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Im pretty sure it is - the 3rd party rpm has some binaries which are linked to the static lib and anything which
I install Fedora 7 and chosen xfce4 to my desktopso i not chosen gnomebut when i finish installgnome is still
Ive been using fed core 6 on my laptop for about 3 months now and i love it however my girlfriend hates it I tried







uI did a clean install of Fedora 7. When I log in using KDE I have no problems, but when I try using gnome, I can't always. Sometimes just my background and a cursor come up, and sometimes a blank gnome-panel shows as well. When I AM able to use gnome, I have to restart the X server hosting a couple times (ctrl+alt+bksp) before everything shows. When I try to restart the computer, it will close the gnome-panel and then just sit until I log in/u

hodges, rpm -V {pygtk2,yumex}

doesn't display anything

the curly braces and comma are superfluous there btw

what was that supposed to do?

Anyone?

hodges, then it's bugzilla time
verify packages integrity

mmk
do i need to restart x after installing packages? I installed 7zip with yum and it isn't showing up

wolsni, right

does 7zip have a GUI on linux hosting now?

dunno
I cou ld make one for .NET but unfortunately .NET isn't for linux

i don't think 7zip has a GUI on non-Windows systems

well that's a damn shame
wouldn't be that hard

uh, mono

the go do it.

but ark (the kde archive manager) can act as a frontend for it

I don't know linux at all though

probably gnome's file-roller too

that's cool, can it handle rars to?

ark cann

*too
word
I like winrar so much I actually bought it
and that's rare

waht's even rarer is me ever seeing a windows system ever booted again

7, and it mostly works. However the network won't configure itself correctly using DHCP. It thinks for a while, and decides on the (wrong) address 169.254.*.* with no route. Anyone else had a similar problem?

that's like asking me to go to church
and pray to some hairy guy in the clouds to "save me"

169 is what happens when it can't establish DHCP
check the connection to your router

yum was improved! 'yum install unarj' installs 'arj' !

I guess the connection to the router is good, since I am using it now from another computer through the same switch.

hodges, yum install unrar
(from livna)

have you tried another cable?

What do you have against hairy guys?

hey. I'm attempting to sign an rpm and I'm getting an invalid passpharse, yet when I issue this gpg --sign /tmp/t1.txt and it asks for the passphrase which is the same for the previous rpm signing process the gpg commands succeeds. ideas?

Using its cable now. :-)
I have not found anything about this particular problem on fedoraforum.org. :-(

on a dell laptop, how do i make fn+esc suspend the computer, and fn+F1 hibernate? it worked in FC6

anybody knows where can i get rar for f7?

your computer is having trouble obtaining an dedicated ip hosting address from your router

nothing, but i don't pray to them

freshrpms.net

whitehat, it's not there

Aha. Could it be that it is asking in the wrong way?

does your router have secrutiy settings that would prevent it from obtaining an address? do you have a weird firewall on your computer?

if anything religions are elaborate fables designed to teach people who are having trouble finding a moral compass in the world
not to be taken as "fact"

try a static host IP on the interface and verifying you actually have connectivity

I'm n ot sure how it could ask in the wrong way

this ends here

ah. I think the fc6 will work with fc7. there is a note in the release notes re the fc6, fc7 tag.

what ends?

im guessing its one of two things. the eithernet drvier is no longer working, or the network cable/port are failing

whitehat, thnx a lot

k.

most likely the latter, as you're claiming it working in FC6 previously

it should just work, does the laptop suspend ok when you dont use the fn key?

are you saying you wish to kick me out?
feel free.
make it last though

The port light is blinking, when NetworkManager is looking for an address, and the router does work for another computer, so I would guess, that it is the driver, which is the problem then.

in which case you'll see messages in /var/log/messages

whoever just messaged me .. i don't take requests .. sorry

have you tried a static ip/route already?

Hrm. I didn't mean to open that can of worms. fsck: I was simply trying to stay awake. No worries.

heh .. doesn't matter to me .. i cannot be offended

(I'm a hairy guy)

taking offense to anything is a weakness

so is being a blowhard

hehe

i'm hairy too.. let's start a coven

Did not think about /var/log/messages, thanks. I am not sure how to do the static address. I don't have access to the router.

its not in the router. you know the subnet range and gateway address of the lan. open /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 and do it by hand aas a BOOTPROTO=static, or run system-config-network

Heh, I was called an Ass the other day by a guy who didn't like having the facts presented to him. While his peers looked on in disbelief at his arguement and name calling I broke up the room with "Well, perhaps I am an ass but if you think it's tough living with one try living without one".

guzu, yum install rar, yum install unrar
from livna

ferrum, what i can say is that is not yet avail for f7

has anyone run into a problem where ananconda when running from a kickstart file just flat out ignores what the dhcp server gave it for an ip and picks something else?

ferrum, but thank you anyway

guzu, it is available, I have it installed.

ferrum, that is strange, what says rpm -q rar
?

i don't see a rar package in livna

unrar-3.7.5-1.lvn7

just unrar

ferrum, cause yum list rar says nothing

oh, rar? didn't check that.

aah
ok

yes, rar is not available.

i'm fine with command line
just thought 7zip would have a GUI for some reason
someh ow I have a feeling programming in linux may be significantly h arder or else i'd make one

rpm -ql 7zip | grep bin

uh, mono

7zip has no gui under linux, the author wrote code in a microsoft specific fashion for the gui portions

?

mono is a reimplementation of .NET for linux

oh

first, to find out the 7zip binaries, then see wolsni comment

word i'll have to check it out later

hodges, coding GUIs is very, very easy.
QT has QTDesigner, GTK has Glade

so how come nobody else has?

hodges, we have no need for a gui that does nothing but 7zip compression/decompression.

hi there ....can someone help me? LYNX is not working on my command line

in the case of 7zip it's because they are porting someone elses software and that someone write ms specific gui code. It would be a rewrite each time and would be the suck.

is it installed?

checkgrrl, sure. what's it saying?

where is ark under the menu?

checkergrrl*

lynx command not found

"command not found?" A: Run the command AS ROOT after switching users with "su --login" or "su -" in order to get root's command PATH so the command WILL be found; don't run "su" by itself. If it's still not found, then either it's not installed in a standard path location (echo $PATH), is not executable (chmod a+x), is in your current dir (./runme), or you've spelled it incorrectly.

hodges, I use Gnome, sorry :x
checkergrrl, yum install elinks
then use elinks

it would be simple enough to pass arguments to the command line program. it wouldn't be as pretty but it would be effective

or.. if you really want lynx.. yum install lynx

(we have lynx also iirc, but elinks is more up-to-date)

lynx is non gui browser right?

wait wait....should i got with zcat or ferrum?

hodges, it is gui.

i got to answers

i chose to install it with fedora but didn't see it

i am running FC6

checkergrrl, su -c "yum install lynx"

*don't see it

^ go with that.

yes, presuming that the cl-program doesn't changes it's args or formats. It's an unusual situation with 7zip really.

k ferrum

how do i get to ark?

it's part of the kdeutils package

I remember one program that could do zips tarballs, 7zip and several other things but i can't remember the name

ark is in kdeutils
so yum install kdeutils (even if you aren't really using kde)

utilities/file/ark archiving tool

hodges, file-roller

i just needed to know where it was in the menu
don't think i've used that

guzu, he's on KDE.
file-roller is Gnome equivalent.

i see
hodges, have you installed 7zip or p7zip?

p7zip
ark doesn't give me the option though

hodges, thnx

for what?
wtf ark can create rar archives? i thought only winrar could
and 7zip, wasn't giving me the pulldown menu before

hmm, time for some final words, before rebooting this fc6 going fc7 install

hodges, why would you think only winrar can create rars o_O

or do I need to install winrar before it'll create rar files?

BULLE, nice knowing you

i've never seen one other program that could create rars
tar, jar, tar.gz, 7z etc

=D

but never .rar

hodges, propose how you will go about installing winrar

no need if ark can make them

well, with some luck, you will see me again in a few minutes

hodges, file-roller can create .7z

yeah but 7z is open sourc

want rar? http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail/1053350629/2 there ya go

ark basically just runs the commandline tools

can someone help me debug an NFS issue? I have a machine exporting a directory that is used by MythTV to store its video files. Works fine for the most part. However after a the remote machine can not access the directory, and top on the NFS server machine shows 5 or 6 nfsd processes in 'uninterruptable sleep' (D) only a physical power cycle can get me past this. Any ideas where to start debugging?

there's rar for linux web hosting on the rar site just not gui
that's what I thought which is why I was asking if I needed winrar already

you need the rar commandline tool

It's a Fedora 6 machine, BTW

mtnbkr-laptop: do you use the 'soft' and 'intr' options when you mount the on the client?

not sure I can check though

Is there a way to test my internet connection speed without using my browser to do it?

Hey all

mtnbkr-laptop: If you have neither than then NFS is instructed to pretend that nfs mount is a real disk and will never let go or return an error.

Fc5 here, what's the easiest way to update to fc7 w/o fresh format?

for some reason if you go to NEW (in ark) it has 2 options for rar archives

rsize=8192,wsize=8192
on the client

Andyman53, format and install.

ack...

mtbkr-laptop: add ,soft to that. If the nfs falls down the client will get an error and the nfs service handler will not hang like that.

think of it as spring cleaning

:-\

I will add those options to the client., but that is not my real issue. on the nfs server, when this issue is occurring top shows all the nfsd processes as 'D' and a sync command deom the fommand line never finishes, and a shutdown never completes, hence the required power-cycle

technically you could upgrade to fc6 then to f7, but it probably won't even work and will likely be an even greater waste of your time.

mtbkr-laptop: the default is unfortunate, older software didn't deal with the concept of their 'disk' going away. hence the server hosting gets kernel locked.

probably.

Anyone know a way to test my connections speed without using something like dslreports.com?

mtbkr-laptop: give it a try, you may be surprised. Probably you have some other network issue that's problematic but at least, this way, you'll see it.

i really like speakeasy.net/speedtest

can i wipe out the OS w/o wiping the partition?

ferrum is right. i tried the upgrade from fc6 and had probs with vid. my clean install of f7 was tons better

don't i have to browse there
?

Andyman53, if your home dir and OS are on different partitions, sure.

you should be able to wipe out the OS without the partition
yes do you not have a browser?

kparted to make a logical part to save all my stuffs?

and if they aren't, now would be a good time to make sure they are

i do, but i want to see true speed, and browser can affect it

I don't know about that
I always make backups before removing an OS or changing a partition
-- is Andy too

robbins876, there is no such thing as "true speed"

--- the backup computer with samba shares

burn to cd/dvd

ok, so I'll try adding intr and soft to the nfs client machine and remount.... THEN I will be back when the nfs server acts up again.

true

lynx installation still running

checkergrrl, wow that's... taking a while o_O

hah, just gonna off it to another box
and wipe it out lol

Andyman53, make sure to verify integrity after transfer

true

mtnbkr-laptop: fair enough, especially because I go home soon

well ... I don't know what finally did it, but its up
for the record, I had (for some reason) removed the 127.0.0.1 line from /etc/hosts

Does anyone have experience with SATA drives and software RAID1? I've been doing software RAID1 with IDE and SCSI for years without any problems. But I'm having all kinds of problems with SATA drives.

I have 2 sata drives but never messed with RAID, sorry

adding that back (in full) , and setting localhosts.localdomain in /etc/sysconfig/network seemed to do the trick...
however...
why was my connection just reset?

facefaceface, Yes.

Yeah, SATA works OK, it's the RAID that doesn't. :-(

I didn't manually add a route, but its looking good now
talexb, indeed

what's the linux equivelant of the windows ipconfig command?

ifconfig

hodges, dang
you have to be quick around here

whoa, did facefaceface grow another face?

hold on mock

Hi all! need help. running fedora6 (update from 5 online) on ps3 and connected to old tv. Many buttons end up outside/below my screen. What are my options?

ifconfig: command not found

"command not found?" A: Run the command AS ROOT after switching users with "su --login" or "su -" in order to get root's command PATH so the command WILL be found; don't run "su" by itself. If it's still not found, then either it's not installed in a standard path location (echo $PATH), is not executable (chmod a+x), is in your current dir (./runme), or you've spelled it incorrectly.

I'm trying to download fedora through a mirror and was wondering if this is the correct image?

/sbin/ifconfig

um..... /linux/releases/7/Fedora/x86_64/iso

i did run it as root
stupid bot

is that the correct path?

/sbin/ifconfig

use sha1sum and check it

do you have a 64 bit processor?
and i'm pretty sure there should be a /images directory somewhere in there

amd athlon 64 x2 3800+ ;p

oh
I was mute
well... thanks dudes

hm... i don't see an /images DIR. http://fedora.mirror.facebook.com/linux/

i thought i was seeing double

mock, nope, just the two faces here
bye now

anyone know how to find out what physical drives compose a raid array using the aic79xx module?

dunno i just torrented the iso thhen did a network install

can anyone help me configure a hda-intel Conexant Wakiki ICH7 sound card to work with alsa?

put some butter on it. maybe some jelly. a lot of people like salmon and cream cheese on their croiscants

hodges, ha-ha.

hrm...can i connect to multiple servers in konversation?
or is there a better client I should get?

hi, anyone come across a program to do a simple slideshow with captions. idieally I want to dump some photos in a folder with a text file and just click through the photos and have the text come up - it's just for showing holiday photos without going through the same thing with ever relative :-)

brb

what is the default username/password for tomcat host admin on fc6? running stock fc6 tomcat

read your tomcat-users.xml

thanks

by default there are no users with role manager

i'm brand new to tomcat. literally just started it for the first time ever. can i log in with tomcat/tomcat as indicated in that file?

I'm attempting to sign an rpm with either --sign or --addsign but I continue to review invalid passphrase, yet when I run gpg --sign it works. ideas?

how do i install an ati video card on FC7?

http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-5.0-doc/manager-howto.html

have you got livna repo installed?
thanks JohnMahowald

not sure if i have the correct one

are you one of the fedora devs?

livna won't help, fglrx is busted on F7

oh...ouch

i couldn't figure out on FC6 either though
there must be a way

try with the open driver?

open driver?
the one linux found?
its no good

tomyou, from what I understood the f7 ati/amd driver is busetd... and ati does not plan on releasing a new one soon... so...

i could never get it working on FC6 either, i think ati and linux just don't do well together

tomyou, you could try this with f7 http://fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=155503&page=4
tomyou, it worked for some people...

thank you
i really appreciate it

I have a directory called /home/group that is shared across a bunch of client PCs, and I have a new thumbdrive. I want to mount that thumbdrive to /home/group/whatever so that it'll also share with the current /home/group shared mount. How?
I'm using CentOS

Is there an irc channel on this or another server for Thunderbird help (for the thunderbird that comes with Fedora 7)?

I am trying to install Steam via wine and I am getting this error message http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/800/screenshoterrorfi3.png
I am trying to install Steam via wine and I am getting this error message a href="http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/800/screenshoterrorfi3.png"http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/800/screenshoterrorfi3.png/a

JKnife, "access denied," think why it could be denied access.

chown it maybe.

what is the problem?

5
it isn't permissions

this is the one and only Fedora user channel, feel free to fire away, no need to ask

JKnife, you followed the HOWTO on fedorasolved.org ?

no, valves wiki

JKnife, www.fedorasolved.org

ferrum ...it worked
thanks

welcome

i made a user, while tomcat was stopped. tried to log in, can't accesss

Hey guys, I was wondering if any of you could help resolve an issue I'm having with a Fedora server that requires a force shutdown/reboot

s/access/"access denied"

frozty_sa, a system user?

nope..should it be one?

I have no experience with tomcat *shrug*

the system hangs at shutdown

JohnMahowald pointed me to a tomcat page as well as /etc/tomcat5/tomcat-users.xml

ferrum, samething

i'm supposed to create the user in that file, and then (re)start the server. try to login and it swears at me

they also need the manager role

the one i made had standard and manager role?

the msi works

not the exe.. strange

can anybody help me with my reboot problem?

what i want to do is test zk (zkdemo specifically), but now i can't get into the administration page where it asks for user/pass even..

you seem to know a lot, would you mind helping me?

at which point does it hang?

I need help mounting a thumb drive I have

it hangs at the very end of the reboot script

k. do you maybe know with what which service or so it hangs?
as in, what's the last thing to run that then hangs

Kage, doesn't it automount?

hello. why was "core" dropped from fedora 7?

because core and extras were merged

oh? interesting. this is part of the "spins" concept?
are there docs on creating your own spin? (admittedly, i haven't looked)

yum install revisor

thanks

no problem

so ive gone through 3 dvd's trying to burn the image to them, i checksummed the .iso and its fine (even its own checker in the install process works in parallels) but it keeps fucking up when writing to the dvd, what should I do different?

it doesn't hang on a service, all the services are already shut off when it hangs
that's part of the problem

imMute, The machine you're burning from, is it busy?

yes..that is pretty odd

imMute, Laternatively, see if you can change the drive or the brand of DVDs that you're using.

what command would you use to reboot?
ive tried reboot and shutdown -r

its got 2 GB of ram, and its not like im doing any cpu or hd intensive things
would burning at 2x or 4x make it more reliable?

you can also try to see if it's maybe something dodgy by specifying that it shouldn't go through any scripts

i'm not quite sure how to do that, mind helping me?

hang on, will give the command now

imMute, Yeah, try burning at the slowest possible speed -- that might help.

ok

shutdown -r -n now

I've got a question about cron .. what freaking attributes does FC6 want for the files in /etc/cron.d?
I had a file that was 755, and change that to 600, and that doesn't appear to work.

alright, ill try that after it finishes the update, ill let you know how that goes
balright, ill try that after it finishes the update, ill let you know how that goes/b

k
my sympathies
because i know that feeling..fc6 initial install trying to update from dvd (and that was not supported..and yum can't just nicely tell you what went wrong)
bbecause i know that feeling..fc6 initial install trying to update from dvd (and that was not supported..and yum can't just nicely tell you what went wrong)/b

I tried mounting my USB thumb drive, but /dev/sda* are all not working
What now?

Kage[Work]: is the usb-storage module loaded?

Kage[Work], Hmm, when I plug mine in the USB port it just .. works.

Kage[Work]: and what's dmesg spitting out regarding the device?

What kernel are you using? I think it has to be a 2.6.x version.

Lemme see...
I'm using Centos 4.3 I think

lol

uname -a will tell you what kernel.

2.6.9
And...
Centos 4.3 Final

Kage[Work]: jeez buddy, you ever hear of yum update?

http://pastebin.ca/565038

2.6.9....that's about fc4~5 round, isn't it?

Not my machine to upgrade :/

Centos 4 is built off RH 4 which is FC5

I'm using 2.6.3 with my USB key, so your version is probably OK .. but we need to see about the USB sub-system ..

Kage[Work]: looks like sda1 is your device. what's the problem?

http://pastebin.ca/565041
sda1 is not my device...
I tried mounting it, and it's some data I have no idea of..

Kage[Work]: nah, sdi is

sdi is the device?

Kage[Work]: so it's mounted and you don't know what the data is? I fail to see what the problem is then

8GBUSB
What I see are Windows files

Kage[Work], I tried lsusb and it told me what was mounted on my USB ports ..

(which confuses me)

some proprietary garbage set up on the windows machine for accessing the usb drive?
did you search through the device to see if your file is in there somewhere?

I don't have lsusb
Yes
It's some odd DOS partition on a linux machine
..which really confuses me..?
Huh...

Kage[Work]: and you're sure it's the right device? have you put back on the windows machine?

hallo

tag

8GBUSB
I formatted it to fat32
So there should be one thing on it
That file
And it is not sdi, either
Nor is it sda1
WAIT
Found it

is there some simpla way of enablind wpa wireless support in fc7 ?
or should i just dont bother with the gui tools, and just hack the needed lines into rc.local ?

Ok, one more question.. How do I mount my flash drive so everyone can use it?
uOk, one more question.. How do I mount my flash drive so everyone can use it?/u

hrm...can yum install dosbox?

ok, i assume the wireless stuff is still broken beyond repair, and will just hack it into rc.local

and yumex still isn't working
I use a wireless access poitn as a client
works pretty well
and no drivers required
oh boy thunder

yes captain sunshine?

hrm...
wonder where dosbox installed

rpm -ql dosbox
or "whereis dosbox"

Please help meoes Fedora have "gtkmm-dev" package on it's CD or DVD?

ramanK, there is bitgtkmm-devel

i was hoping there was a shortcut on the menu too

thanks

can't figure out how to run dosbox
much easier in windows adds a start menu and shortcut
oh duh just type "dosbox"

Any idea why glibc-common.fc6 might be conflicting with rpcbind.fc7?

Try updating to the f7 glibc at the same time
A file may have moved between the two packages

just upgraded to FC7, and have an invisible mouse. Can anyone save me the frustration of trying to find the fix with an invisible mouse?

buy an invisible keyboard to match

tnkx

i had a similar problem on a laptop and I had turned off the scroll feature on the touchpad, turned it on and mouse worked

mac^^^: not the case

ok

yeah. ctrl-alt-f1. fix your xorg conf. ctrl-alt-f7. ctrl-alt-backspace
then your mouse will work

Ok... I got a problem...

will try

so I run `yum upgrade glibc-common rpcbind` ?

i wouldnt realy mix fc6 and fc7

Try just plain 'yum upgrade'

that's what I did :/

I have /dev/sdi1 as my flashdrive on a server.. /home/group is already mounted across all client machines. I want to mount /dev/sdi1 on /home/group/flash so that all users can use it
But it's not working for me

I'll move up to FC7 eventually :P

Are you trying to use yum to do a live-update of an FC6 system to F7?

better do it right now

regrettably

yumex still isn't working something about gtk missing but i have gtk

you most likely havent got the right gtk+ version or gtk+python binding
that shouldnt be a problem realy

Don't do that.

I really don't have another option, Sopwith.

rpms for fc7 havent been designed to work with fc6 rpms

There's always another option to doing stupid stuff..

so you are bound to get into trouble

I don't plan on mixing them, I plan on moving them all up :P

why is there no other option ? what are you trying to do
then do a proper fc6 to fc7 uppgrade, all in one go

hm... can I force yum to ignore dep problems

It's OK to experiment, but when you don't follow the recommended procedure, please don't expect it to work.

now that is a VERY stupid thing to do

That's what I'm doing

does printing to a network printer require CUPS?

Sure, and you can also rm -rf /, but it's not a good idea.

its probably going to fail

I've a problem with my display and don't know where to start? I've tried re-installing the latest drivers but to no avail, the picture is all broken and streaked. It's a NVidia card?

upgraded fc6, done a yum clean-all then installed the fedora7 noarch rpm, then done a yum upgrade ?

yesir.

and youll be left with a broken, unstable OS. youll have to resintall the system from cd again

doing fc6 to fc7 upgrade via yum seems to work pretty well

I'm aware of the risks. And yes, many people have reported success in upgrading
those who aren't using the old device libs anyway

does printing to a network printer require CUPS?

doesnt f7 update glibc?

No

it does

Kage[Work]: how can i set that up? the sys-config-printer tool seems to not work unless CUPS is installed and running

hehe. best of luck to you then

FC7 update now...

i have done it on three machines, during the last days

so how do I get the right version?

and it works well, doesn't it?
im running it on THIS machine

sure

You're not getting any weird dependency errors for glibc?

no, not yet

neither did i
have you used any third part repositories

have you updated your FC6 packages to the latest versions?

nope. cPanel has been kicking in every once in a while, though there are no conflicts there
yes

CUPS might be needed to communicate to a printer over a network, but I don't have mine running through any CUPS config that I know of

bulle is right, as long as your system is totally contained in yum, a update *should* go smooth

i dont know then, this is a relatively new install of FC6

same here

Mine just connects to the printer's IP directly and sends postscript raw data.. nothing is setup in CUPS specifically

I just brought this system from FC5 to FC6 today
lol

Kage[Work]: can i ask you how you set it up?

ye, third party repositories will fuck things up
only solution is to uninstall third party stuff realy

so how do I get the right version?

yah. or, if your like me and have a bunch of custom rolled rpm's and have apache/php installed from source.... an upgrade like that... *boom*

that i dont know
uninstall yumex, then install it again ?
hope that it will draw in missing dependencies ?

Hi there, can any1 help me with downloading drivers for my gfx card?? ATI Radeon X1700??

Uhh, dunno.. just used Fedora's printer setup

arg
Kage[Work]: everytime i use that it requests that CUPS be installed and running

I'll try that, thanks

hey there, got an issue on one of my boxes, installed fc7 and after reboot post install stuff should appear but my monitor turn off. I guess that I should change resolution and so on but can't even go to command line...

Cannot remember if I used networked CUPS or networked Linux

(process:28251): Gtk-WARNING (recursed) **: could not load image: Icon 'document-new' not present in theme

gah

that's the error btw

file /usr/sbin/rpcinfo from install of rpcbind-0.1.4-6.fc7 conflicts with file from package glibc-common-2.5-10.fc6

Hi there, can any1 help me with downloading drivers for my gfx card?? ATI Radeon X1700??

i have another drive in my computer that is formatted to fat32 i believe, when i had ubuntu, i was able to see it and use the files within, but with fedora i'm not able to. Is there a way to see that file and use the files within again with fedora or not?

is glibc-common supposed to come in two versions?

shankysv87, you should just mount the partition, should I point you to some FAQ?

anyone know where the listing config for the save/open dialog box is ?

i don't know how to mount a partition i cannot see.

my userid is being listed twice for some reason

http://www.bobpeers.com/linux/mount#mountingFAT

or this one: http://fedorasolved.org/post-install-solutions/add-new-hdd/

it's not that hard and when you'll check it out you can do it automagically during boot

Hi there, can any1 help me with downloading drivers for my gfx card?? ATI Radeon X1700??

i cant find that card...

facedancer, for some reason it says that i don't have permissions. How do i have full permissions, like an admin.. i have root password.

2secs, lemme double check

is it based on the X1600

ATI Radeon x1300 Pro

ah

sorry

http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeon.html
np

is it easy 2 install?

i am migrated some home directories from an FC6 system to F7. Now the ls -Z /home shows root:object_r:user_home_dir_t for migrated users and system_u:object_r:user_home_dir_t
for others
How might I change these?

The chcon command?

i've never tried, but it seems to be a binary, so i'd assume so

you can use the "su -" command to switch to a root shell

hmm

there is a new version of xorg in F7, ATi drivers don't work with it yet

riczho - chcon is not on the system

ok ty wolsni

riczho, i take that back. it is there but no man entry. sorry

wolsni says there is a new version of xorg that does not work with the ATI drivers

soooo, it wont work then?

you can install the xorg packages from FC6 and use the ATi driver with that, i think that's the workaround

I don't have an ATi card, i was simply advising him as to the location of the drivers
but thank's for the advice
616/1790 updates done =-)

what did you do, install from the original FC6 cds?

unless the ISO's online are updated, yes

you may want to grab the respins next time

respins?

http://fedoraunity.org/re-spins
respins of the fedora installer with updated packages

man, I sure am missing gnome-cups-manager.

i see
hopefully i wont have to reinstall on this server :-D

Hmm, I guess I can kill my torrent now.. 2.5 ratio

hello
how do youplay rmvb files on F7?

man, I'm not good at setting up a windows-shared network printer without gnome-cups-manager.
I'm sure I got the printer working fine under fc6.
I guess I've relied on gnome-cups-manager for so long and now, it doesn't appear to be around anymore.
I use SystemAdministrationPrinting, try to add a printer, but I'm not sure what to specify when it asks for the smb:// name
uI use SystemAdministrationPrinting, try to add a printer, but I'm not sure what to specify when it asks for the smb:// name/u
if you're looking for a network printer's addy, how would you find it? Is there some app/command that shows you which printers or devices are available on the lan?

hi
i need help with fedora core 5, ATI drivers and DRI

thingfish, I have a small network so I just use nmap

hey folks, just did an upgrade from FC6-FC7 via DVD and now my system has kinda blew up on me
http://reasonablyinteresting.com/~jokker/kernelerror.jpg
would anyone happen to have any suggestions of fixing this problem? I've tried as much as I can figure out, rebuilt the initrd both by hand and with mkinitrd
booting off the rescue disk works fine as far as disk detection goes

__joker on some system the hard drive is not found due to libdata wanting all drives to be sdX and changing hda drives to sda

ok so I reinstalled yumex and same error, (process:28310): Gtk-WARNING (recursed) **: could not load image: Icon 'document-new' not present in theme
so do I need gnome installed?

i have a system i am having the same type of problems with one of my machine the rest are working fine

yeah I had read about this but I do have the proper labeling in place and I also tried setting up the fstab entries with /dev/sdX as well, no luck
even going into the initrd and forcing it to use /dev/sdX doesn't seem to work either

__joker i am staying on fc6 on that one box till the problem can be fixed with updates then i will do a respin

In need of 2 issues.. been racking my head for 1 week straight with. One deals with FTP not authenticating (used many servers) the other deals with Starting HAL Daemon hanging.

Mindlab, try acpi=off on the grub kernelline

Spoke with devs for proftpd and others.. they tell me it has to be a problem with FC7 messing up libc.. but then I tried several other FTP daemons, with the same 530 errors.
kk I will figure out how and try that
lol

Is anyone here do dual monitors with Fedora 7 and a single Nvidia card

boot/grub/grub.conf right?

yep
kernelline in that

done, rebooting but it will probably hang at Starting HAL daemon again.. this just started happening last reboot and I have no idea why

is this a x64 system

no.

ok
i had another switch to try if it was

see yeah I cant boot this
Starting AVAHI Daemon... FAILED... Staring HAL daemon.... hangs

kill the Avanti

boot using the FC7 dvd.. mount sysimage, startx?

got it thanks!

I have no idea how to kill Avahi

is there a way to make my user the root privilages permanent?

with su
sudo
i mean
enter as root
write visudo

is there a way to make programs i install in fc6 - berry create an icon in the menu bar?
bis there a way to make programs i install in fc6 - berry create an icon in the menu bar?/b

menu bar not most are in the menu
is the apps are part of the fedora

what I have been doing was booting dvd... recue.. then mounting sysimage to /mnt/sysimage and firing up startx

thanks VileGent

Mindlab, why

b/c I know not what else to do lol

Mindlab, how did you download that dvd.iso

Starting HAL freezes
My system was fine a few mins ago.. server on it.. all sorts of working perfectly.

Mindlab, how did you download that dvd.iso

hrm.;..ark says unrar is not installed though i installed it through yum

unrar is a cli app not a gui

yeah but ark says it isn't installed
and it is

I grabbed it from a mirror awhile back... system was running fine all day.. have had it 100% over the last week or more.
just came up with this avahi failed, hal daemon freeze a couple mins ago.

so should i try from an rpm?

did you get the checksums of the iso before you burnt it

no no no

hodges, yum is from rpm

yes.

and the sha1sums matched?

The utility unrar is not in your PATH.

it was a good package, yes.

Please install it or contact your system administrator.

so how do I kill avahi?

boot
type I and manuall turn it off

it hangs on boot.

manually

could somone explain what this means? Cannot open/read repomd.xml file for repository: livna

so is there something I missed or is it just being uncooperative?

where is this repomd.xml?

levi bad mirror

its the mirror i got from the livna site

unrar

from teh rpm

oops wrong keybord

hodges chill a minute
lev1, ame -r

mk

I am @ shell right now in the mnt/sysimage

uname -r rather

kk

the source is offered if that helps, i'ma go smoke a cigarette

Mindlab, boot off the hard drive

2.6.20-berry

sh-3.2# (/mnt/sysimage/)

wth is that

its built on fc6

it wont boot off the hard drive.. it hanfgs on Starting HAL Daemon.. this is the problem.

custom kernels we cant help with

yeah, hmmm, bummer on that count, but wouldnt the repository still work?

after the avanthi dies

i mean the others do

lev1, yum clean all
and try again

unless there is some magical way I can 'kill avahi' before it starts parsing the loadup?

kk

can someone help me to turn on the DRI in miy FC 5?
!

not if you keep doing !

D:

biomega, what video card

ATI MOBILITY Radeon X300
i have installed the drivers correctly from livna

VilegentL Rebooting

Every time I run `rpm` I get this: /etc/selinux/targeted/contexts/files/file_contexts: Multiple same specifications for /usr/local/lost\+found/.*.
:/

Anyone familiar with "screenlets.i386" running under FC7 ?

inclusive i'm runing compiz

ati and compiz dont mix

Vilegent:Unompressing Linux.... booting kernal... GUI loads up...
Vilegent... ok now its going down the list... starting daemons

VileGent i have follow that tuto

Vilegent... Starting Avahi daemon.. [FAILED] Starting HAL daemon (hangs here for indefinate)

biomega, then you would have disables compiz and aiglx as they in that howto

so how can I kill avahi?

okay! I've got the lappy upgraded to F7, I just need to change the "resume" device from hda2 to sda2 -- grepping init.d for "resume" doesn't seem to be finding anything though...

ok, its still not working, i went to the livna site and downloaded the rpm, unpacked it, got the three repo's out of the etc directory in teh rpm, and put them in etc/yum.repo.d and still not working... is there just something wrong with the site?

mindCrime, befor called that you can press I capitol I and be to manually enable and disable deamons as you them

awesome kk

opps Mindlab

I've been using the GUI way too long. Now there is a problem with my GUI and I can't get it to work well. Whats a irc thingy for the command line?
irc client

RyanRyan52, irssi
RyanRyan52, Or BitchX

nirc

thanks

i dont think livna is up anymore

Mindlab, remove rhgb quiet on the grubline

ok I'll try that.

lev1, its working for me
lev1, rom -q livna-release
rpm -q livna-release rather
paste your /etc/yum.repos.d/livna.repo to the pastebin

kk

okay, linux hates my computer. I had this problem on Ubuntu and now that I switched to Fedora I have it on here too. My problem is that when I switch the Ctrl+Alt+F1 (I don't know what its called) something happens to GNOME. When I switch back to Ctrl+Alt+F7 its just flickering white. How can I fix it?

http://rafb.net/p/4lYVpM42.html

anyone care to help me now?

RyanRyan52, that sounds like your video card or driver
hodges, rpm -q unrar

I have disabled avahi on boot, should I also disable HAL on boot? It wont load without killing it @ bootup

says not installed, yum said it installed

no hal is needed

So how do I fix it?

RyanRyan52, some info would help

okay, 1 minute

hodges, uname -r

alos, replace rhgb quiet with acpi=off right?
*also

2.6.21-1.3194.fc7

in the grub

lev1, hardcode the release

did you catch that url? also it seems to be looking for a repmod.xml file. is that correct?

anyone use linux terminal server project?

My mother board is intel DG965WH. It has onboard Intel GMA x3000. and I'm using FC6.

i am suspecting since you are not truely running fedora doesnt know what to do

what do you mean hardcode
well is it asking for the right file?

ok so when i type yum install unrar it says noth ing to do

the right xml listing

does rpm -q unrar show it is installed?

from the documentation this is basically fc6 its just got a few mods for better nvidia support and runs beryl right off the bat and stuff
i dont think the base kernel code was touched

http://rpm.livna.org/fedora/$releasever/$basearch/ go to rpm.livna.org and put the path in your yum .conf
livna.repo

STARTING HAL DAEMON [FAILED] .. uh
but it booted lol

kk

Mindlab, at this point my suggestion reinstall

so acpi=off is the solutuon for no FTP authentication working..?

have you looked at /var/log/messages?

haha

no

yes

Mindlab, did you open the firewall

yes
and added 21 to ip tables

for ftp to get in

yep

what about 20

no, I thought it installed but it won't
Nothing to do

I can open 20... in iptables or router or both?

hodges, ok was this a yum upgraded fc6 to f7 machine?

ha, ok, someone help me out. I'm trying to come up with a real funny job advertisement. so far the duties I have are resetting forgotten passwords, and fixing "broken" computers by plugging them in. what else?

anyone know of a good text to speech application for Linux (ala viaVoice) that can read pdf files?

Mindlab, both

if you do a yum search unrar do you see unrar??

yes, I do see unrar
no, it's fc7 fresh

yum clean all
yum install unrar

man, you guys are no fun...

on my clean install of F7 (last night) I do not see unrar by default

Mathman, busy at the moment

if I do a yum search unrar
have you added other repos?

Authentication failed.

unrar is in livna repo

yes, I have looked at var/log/message.. I even sent debug info for proftpd to rafb

locate kernel

and what does google say about that error

does yum have a fix? like apt-get -f install?

version
should I locate the kernel version?

uname -r

and check for support?

I uninstalled proftpd and tried with vsftpd.. no luck.. uninstalled that.. trying now with pure-ftpd that comes with FC7

i meant for hal

(sorry, the first half got cut off)

lev1, you problem is self created
your not running fedora

hey, i can't get files i want to be added to the yum.repos.d folder, it says i don't have adiquate permissions... How do i deal with this?

be root

doesn't show it anymore
i swear it did earlier

i tried to become root, but it doesn't want to stay root

so I should install from rpm then?

hodges rpm -q livna-release

shakysv87, how are you trying to become root?

package livna-release is not installed

by terminal

yes, with what command?

how

i was messing with the visudo something or other file to give me permissions

use "su -"

:P

command not found

"command not found?" A: Run the command AS ROOT after switching users with "su --login" or "su -" in order to get root's command PATH so the command WILL be found; don't run "su" by itself. If it's still not found, then either it's not installed in a standard path location (echo $PATH), is not executable (chmod a+x), is in your current dir (./runme), or you've spelled it incorrectly.

why?

ferrum, because you need to reverse the polarity of /dev/null

shankysv87, read the post from zcat

ok, i don't understand what that means

opened port 20 .. 530 error auth failed
I think its a PAM related issue....

su doesnt give you the correct root path where su - does

sorry, i'm new to linux (i switched two days ago)

aha

bu not sure

su switches your user to root but preserves your environment

i see

su --login (or "su -") creates the root environment and switches your user.
usu --login (or "su -") creates the root environment and switches your user./u

do that

ok...

then su -c 'yum install unrar'

thanks yall.. going to try it now

god I would really hate to have to reinstall this os again
..........
like the 8th time

Mindlab, quit messing it up

I didnt even bork it

yes you did LOL
give me a few to check something

Mindlab, let me tell you about frustration
frustration is installing Fedora on this new laptop, here
then configuring everything
and figuring out that Dell put a "MediaCenter" button on the front that corrupts my hard drive every time I press it.
then having many random people come up and press it. Over and over again.

thats nothing
frustration is thinking migrating from win2k3 r2 and plesk was a good move... so far, I have lost over $20k in 2 weeks.

Wow.. that sounds pretty bad..

$20k? how?!

clients.

plesk yuck

Why not do the migration after proper testing, etc.?

yeah I hated plesk.. I was like "OK linux !"

Mindlab, ;_;

Southern_Gentlem, can you point me to the ipwxxxx / Fedora 7 updated install instructions?

you probably should have researched first..

hello everone, is there any way to boot a KVM guest machine with an ISO other than the one used to install?

well I did.

wait, you're providing a server?

Then what happened that lost that much money?

sorry to bother. I am having trouble with seeing scsi drives. I am not sure what to type at startup.

You should not be using Fedora for mission-critical servers :O
Use CentOS, man!

ok
screw fedora.. going centos
thanks

holy ra

Yeah- I wouldn't have used Fedora for something like that either.
Sad.
Talk about impulse decisions.

Southern_Gentlem, nevermind. I found it.

anyone?

I like how he just takes my advice without questioning it

so.. how do i move files from one directory (my desktop) to yum.repos.d?

tinh_, yes.

Hi there, I am using fedora core 6 and I have a JVC harddisk video camera that I want to connect.. I figured that it would mount like a USB flash stick, only.. it doesnt.. Anybody an idea what I can do?

mv source destination

if the iso is bootable yes you can :P

mv ~/Desktop/file /etc/yum.repos.d

aTypical, ipw3945 yes newer than that use ndiswrapper

ok thanks

You'll need to be root to write that directory, of course.

i'm set to that thanks

hello openbysource, nice to meet you again

Hi, VileGent. I forgot you've been hanging around EvilBob again.

tinh_, can you please tell me what version of libvirt you have. just check rpm -q libvirt

anyone know how to activate scsi support?

ok now if i do yum info unrar it shows up
and gives me info

openbysource, it's libvirt-0.2.2-4.fc7
openbysource, I think it's the latest from the repo

(Sorry about that)

tinh_, there is a update to this version. libvirt-0.2.3 that is in testing/ will i guess soon come to updates/ i used it and it let me boot live cd's of fedora.

hmm.. its saying no such file or destination
but i'm giving the right destinations

openbysource, I created a virtual machine, installed CentOS on it, it runs fine, but know I want to boot that machine with another DVD ISO, like Knoppix
openbysource, to do some backup practice
openbysource, can I do that?

let me finish one thing at a time.. sorry.. how do i get my user as root?
permanently

su -

tinh_, currently there is no such thing that let you add or remove or change a cdrom/iso device in a currently installed vm via virt-manager afaik

shankysv87, you dont run as root at all times that is stupid and asking to be hacked

openbysource, that's the bad thing , btw, can I resize the disk of the guest OS after creating?

does linux not believe in drag and drop technology?

i've always heard that about running as root, but why is root more insecure?

gnome has drag and drop.

?? you can drag and drop in linux

tinh_, yes. you can add a storage device from via virt-manager.

Not when the user doesn't have access to the destination directory.

oh haha.
we've been through this already..

ok, so as root, i still don't have permissions to the yum.repos.d folder

0 PM) riczho: shankysv87: mv ~/Desktop/file

i tried that

and it was moved, yes?

nope

you ran that command as root, yes?

correct

And what happened instead of what you expected?

tinh_, but if you really want to have a iso to be available for boot inside your vm i would suggest to look into the xml file of the vm. that is in /etc/libvirt/qemu/ and for more info on the xml syntax of this http://libvirt.org

no such file or direcotry

after he used su - ~ was a different directory

directory

*oh jesus*

but i typed it in correctly

If you're root, you may need to replace ~/Desktop/file with ~username/Desktop/file

what's your login?

shankysv87, you have to modify the command such that "file" is the FILENAME OF THE FILE YOU WANT TO MOVE.

Shanky

wolsni, no! no hacking! bad bad!

ferrum, i'm not that stupid, i realized that and did so

it should be mv ~Shanky/Desktop/whatever /etc/yum.repos.d/

mv ~username/Desktop/file /etc/yum.repos.d

then there is no reason the command did not work.

Replace "username" with your normal username.

openbysource, many thanks, I took a look at those XML files already, but I didn't know about the syntax of it

ok, i figured it out, i was puting a / infront of "username" of which i preplaced with Shanky

tinh_, http://libvirt.org/format.html

openbysource, I'm looking at it now

hi all

slack and centos don't have network install like fedora does do they? this comp only has a cd drive don't feel like burning 6 cds

centos have network install. no idea about slack never used it

CentOS can network install- don't know about Slackware.

thanks guy for baring with my ignorance, i'm sure ill be back in a little while..

slackware _

Perhaps the slackware channel might know more about their network install functionality.

anyone can tell me how I can kill automaticaly a process when I shutdown? I installed fedora ds on fedora7 and I get a init script but i need one to kill so it closes the ldap database so it doesn't corrupt any help please? thanks

off

The initscript doesn't have a stop command?

sphenis, the initscript is added to chkconfig database ?

yes i used chkconfig fedora-ds on

kinda odd centos doesn't have bittorrent links

afaik it has torrent links

riczho yes it have, but in /rc5.d it uses S20fedora-ds, but it doesn't have any K*

I'm seeding the torrent atm

i'm trying to get linux experience so I can eventually get a job as a network technician (almost have my associates in networking). I thought I'd try fedora since I heard a lot of businesses use red hat, but which version would be most practical for me?

i'm a newbie, so sorry if i make stupid questions

http://www.centos.org/modules/smartfaq/faq.php?faqid=24

sphenis, the kill script should be in /rc0.d or /rc6.d i guess

I'm trying really hard to get it right and read a lot before I try here

if you want to learn RH for the enterprise, use Centos

Hi there, I am using fedora core 6 and I have a JVC harddisk video camera that I want to connect.. I figured that it would mount like a USB flash stick, only.. it doesnt.. Anybody an idea what I can do?

I'll try that openbysource

if you want to learn RH for the engineering release, use Fedora

phoenixz, if it mounts like a usb flash stick then it should be listed in lsusb. and probably fdisk -l output will be needed to know whether it's showing up there

that talks about using bittorrent in centos doesn't give a link

If you look at the bottom, it says that they're located in the same dir as the isos.

hodges, centos website does gives the link. if you search over there more patiently

so you're saying centos is more closely related to redhat enterprise than fedora is?

And the "link" they give is http://mirror.centos.org/centos/$releaseversion/isos/$arch/

openbysource nope. in rc0.d and in rc6.d there is a killall, but i think it corrupts the ldap databse

Centos is a (licenced) clone of RHEL

this monitor is small and hurts my eyes, I need to get my glasses out of my car

centos is a rebuild from the red hat sources

lsusb doesnt show the device

fdisk -l ?

nada..

so fedora isn't?

sphenis, well if you really care what happens during the service is shut down have a look into the initscript. /etc/init.d/fedora-ds

no
fedora != RHEL

phoenixz, how do you attach the camera to your system

so how is fedora related to redhat?

redhat pays most of the bills

fedora contains new technology. This technology may or may not at a later point be incorporated into RHEL.

usb 2.0

Well, it's sponsored by Redhat.

fedora is the community project of redhat

hodges, i would suggest to look into fedora's website for more information. http://fedoraproject.org

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAQ#head-6625a0c6446570580049f3c17aaa7ae76f8a669d

rhel is the enterprise version

we try to create a stable bleeding-edge system. Redhat notices what's stable, and creates RHEL out of that.
More or less.

phoenixz, are you sure you have attached the camera to a usb port of your computer ?

openbysource I've done that. can't I create a say... K20fedora-ds using the same as S20fedora-ds? It wont shutdown the fedora-ds?

centos == rhel without the redhat copyrighted stuff

no red hats ;[

Yeah... I just only figured it was not turned on.. duh.. let me try again

hence the expression "engineering release"

and most important commercial support

not to be offensive, but what's the practical use for fedora? for home systems? I need to practice scripting for servers etc.

Here is dumboooo! it works

Is anyone using Bluecurve with Fedora 7? I'm noticing my icons in the panel are slightly blurry.

phoenixz, lol
sphenis, that would be insane

fedora is basically the testbed for the next version of rhel

hodges, practical use is to develop and improve the latest technology, whether by developing or filing bug reports.
for the end user, it's to be given the latest tech.

Well, it's a nice distro with a good community and somewhat new versions of software, etc.

sphenis, all running services have to shut down when the system shut down

So yeah- I personally use it as my desktop OS.

so how is centos different from fedora?

centos is RHEL without the branding.

centos is rhel

hodges, cent is a rebuild of rhel.

Similar to the way that RHEL is different from Fedora.

openbysource yep that i know. But it seems that I get my fedora-ds ldap database corrupted when i shutdown

no

sphenis, and you saying to start it during system shut down ? as i told earlier if you want to change the behaviour it exhibit when the stop() is called you look into it's initscript

rhel is different from fedora in many ways

RHEL is guaranteed to be stable. It doesn't update to new versions.

hodges I'm a newbie so what i say can be wrong. I tried centos5 and fedora7

but the difference between rhel and centos isn't one of them

rhel does gets update. rhel4 is currently under update 5.

the diference for me is that fedora is like a test system

but most of them are security updates and critical bug fixes

is like... try in the wild before using it in Red Hat

rhel is what people pay for, so stability is it's main focus

I didn't say taht they were similar. I said that CentOS differs from Fedora in a similar way to how RHEL differs.
**that

so if I want to learn scripting and the basics of the system, would fedora or centos be better?

fedora has today what you will see everywhere tomorrow

sorry, that doesn't make sense
bingo

I prefer poker

shouldn't really matter tbh

sphenis, fedora is not a test system. It is an operating system that is defined by 1) free software, and 2) incorporating the latest technology. We don't include beta releases generally, so nothing is really being tested, only further proven.

centos5 is the same as RHEL5 whitout support

guess i'll stick with fedora then

For something that general, either would work (pretty much any distro, actually)

Servers

Desktops

kk

centos is rhel without redhat licensing

ferrum sorry. I'm portuguese so i use simple words... i have no intention to say bad about fedora... is my choice! )))

riczho, fedora differs from RHEL in so many ways. CentOS is basically a recompile of RHEL without the redhat trademarks

Basically, the difference between RHEL and Fedora is similar to the difference between CentOS and Fedora. Sorry if my statement was unclear.

after trying centos5 i choose fedora7

yeah, that's kinda right

hehe

riczho, i don't think so.

Yes, I know.

Someone that is learning systems administration should have at least a rpm and deb based system to learn on

now I need to start learning python

Hi there! I have DVD files somewhere on my harddrive.. How can I have a movie player access that directory as if it were a DVD?

hodges, pff, that's easy.

Really? Why not?

is there a good fedora begginers tutorial that you guys know of so I won't have to keep bugging you with questions?

yeah, if you are gonna be in the biz... you need to learn rhel...

a BSD and a slackware would not hurt

hodges, for what, python?

phoenixz, you need to have vlc. or something like that in order to play dvds

for fedora

www.fedorasolved.org www.fedorafaq.com

for the most part, linux in the enterprise is either RHEL or SLES

I have mplayer.. that will do?

fedora and rhel are backed by redhat. centos and fedora. well centos is not backed by redhat. riczho

Depends on specifically what you want to do. There usually aren't tutorials for general things like "learning scripting and the basics of the system"

malikeye, or SuSE

i imagine so

centos isn't backed by redhat

easy maybe but the syntax is kinda weird, my school uses MS products so I know mostly BASIC. QuickBasic, FreeBasic, VisualBasic.NET, VBSCRIPT

SLES == SuSE

hodges, re-educate yourself, NOW.

When I said that, it was in the context of functionality/purpose, not backing company.

Then, how would I tell mplayer to access it as a dvd?

riczho, you didn't mentioned the context.

Don't worry- as long as you understand the concepts, syntax is pretty easy to figure out.

hodges, "It is practically impossible to teach good programming style to students that have had prior exposure to BASIC; as potential programmers they are mentally mutilated beyond hope of regeneration. (Edsger Dijkstra)"

phoenixz, what file type you have

i think that riczho was tryin to say was that F - R = F - C therefore R = C

VB is still highly marketable

the first thing I ever coded was in VB.

ha, I'm screwed. I learned assembly first pretty much

just like cobol is still around

I think these are not even DVD files..

haha

I see .moi and .mod files.. They come from the JVC harddrive camera

use midentify from the command line to see if mplayer can make any sense of them

the teachers who taught it to me also know java, C++, C#, etc. so they're not ignorant
it's just the powers that be that tell them what to teach

Not trying to suggest anything, but in general, knowing a lot of languages doesn't exempt you from being ignorant

get vmware-server (it's no charge) install several distros and see what you like, then run something else

java and C++ look kind of scary but I need to learn them at least a little

Yup- school administration is generally annoying/politics-filled.

gives me nothing... I execute midentify on one of those files and after some 10 seconds I am back at command prompt

if you're planning on learning both, learn C first


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