivers
but thank's for the advice
616/1790 updates done =-)
what did you do, install from the original FC6 cds?
unless the ISO's online are updated, yes
you may want to grab the respins next time
respins?
http://fedoraunity.org/re-spins
respins of the fedora installer with updated packages
man, I sure am missing gnome-cups-manager.
i see
hopefully i wont have to reinstall on this server :-D
Hmm, I guess I can kill my torrent now.. 2.5 ratio
hello
how do youplay rmvb files on F7?
man, I'm not good at setting up a windows-shared network
printer without gnome-cups-manager.
I'm sure I got the printer working fine under fc6.
I guess I've relied on gnome-cups-manager for so long and now,
it doesn't appear to be around anymore.
I use SystemAdministrationPrinting, try to add a printer, but
I'm not sure what to specify when it asks for the smb://
name
uI use SystemAdministrationPrinting, try to add a printer, but
I'm not sure what to specify when it asks for the smb://
name/u
if you're looking for a network printer's addy, how would you find
it? Is there some app/command that shows you which printers or
devices are available on the lan?
hi
i need help with fedora core 5, ATI drivers and DRI
thingfish, I have a small network so I just use nmap
hey folks, just did an upgrade from FC6-FC7 via DVD and now my
system has kinda blew up on me
http://reasonablyinteresting.com/~jokker/kernelerror.jpg
would anyone happen to have any suggestions of fixing this
problem? I've tried as much as I can figure out, rebuilt the initrd
both by hand and with mkinitrd
booting off the rescue disk works fine as far as disk detection
goes
__joker on some system the hard drive is not found due to
libdata wanting all drives to be sdX and changing hda drives to
sda
ok so I reinstalled yumex and same error, (process:28310):
Gtk-WARNING (recursed) **: could not load image: Icon
'document-new' not present in theme
so do I need gnome installed?
i have a system i am having the same type of problems with
one of my machine the rest are working fine
yeah I had read about this but I do have the proper labeling
in place and I also tried setting up the fstab entries with
/dev/sdX as well, no luck
even going into the initrd and forcing it to use /dev/sdX
doesn't seem to work either
__joker i am staying on fc6 on that one box till the problem
can be fixed with updates then i will do a respin
In need of 2 issues.. been racking my head for 1 week
straight with. One deals with FTP not authenticating (used many
servers) the other deals with Starting HAL Daemon
hanging.
Mindlab, try acpi=off on the grub kernelline
Spoke with devs for proftpd and others.. they tell me it has to
be a problem with FC7 messing up libc.. but then I tried several
other FTP daemons, with the same 530 errors.
kk I will figure out how and try that
lol
Is anyone here do dual monitors with Fedora 7 and a single
Nvidia card
boot/grub/grub.conf right?
yep
kernelline in that
done, rebooting but it will probably hang at Starting HAL daemon
again.. this just started happening last reboot and I have no idea
why
is this a x64 system
no.
ok
i had another switch to try if it was
see yeah I cant boot this
Starting AVAHI Daemon... FAILED... Staring HAL daemon....
hangs
kill the Avanti
boot using the FC7 dvd.. mount sysimage, startx?
got it thanks!
I have no idea how to kill Avahi
is there a way to make my user the root privilages
permanent?
with su
sudo
i mean
enter as root
write visudo
is there a way to make programs i install in fc6 - berry
create an icon in the menu bar?
bis there a way to make programs i install in fc6 - berry create an
icon in the menu bar?/b
menu bar not most are in the menu
is the apps are part of the fedora
what I have been doing was booting dvd... recue.. then
mounting sysimage to /mnt/sysimage and firing up startx
thanks VileGent
Mindlab, why
b/c I know not what else to do lol
Mindlab, how did you download that dvd.iso
Starting HAL freezes
My system was fine a few mins ago.. server on it.. all sorts of
working perfectly.
Mindlab, how did you download that dvd.iso
hrm.;..ark says unrar is not installed though i installed it
through yum
unrar is a cli app not a gui
yeah but ark says it isn't installed
and it is
I grabbed it from a mirror awhile back... system was running
fine all day.. have had it 100% over the last week or more.
just came up with this avahi failed, hal daemon freeze a couple
mins ago.
so should i try from an rpm?
did you get the checksums of the iso before you burnt it
no no no
hodges, yum is from rpm
yes.
and the sha1sums matched?
The utility unrar is not in your PATH.
it was a good package, yes.
Please install it or contact your system administrator.
so how do I kill avahi?
boot
type I and manuall turn it off
it hangs on boot.
manually
could somone explain what this means? Cannot open/read
repomd.xml file for repository: livna
so is there something I missed or is it just being
uncooperative?
where is this repomd.xml?
levi bad mirror
its the mirror i got from the livna site
unrar
from teh rpm
oops wrong keybord
hodges chill a minute
lev1, ame -r
mk
I am @ shell right now in the mnt/sysimage
uname -r rather
kk
the source is offered if that helps, i'ma go smoke a
cigarette
Mindlab, boot off the hard drive
2.6.20-berry
sh-3.2# (/mnt/sysimage/)
wth is that
its built on fc6
it wont boot off the hard drive.. it hanfgs on Starting HAL
Daemon.. this is the problem.
custom kernels we cant help with
yeah, hmmm, bummer on that count, but wouldnt the repository
still work?
after the avanthi dies
i mean the others do
lev1, yum clean all
and try again
unless there is some magical way I can 'kill avahi' before it
starts parsing the loadup?
kk
can someone help me to turn on the DRI in miy FC 5?
!
not if you keep doing !
D:
biomega, what video card
ATI MOBILITY Radeon X300
i have installed the drivers correctly from livna
VilegentL Rebooting
Every time I run `rpm` I get this:
/etc/selinux/targeted/contexts/files/file_contexts: Multiple same
specifications for /usr/local/lost\+found/.*.
:/
Anyone familiar with "screenlets.i386" running under FC7
?
inclusive i'm runing compiz
ati and compiz dont mix
Vilegent:Unompressing Linux.... booting kernal... GUI loads
up...
Vilegent... ok now its going down the list... starting
daemons
VileGent i have follow that tuto
Vilegent... Starting Avahi daemon.. [FAILED] Starting HAL
daemon (hangs here for indefinate)
biomega, then you would have disables compiz and aiglx as
they in that howto
so how can I kill avahi?
okay! I've got the lappy upgraded to F7, I just need to
change the "resume" device from hda2 to sda2 -- grepping init.d for
"resume" doesn't seem to be finding anything though...
ok, its still not working, i went to the livna site and
downloaded the rpm, unpacked it, got the three repo's out of the
etc directory in teh rpm, and put them in etc/yum.repo.d and still
not working... is there just something wrong with the
site?
mindCrime, befor called that you can press I capitol I and be to
manually enable and disable deamons as you them
awesome kk
opps Mindlab
I've been using the GUI way too long. Now there is a problem
with my GUI and I can't get it to work well. Whats a irc thingy for
the command line?
irc client
RyanRyan52, irssi
RyanRyan52, Or BitchX
nirc
thanks
i dont think livna is up anymore
Mindlab, remove rhgb quiet on the grubline
ok I'll try that.
lev1, its working for me
lev1, rom -q livna-release
rpm -q livna-release rather
paste your /etc/yum.repos.d/livna.repo to the pastebin
kk
okay, linux hates my computer. I had this problem on Ubuntu
and now that I switched to Fedora I have it on here too. My problem
is that when I switch the Ctrl+Alt+F1 (I don't know what its
called) something happens to GNOME. When I switch back to
Ctrl+Alt+F7 its just flickering white. How can I fix
it?
http://rafb.net/p/4lYVpM42.html
anyone care to help me now?
RyanRyan52, that sounds like your video card or driver
hodges, rpm -q unrar
I have disabled avahi on boot, should I also disable HAL on
boot? It wont load without killing it @ bootup
says not installed, yum said it installed
no hal is needed
So how do I fix it?
RyanRyan52, some info would help
okay, 1 minute
hodges, uname -r
alos, replace rhgb quiet with acpi=off right?
*also
2.6.21-1.3194.fc7
in the grub
lev1, hardcode the release
did you catch that url? also it seems to be looking for a
repmod.xml file. is that correct?
anyone use linux terminal server project?
My mother board is intel DG965WH. It has onboard Intel GMA
x3000. and I'm using FC6.
i am suspecting since you are not truely running fedora
doesnt know what to do
what do you mean hardcode
well is it asking for the right file?
ok so when i type yum install unrar it says noth ing to
do
the right xml listing
does rpm -q unrar show it is installed?
from the documentation this is basically fc6 its just got a
few mods for better nvidia support and runs beryl right off the bat
and stuff
i dont think the base kernel code was touched
http://rpm.livna.org/fedora/$releasever/$basearch/
go to rpm.livna.org and put the path in your yum .conf
livna.repo
STARTING HAL DAEMON [FAILED] .. uh
but it booted lol
kk
Mindlab, at this point my suggestion reinstall
so acpi=off is the solutuon for no FTP authentication
working..?
have you looked at /var/log/messages?
haha
no
yes
Mindlab, did you open the firewall
yes
and added 21 to ip tables
for ftp to get in
yep
what about 20
no, I thought it installed but it won't
Nothing to do
I can open 20... in iptables or router or both?
hodges, ok was this a yum upgraded fc6 to f7 machine?
ha, ok, someone help me out. I'm trying to come up with a real
funny job advertisement. so far the duties I have are resetting
forgotten passwords, and fixing "broken" computers by plugging them
in. what else?
anyone know of a good text to speech application for Linux
(ala viaVoice) that can read pdf files?
Mindlab, both
if you do a yum search unrar do you see unrar??
yes, I do see unrar
no, it's fc7 fresh
yum clean all
yum install unrar
man, you guys are no fun...
on my clean install of F7 (last night) I do not see unrar by
default
Mathman, busy at the moment
if I do a yum search unrar
have you added other repos?
Authentication failed.
unrar is in livna repo
yes, I have looked at var/log/message.. I even sent debug
info for proftpd to rafb
locate kernel
and what does google say about that error
does yum have a fix? like apt-get -f install?
version
should I locate the kernel version?
uname -r
and check for support?
I uninstalled proftpd and tried with vsftpd.. no luck..
uninstalled that.. trying now with pure-ftpd that comes with
FC7
i meant for hal
(sorry, the first half got cut off)
lev1, you problem is self created
your not running fedora
hey, i can't get files i want to be added to the yum.repos.d
folder, it says i don't have adiquate permissions... How do i deal
with this?
be root
doesn't show it anymore
i swear it did earlier
i tried to become root, but it doesn't want to stay root
so I should install from rpm then?
hodges rpm -q livna-release
shakysv87, how are you trying to become root?
package livna-release is not installed
by terminal
yes, with what command?
how
i was messing with the visudo something or other file to give me
permissions
use "su -"
:P
command not found
"command not found?" A: Run the command AS ROOT after
switching users with "su --login" or "su -" in order to get root's
command PATH so the command WILL be found; don't run "su" by
itself. If it's still not found, then either it's not installed in
a standard path location (echo $PATH), is not executable (chmod
a+x), is in your current dir (./runme), or you've spelled it
incorrectly.
why?
ferrum, because you need to reverse the polarity of
/dev/null
shankysv87, read the post from zcat
ok, i don't understand what that means
opened port 20 .. 530 error auth failed
I think its a PAM related issue....
su doesnt give you the correct root path where su - does
sorry, i'm new to linux (i switched two days ago)
aha
bu not sure
su switches your user to root but preserves your
environment
i see
su --login (or "su -") creates the root environment and
switches your user.
usu --login (or "su -") creates the root environment and switches
your user./u
do that
ok...
then su -c 'yum install unrar'
thanks yall.. going to try it now
god I would really hate to have to reinstall this os again
..........
like the 8th time
Mindlab, quit messing it up
I didnt even bork it
yes you did LOL
give me a few to check something
Mindlab, let me tell you about frustration
frustration is installing Fedora on this new laptop, here
then configuring everything
and figuring out that Dell put a "MediaCenter" button on the
front that corrupts my hard drive every time I press it.
then having many random people come up and press it. Over and
over again.
thats nothing
frustration is thinking migrating from win2k3 r2 and plesk was a
good move... so far, I have lost over $20k in 2 weeks.
Wow.. that sounds pretty bad..
$20k? how?!
clients.
plesk yuck
Why not do the migration after proper testing, etc.?
yeah I hated plesk.. I was like "OK linux !"
Mindlab, ;_;
Southern_Gentlem, can you point me to the ipwxxxx / Fedora 7
updated install instructions?
you probably should have researched first..
hello everone, is there any way to boot a KVM guest machine with
an ISO other than the one used to install?
well I did.
wait, you're providing a server?
Then what happened that lost that much money?
sorry to bother. I am having trouble with seeing scsi drives.
I am not sure what to type at startup.
You should not be using Fedora for mission-critical servers
:O
Use CentOS, man!
ok
screw fedora.. going centos
thanks
holy ra
Yeah- I wouldn't have used Fedora for something like that
either.
Sad.
Talk about impulse decisions.
Southern_Gentlem, nevermind. I found it.
anyone?
I like how he just takes my advice without questioning
it
so.. how do i move files from one directory (my desktop) to
yum.repos.d?
tinh_, yes.
Hi there, I am using fedora core 6 and I have a JVC harddisk
video camera that I want to connect.. I figured that it would mount
like a USB flash stick, only.. it doesnt.. Anybody an idea what I
can do?
mv source destination
if the iso is bootable yes you can :P
mv ~/Desktop/file /etc/yum.repos.d
aTypical, ipw3945 yes newer than that use ndiswrapper
ok thanks
You'll need to be root to write that directory, of
course.
i'm set to that thanks
hello openbysource, nice to meet you again
Hi, VileGent. I forgot you've been hanging around EvilBob
again.
tinh_, can you please tell me what version of libvirt you
have. just check rpm -q libvirt
anyone know how to activate scsi support?
ok now if i do yum info unrar it shows up
and gives me info
openbysource, it's libvirt-0.2.2-4.fc7
openbysource, I think it's the latest from the repo
(Sorry about that)
tinh_, there is a update to this version. libvirt-0.2.3 that is
in testing/ will i guess soon come to updates/ i used it and it let
me boot live cd's of fedora.
hmm.. its saying no such file or destination
but i'm giving the right destinations
openbysource, I created a virtual machine, installed CentOS on
it, it runs fine, but know I want to boot that machine with another
DVD ISO, like Knoppix
openbysource, to do some backup practice
openbysource, can I do that?
let me finish one thing at a time.. sorry.. how do i get my user
as root?
permanently
su -
tinh_, currently there is no such thing that let you add or
remove or change a cdrom/iso device in a currently installed vm via
virt-manager afaik
shankysv87, you dont run as root at all times that is stupid
and asking to be hacked
openbysource, that's the bad thing , btw, can I resize the disk
of the guest OS after creating?
does linux not believe in drag and drop technology?
i've always heard that about running as root, but why is root
more insecure?
gnome has drag and drop.
?? you can drag and drop in linux
tinh_, yes. you can add a storage device from via
virt-manager.
Not when the user doesn't have access to the destination
directory.
oh haha.
we've been through this already..
ok, so as root, i still don't have permissions to the
yum.repos.d folder
0 PM) riczho: shankysv87: mv ~/Desktop/file
i tried that
and it was moved, yes?
nope
you ran that command as root, yes?
correct
And what happened instead of what you expected?
tinh_, but if you really want to have a iso to be available for
boot inside your vm i would suggest to look into the xml file of
the vm. that is in /etc/libvirt/qemu/ and for more info on the xml
syntax of this http://libvirt.org
no such file or direcotry
after he used su - ~ was a different directory
directory
*oh jesus*
but i typed it in correctly
If you're root, you may need to replace ~/Desktop/file with
~username/Desktop/file
what's your login?
shankysv87, you have to modify the command such that "file" is
the FILENAME OF THE FILE YOU WANT TO MOVE.
Shanky
wolsni, no! no hacking! bad bad!
ferrum, i'm not that stupid, i realized that and did so
it should be mv ~Shanky/Desktop/whatever
/etc/yum.repos.d/
mv ~username/Desktop/file /etc/yum.repos.d
then there is no reason the command did not work.
Replace "username" with your normal username.
openbysource, many thanks, I took a look at those XML files
already, but I didn't know about the syntax of it
ok, i figured it out, i was puting a / infront of "username"
of which i preplaced with Shanky
tinh_, http://libvirt.org/format.html
openbysource, I'm looking at it now
hi all
slack and centos don't have network install like fedora does do
they? this comp only has a cd drive don't feel like burning 6
cds
centos have network install. no idea about slack never used
it
CentOS can network install- don't know about Slackware.
thanks guy for baring with my ignorance, i'm sure ill be back
in a little while..
slackware _
Perhaps the slackware channel might know more about their
network install functionality.
anyone can tell me how I can kill automaticaly a process when
I shutdown? I installed fedora ds on fedora7 and I get a init
script but i need one to kill so it closes the ldap database so it
doesn't corrupt any help please? thanks
off
The initscript doesn't have a stop command?
sphenis, the initscript is added to chkconfig database ?
yes i used chkconfig fedora-ds on
kinda odd centos doesn't have bittorrent links
afaik it has torrent links
riczho yes it have, but in /rc5.d it uses S20fedora-ds, but
it doesn't have any K*
I'm seeding the torrent atm
i'm trying to get linux experience so I can eventually get a
job as a network technician (almost have my associates in
networking). I thought I'd try fedora since I heard a lot of
businesses use red hat, but which version would be most practical
for me?
i'm a newbie, so sorry if i make stupid questions
http://www.centos.org/modules/smartfaq/faq.php?faqid=24
sphenis, the kill script should be in /rc0.d or /rc6.d i
guess
I'm trying really hard to get it right and read a lot before
I try here
if you want to learn RH for the enterprise, use Centos
Hi there, I am using fedora core 6 and I have a JVC harddisk
video camera that I want to connect.. I figured that it would mount
like a USB flash stick, only.. it doesnt.. Anybody an idea what I
can do?
I'll try that openbysource
if you want to learn RH for the engineering release, use
Fedora
phoenixz, if it mounts like a usb flash stick then it should
be listed in lsusb. and probably fdisk -l output will be needed to
know whether it's showing up there
that talks about using bittorrent in centos doesn't give a
link
If you look at the bottom, it says that they're located in
the same dir as the isos.
hodges, centos website does gives the link. if you search over
there more patiently
so you're saying centos is more closely related to redhat
enterprise than fedora is?
And the "link" they give is http://mirror.centos.org/centos/$releaseversion/isos/$arch/
openbysource nope. in rc0.d and in rc6.d there is a killall,
but i think it corrupts the ldap databse
Centos is a (licenced) clone of RHEL
this monitor is small and hurts my eyes, I need to get my
glasses out of my car
centos is a rebuild from the red hat sources
lsusb doesnt show the device
fdisk -l ?
nada..
so fedora isn't?
sphenis, well if you really care what happens during the
service is shut down have a look into the initscript.
/etc/init.d/fedora-ds
no
fedora != RHEL
phoenixz, how do you attach the camera to your system
so how is fedora related to redhat?
redhat pays most of the bills
fedora contains new technology. This technology may or may not
at a later point be incorporated into RHEL.
usb 2.0
Well, it's sponsored by Redhat.
fedora is the community project of redhat
hodges, i would suggest to look into fedora's website for more
information. http://fedoraproject.org
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAQ#head-6625a0c6446570580049f3c17aaa7ae76f8a669d
rhel is the enterprise version
we try to create a stable bleeding-edge system. Redhat notices
what's stable, and creates RHEL out of that.
More or less.
phoenixz, are you sure you have attached the camera to a usb
port of your computer ?
openbysource I've done that. can't I create a say...
K20fedora-ds using the same as S20fedora-ds? It wont shutdown the
fedora-ds?
centos == rhel without the redhat copyrighted stuff
no red hats ;[
Yeah... I just only figured it was not turned on.. duh.. let
me try again
hence the expression "engineering release"
and most important commercial support
not to be offensive, but what's the practical use for fedora?
for home systems? I need to practice scripting for servers
etc.
Here is dumboooo! it works
Is anyone using Bluecurve with Fedora 7? I'm noticing my
icons in the panel are slightly blurry.
phoenixz, lol
sphenis, that would be insane
fedora is basically the testbed for the next version of
rhel
hodges, practical use is to develop and improve the latest
technology, whether by developing or filing bug reports.
for the end user, it's to be given the latest tech.
Well, it's a nice distro with a good community and somewhat
new versions of software, etc.
sphenis, all running services have to shut down when the
system shut down
So yeah- I personally use it as my desktop OS.
so how is centos different from fedora?
centos is RHEL without the branding.
centos is rhel
hodges, cent is a rebuild of rhel.
Similar to the way that RHEL is different from Fedora.
openbysource yep that i know. But it seems that I get my
fedora-ds ldap database corrupted when i shutdown
no
sphenis, and you saying to start it during system shut down ?
as i told earlier if you want to change the behaviour it exhibit
when the stop() is called you look into it's initscript
rhel is different from fedora in many ways
RHEL is guaranteed to be stable. It doesn't update to new
versions.
hodges I'm a newbie so what i say can be wrong. I tried
centos5 and fedora7
but the difference between rhel and centos isn't one of
them
rhel does gets update. rhel4 is currently under update
5.
the diference for me is that fedora is like a test
system
but most of them are security updates and critical bug
fixes
is like... try in the wild before using it in Red Hat
rhel is what people pay for, so stability is it's main
focus
I didn't say taht they were similar. I said that CentOS
differs from Fedora in a similar way to how RHEL differs.
**that
so if I want to learn scripting and the basics of the system,
would fedora or centos be better?
fedora has today what you will see everywhere tomorrow
sorry, that doesn't make sense
bingo
I prefer poker
shouldn't really matter tbh
sphenis, fedora is not a test system. It is an operating system
that is defined by 1) free software, and 2) incorporating the
latest technology. We don't include beta releases generally, so
nothing is really being tested, only further proven.
centos5 is the same as RHEL5 whitout support
guess i'll stick with fedora then
For something that general, either would work (pretty much any
distro, actually)
Servers
Desktops
kk
centos is rhel without redhat licensing
ferrum sorry. I'm portuguese so i use simple words... i have
no intention to say bad about fedora... is my choice!
)))
riczho, fedora differs from RHEL in so many ways. CentOS is
basically a recompile of RHEL without the redhat
trademarks
Basically, the difference between RHEL and Fedora is similar to
the difference between CentOS and Fedora. Sorry if my statement was
unclear.
after trying centos5 i choose fedora7
yeah, that's kinda right
hehe
riczho, i don't think so.
Yes, I know.
Someone that is learning systems administration should have
at least a rpm and deb based system to learn on
now I need to start learning python
Hi there! I have DVD files somewhere on my harddrive.. How
can I have a movie player access that directory as if it were a
DVD?
hodges, pff, that's easy.
Really? Why not?
is there a good fedora begginers tutorial that you guys know of
so I won't have to keep bugging you with questions?
yeah, if you are gonna be in the biz... you need to learn
rhel...
a BSD and a slackware would not hurt
hodges, for what, python?
phoenixz, you need to have vlc. or something like that in order
to play dvds
for fedora
www.fedorasolved.org www.fedorafaq.com
for the most part, linux in the enterprise is either RHEL or
SLES
I have mplayer.. that will do?
fedora and rhel are backed by redhat. centos and fedora. well
centos is not backed by redhat. riczho
Depends on specifically what you want to do. There usually
aren't tutorials for general things like "learning scripting and
the basics of the system"
malikeye, or SuSE
i imagine so
centos isn't backed by redhat
easy maybe but the syntax is kinda weird, my school uses MS
products so I know mostly BASIC. QuickBasic, FreeBasic,
VisualBasic.NET, VBSCRIPT
SLES == SuSE
hodges, re-educate yourself, NOW.
When I said that, it was in the context of
functionality/purpose, not backing company.
Then, how would I tell mplayer to access it as a dvd?
riczho, you didn't mentioned the context.
Don't worry- as long as you understand the concepts, syntax
is pretty easy to figure out.
hodges, "It is practically impossible to teach good
programming style to students that have had prior exposure to
BASIC; as potential programmers they are mentally mutilated beyond
hope of regeneration. (Edsger Dijkstra)"
phoenixz, what file type you have
i think that riczho was tryin to say was that F - R = F - C
therefore R = C
VB is still highly marketable
the first thing I ever coded was in VB.
ha, I'm screwed. I learned assembly first pretty much
just like cobol is still around
I think these are not even DVD files..
haha
I see .moi and .mod files.. They come from the JVC harddrive
camera
use midentify from the command line to see if mplayer can make
any sense of them
the teachers who taught it to me also know java, C++, C#,
etc. so they're not ignorant
it's just the powers that be that tell them what to teach
Not trying to suggest anything, but in general, knowing a lot of
languages doesn't exempt you from being ignorant
get vmware-server (it's no charge) install several distros
and see what you like, then run something else
java and C++ look kind of scary but I need to learn them at
least a little
Yup- school administration is generally
annoying/politics-filled.
gives me nothing... I execute midentify on one of those files
and after some 10 seconds I am back at command prompt
if you're planning on learning both, learn C first
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Im pretty sure it is - the 3rd party rpm has some binaries which are linked to the static lib and anything which