thinking about maybe writing mod_vhost_dbd typically such modules are restricted to setting DocumentRoot by ServerName|Alias

CheapWebHosting.co.nz

Ive got an apache server at a colo w- redundant DNS setup at other colos acrosss the US Im trying to figure out
Im trying to migrate 164 of our domains over from Apache 13x to 223 Id like to offline all of the sites until
I enabled php support for whole site and want disable it for one Directory how I can do it

che*

this works on apache2, but my production server host is 1.3 which is very unfortunately annoying

1.3 uses the older posix regexen but i don't see anything in your rules which should fail.. about the \, do you mean to specifically allow that?

any help guys

what?

also, given that you're sending /page/whatever to /page.php, you'd be better off using AcceptPathInfo On & Options MultiViews than mod_rewrite

i don't see any "\"

it's there in your rule as clear as day

i thought \ is to escape the /?

there's no need to escape / in regexen

unless you're using perl and / is a delimeter

I have a domain host name how doi add it to the website running on my server?

your question is too vague to answer. have you tried reading the manual at all?

isn't acceptpathinfo a apache 2 thing?

noodl, I cant see antthing telling me how to add my domain i bought to my website running on my home server.

so it is.. iirc it's on by default in 1.3
that's probably because you don't understand the question you're asking. what have you tried so far and in what way didn't it do what you expected?

noodl i donwload the Phpnts but i think the apache non-ssl isn't compatible with him
i'm right?

i suggest if you're a complete newbie at this...
you start learning how making your own server works
how the internet works, etc. etc.

eh? that's Phpnts?

noodl the problem is i try to config a script to make a connection SSH

you'll have to learn a bit of DNS and routing too

so i download php php web hosting 5.2.3 Non-thread-safe Win32 binaries [9,523Kb] - 01 June 2007
http://www.php.net/downloads.php

http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=1868&page=1

all this is ok

this is a good beginners article... but you may have to read up much more than this

pressingonalways, Well i set up mysql hosting apache2 php and have a website running that i can view on 127.0.0.1 all i want to do is allow others to view it with the domain name i bought

now when i config the php the apache return me error when try to work with the php_ssh2.dll

ok seriously.. lol.. say i have a round robin DNS and it points to multiple servers.

i think the apache isn't compatible with this PHP

did you have a question about apache, rather than php?

read the article...

noodl the question is about APache

and do not come back to us with any questions until you have read every single page

Pitoniso, php host work fine with apache

Why i have a error when try to work to the php_ssh2.dll

what's php_ssh2?

noodl just a minute enter here http://www.php.net/manual/es/ref.ssh2.php
noodl just a minute enter here a href="http://www.php.net/manual/es/ref.ssh2.php"http://www.php.net/manual/es/ref.ssh2.php/a

pressingonalways, xp ouch i dont touch ms

i have no clue what you're doing... but PHP doesn't have anything to do with ssh
keep reading... the principles are all the same

no, sorry. please try asking on ##php.. this isn't an apache question

fu... noodl men only a asking a little help here pls!!

i'd rather not have to reach for my banstick but you're pushing it.. how to configure php to access ssh servers is clearly a question about php, not apache.

noodl uff ok sorry
my apologiz

my english is sucks i speak spannish

there are at lesat two spannish speakers on the channel at the moment so you're welcome to try asking in your native tongue, as long as you have a question about apache

noodl jaja better i think my questin before sait
noodl

yes Pitoniso?

noodl jeje pls be paciencia with my

ok, i'll try

ok thx
look this line in my conf apache
LoadModule php5_module "C:/Servidor/PHP/php5apache2_2.dll"
When i decoment this line the apache gifme a error
no StarUp

what is the error message?
which version of apache are you running, and which version of windows?

Show me a Windows say this The request operation has failed!!
This happend with the PHP 5.2.3 Non-thread-safe Win32 binaries [9,523Kb] - 01 June 2007
When i agree in my php.ini this ext extension=php_ssh2.dll

which version of apache are you running, and which version of windows?

2.2.4 Non-SSL
noodl when i install this other version
PHP 5.2.3 zip package [9,617Kb] - 01 June 2007
and i agree the line extension=php_ssh2.dll
in my php.ini
The Apache say I don't find the specifc module

does mod_php load ok without that extension?

so i install the first version i show you..
if i comment the line extension=php_ssh2.dll in my php.ini the apache work fine
noodl ooo no no
Dont work anyway

one moment Pitoniso my client's being wierd

noodl now i comment the line #LoadModule php5_module "C:/Servidor/PHP/php5apache2_2.dll"
noodl ok sorry

ok, so php just doesn't work at all, regardless of whether or not you load this ssh module?

noodl i need this version of php webhosting to work with the dll to make ssh connection
but apache dont work with him
i dont know why

neither do i. have you tried asking in ##php?
step zero

step zero is to insert a linux hosting or BSD CD

noodl thx man

step infinity

step infinity is to kick henke37

and step pi is to raid niq's kitchen

mmm

mmm, bacchanalian fruits, doctor

tag can't I use AddType text/plain .c .cpp to show these sources as plain text in a browser?
utag can't I use AddType text/plain .c .cpp to show these sources as plain text in a browser?/u

can't get it to work....

how isn't it working CaptainMorgan?

url?

tell us a URL where the problem happens

noodl, it's asking to download the source

browser cache

Browser caches can be very persistent. Restarting the browser, or even rebooting, will not necessarily clear the cache. You must expressly clear the cache via the menus.

bah

humbug

thansk

:p
back to .th in a week =D

aaargh! itsa Morbus
mmm, spicy noodls!

like you wouldn't believe
oh and i get to go back to the dentist that screwed my mouth up and get it fixed
kea was 100% right that attending the dentist when you've not got any dental problems would be a mistake...

heh. take local advice

Hey. Is there a straightforward way to set up Apache with ssl hosting on a winDOZE box?
I'm a nube.

mm, if i took local advice i'd be fit and healthy from eating all that fruit
some habits die hard
you'll need to get it from elsewhere as i don't think the asf publish a precompiled server with ssl for doze. try
apachelounge

apachelounge is Dwww.apachelounge.com and has Windows binaries of a number of modulesLhttp://www.apachelounge.com/download/ to get directly to the download page.

Sweet, thanks.
Later.

thinking about maybe writing mod_vhost_dbd. typically such modules are restricted to setting DocumentRoot by Server(Name|Alias).. couple of questions.. do they create server_recs at runtime or piggyback on a single server_rec? if not, would there be any use if having an alternate mode that created server_recs from the db at startup?
*in having

if it's lots of vhosts, then a different server rec for each would be too expensive
unless perhaps we had some deepish hack to hold server_recs in a hash

the low hanging fruit is just porting mod_vhost_dbi to use apr_dbd

yeah. bug chipig about that

but i'm wondering how it might be possible to allow for fairly arbitrary config directives
presumably not at all at runtime, so maybe by faking the config file from a db at startup? not sure if there's any advantage to that over just scripting the creation of the config file in apachectl

well, I'd start by looking at hashing server_recs
or even replacing server_rec with a functional interface, so your module could create a separate instantiation of it from the trad. one

anyone else got boxes there? texas DC is down..

that's way over my head lemme finish reading your book

that's closer to the apache core than anything my book teaches you

Anyone know why a handle leak occurs when using apr_thread_create and a detached thread on windows?

but the crux of what you want is how you deal with the server_rec
nope. Maybe you need to register an apr_pool cleanup? Or try #apr.

hey there ...!
i was wondering if a debug mod is available on apache for rewriteEngine ...
i checked google but nothing interesting

rewritelog

rewritelog is http://httpd.apache.org/docs-2.0/mod/mod_rewrite.html#rewritelog http://httpd.apache.org/docs/mod/mod_rewrite.html#rewritelog. Use this logging to help design and track rewrite; see also rewriteloglevel; and cannot be used from .htaccess

ok thanks

stop it already
i've been back what, all of 2 minutes

if i've followed the script at all server_recs are created at startup and pointed to in request_rec before the post_read_request hook and shared by all threads (when they're present). so could a module create a server_rec from the db and use that to replace r-server?

good luck with thinking through the implications of that:-)
but there are lots of resources on the server_rec, so that's a lot of copying. Can you keep that down to just copying pointers without arriving straight back at square one?
ubut there are lots of resources on the server_rec, so that's a lot of copying. Can you keep that down to just copying pointers without arriving straight back at square one?/u
but if you can crack that, you've made a big advance in one of apache's main markets.

where square one is just funging the doc_root in the present server_rec? good point

No! gryzor is to blame!

fajita++
actually ... you could get away with something like that ...

where does DocumentRoot live? r-server-module_config?

nope

can't see it in httpd.h

goto its docs page for who is responsible for it
or grep around it:-)

hi all

All is not in today, steinchen

i want to prevent one directory index to be listet from browsing to - but the files inside (html/php/swf) should still be accessible when you know the url. any directive in the conf or htaccess ?

Options -Indexes

Options -Indexes turns off directory indexing. Ask me about mod_autoindex and Options for more details.

ty. can i place that in a .htaccess aswell?

yep, if you've got AllowOverride Options set

got that.. hows the syntax please?
tired for rtfm, sry
reading

There is no difference between someone who cannot read and one who will not.

that's a nice one

doing already.. thanks again
worked ty

Hi gryzor

Hello, I have a webserver that uses an iframe, as well as IndexOptions, and lists files.txt. I need to know if it's possible to format a txt document so that when someone clicks on it, it's not black text on a black background, any solutions?

you cant

it delievers the file as text/plain, the browser reders it

ok
figured there might be a module, or an httpd.conf directive

hi, Antony1122.

i need a little help

ask to ask?

ask?

If you have an apache related question, please go ahead and ask it. We will not beat it out of you. We won't bite you either, at least until we get to know you better

whats the console address?
for apache

127.0.0.1?

127.0.0.1 is Ayour address. Works fine for testing if you don't have a real IP%domain name. Also known as localhost

console? as in telnet? apache doesnt have a console

because it seems the only way for me to update it is through the program files
no, like a control panel

apache doesnt have one itself
third parties may distribute them

do you know of any free web servers that come with a console?
to control it from a remote location

why?

because, heres my problem

any decent console system is not goin to be free, and even the expensive ones suck

i have 4 different computers in my house
and reguarly update my website
although i usually update it on the computer that doesnt contain the server
and was wondering if this is something i could come by?

you dont need to mess with the server to update the files it serves

how would i upload new files to it remotely

ftp?

ftp is a rather insecure protocol primarily used to announce your shell password to the world. or better replaced by ssh/scp/sftp in most cases or mod_dav in other cases a cause of "No such file or directory" in CGI scripts, if you transfer as binary with DOS lineends

how do you update them now?

because the way im doing it is, signing on a different msn account on the other computer
and dumping them into a shared file

what OS is the server?

then copying over the files
its on XP

use windows file sharing then
or setup an ftp server

how do i set up one of them?

the web server is not responsible for managing the content it serves
RTFM

RTFM is your friend or Read The Friendly Manual at http://httpd.apache.org/

whats RTFM?

RTFM is your friend or Read The Friendly Manual at http://httpd.apache.org/

hi guys. does anyone know about setting up apache with the svn module so i can browse repos in websites?

how old are you?

you dont need to set that up unless you are serving the repos your self. in which case, read chatper 6 of the book
i can tell

missed a decimal point 1.8

lol

i am running fc6, and am getting a 403 error... i have the owner of the repo (/svn/repo ) set to apache

what does the error log say, exactly?

www.example.de/asfd)

hi, DHX.

read chapter six of http://www.svnbook.org/
Redirect

use .htaccess

I have RewriteRule ^/*$ but this only seems to match the root (/) of the server

wrong
msp ^/.*$

ok, im wrong, im young lol

ah ok cool thanks a lot

how do i set up a FTP between computers?

age has little to do with it, experience more
all your computers are windows based?

step zero

use windows file sharing then

step zero is to insert a Linux or BSD CD

hes not ready for linux yet

wheres that?

so the /* would have matched ///////// and the . looks for every possible char?

wow

[ Dene] Hi, I'm trying to get php running for Apache 2.2, Win 98se...

mps yeah

ok thanks

at least its not windows ME

I have a rewrite rule that proxy all request to a zope server. Yet I want that when you do a request on http://host/php/page.php (a page in the dir php) you access the page /home/www/page.php. I know I have to use a ScriptAlias fr that, but I'm just wondering if I have to indicate in the rewritecond to do nothing if the url match ^/php/(.+)

how do I get ssl logs in my error log? I used to use SSLLog but that appears to be depricated and my errors say see SSL log

I mean is the scriptalias tried before or after the rewriterule ?

where is windows sharing?

handler?

handler is a program that runs on the server to generate content

gimmie a link you stinky bot

a good question now is why are you trying to run a web server?

to host my site for free without ads

good luck with that

like geocities, massive ads

free hosting is impossible these days

i know, loads of adds

you either pay cash, or in time spent reading how to admin stuff yourself

but cheap, good hosting exists

dreamhost.com
sweet shit if you want to shell out the money
which is barely anything if you have a job

i get these errors: Could not fetch resource information. [403, #0]
The URI does not contain the name of a repository

is it possible to alter REQUEST_URI (specially using mod_rewrite) ?

[403, #190001]

verbatim

Verbatim means "word for word" "copy and paste". It means we want the exact error message from the error log. That also means use a pastebin for 3 lines. Ask me about 'apc' for which pastebin to use.

blarp

blarp is see sneex

that looks like a svn error.

how would i change txt files from being sent to browsers as text/plain
i want them to be sent as text/html

what are you trying to accomplish here?

so my css rules will format them to the appropriate color
im getting black text on black bdkgrd

they would have to have the css include line inside the file as well

is it okay that the repo is at /svn/repo instead of in /var/www etc
?

the repo can be anywhere EXCEPT in the DocumentRoot

imMute, how about Handler

they would have to have the css include line inside the file as well

every text file thats clicked, gets sent to a cgi/perl script
formatted
then sent back to their browser
?

so clicking on a text file gets you to /script.pl not /file.txt ?

mod_txt

niq, are you serious

of course

imMute, yeh, script.pl with the txt file as the $ENV{'QUERY_STRING'}
it would work
but i think niq's suggestion is worth looking at first

so have script.pl output the correct header and css style info

brb
wth

wth is Sager

i just got mod_txt
its a single .c file
with nothing for help
it just has the httpd.conf directives....
how would i install it as a module in apache?

apxs

apxs is for building modules as DSOs, and is put into the Apache /bin/ directory by 'make install' or http://httpd.apache.org/docs-2.0/programs/apxs.html or for debian, called 'apxs2' for windows, see: http://perl.apache.org/dist/win32-bin/

got it built and installed
playtime

Why would you want to mod_deflate only certain MIME types?
Is there some sort of downside?

besides the wasting of cycles compressing already compressed files?

AddOutputFilterByType DEFLATE text/html text/plain
That's what I have.

yep

Should I not add GIF, JPEG?

you want to compress jpeg ??

And RAR and ZIP etc.

why would you try to compress an already compressed file?

Dunno. I want as little bandwidth to be wasted as possible.
Wow...

[ polpol] is there nicer program than nice; when i try copy something like movie my comp almost freeze... nice -n 20 cp ...

those files aren't gonna compress anymore

"troll" is being abused every fucking day whatever you say.
gryzor must be smelling himself.

as a matter of fact there could be times when compressing an already compressed file will make for bigger output

Hmm.
What other non-compressed MIME types could there be?

mostly text files

i'll remain cold blooded, since after all, i somehow started it

That's already covered by text/plain.

i dont have to though

Maybe XML for RSS feeds?

you need to be careful of msie not supporting compressed js/css over a certain size

That I definitely want to compress.

i don't remember the details but it's geborkened

probably

probably is the same as 'definitely not' when dealing with important or critical applications - if you're not sure, don't let 'probably' suffice

xml, html, source code files (except js files)
plain text
you could possibly do raw images

Wait... aren't .js and .css both served as text/plain?

if you had raw images...
they might have their own mime type
not sure though

they do but they're typically wrong

Are they supposed to have their own MIME types?

i've got compression on those disabled...

according to a recent standard javascript should be application/javascript or application/ecmascript but no browsers support that
typically they're text/javascript and text/css respectively

Why do you say it's bad to compress those files?

msie has a bug with compressed js files

it's not, but msie will barf

Oh, great. I thought at least HTTP stuff was done right in MSIE.

it's not
:P

:|
God damn MSIE.
Costing me money in every way.
MSIE is like a black hole sucking in time, energy and money.

wasnth there some sort of content length issues with mod_deflate and css's?

yeah, it only decompresses the first n bytes or something

mod_txt failed
niq :/
what a headache that was

http://apache.pastebin.ca/565156

anyhow thanks for trying to help

According to Firefox, my Apache sends .css as "text/css".

that's the config i use

I cannot tell about .js.

usually those files are tiny... compressing them may or may not matter much...

Hmm.

problem is with the frickin' browser bugs...

Hi, I have a problem where sendmail causes double mails, anyone has an Idea?

#mta

ask in #sendmail?

Why can't browsers AT LEAST get HTTP 1.1 implementation right? Isn't it enough with HTML, CSS, JavaScript, DOM and OS/version bugs?

can mod_rewrite alter REQUEST_URI ?

thats what it does IIRC

ths script still get the original REQUEST_URI
not the altered one

then maybe its not being altered?

it is
just need to pass the altered REQUEST_URI to the script

Hi, I've a Q about proxying; is it possible to get a client to connect to the proxy (apache 2.2) using https in order to access http servers (i.e., not using https)?

yes, easy

forward or reverse proxy?

noirin, forwars
forward

name

be quiet

shutting up

should still be straightforward

I've added "ProxyRequests on" to the VirtualHost env...

http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mod_ssl.html#sslproxyengine

yeow!

maybe. not sure what that directive does

proxyrequests on

proxyrequests on is a big security risk. Don't do it unless you understand exactly why (it's explained in the mod_proxy page)

wrong direction, thats for reverse proxying to SSL backend

k. spunk, talk to arreyder

I've tried using FF 1.5 to connect to the proxy, but it seems that it tries to talk http to the proxy when I access a http-server. It seems that it uses https when I access a https-server though...
arreyder, ok

he just needs a virtualhost with ssl properly configured and proxyrequests on
tell the client to use https://myproxyip/ for http requests

arreyder, yes, that is how I've configured apache. the Q is how to config. the client...? Im using FF 1.5...

sounds good in theory

arreyder, tried that but it spits on me. :-)

whats the error?

motd

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now...

arreyder, wait a sec..

that a Beeblebrox quote?

mmhmm

sounded like him

arreyder, Ok, now I can access servers but Im not sure if FF uses the proxy... when I go to "checkmyip.com" I get the client's IP...

I think we may have to do this via about:config one sec

arreyder, ok...

hmmmm, I dont think the boys and girls over at the mozilla foundation intended for this to happen :/
you could still pull it off though with stunnel
start and stunnel listening on your local machine that connects to the SSL proxy, then define your proxy as http://localhost:someport
that'll do it

arreyder, ok. thats a shame. :-( Im not familiar with stunnel. do i need something on the proxy box to make it fly?
arreyder, ah, ok.

nope, it just handles the SSL part of the connection
stunnel that is, firefox doesnt seem to want to let you build up the tunnel, so we'll cheat

arreyder, ok

should be very simple kinda similar to ssh port forwarding
and wil give you the results you are after

arreyder, yes :-)
arreyder, I might post a request in some mozilla.dev-forum or whatever...

yeah, I dont think what you want to do is unreasonable
I do what you are doing, but I do it ssh portforwarding to the proxy I use

arreyder, are you by any chance familiar with FF's extension API? do you think an extension can add the functionality needed?

same reason, I want to hide my http traffic from thse pesky network admins at work

arreyder, :-)

way out of my league, sorry

arreyder, ok

of course I am the pesky network admin I'm hiding from, so I still get caught :/

arreyder, hehe!
arreyder, thanks a lot for the help anyway! I'll move to some .dev-forum and post a req.
Bye all!

np good luck

something weird is going on. my site on apache is not accessible only from users using firefox idk why. i tried on explorer the message with page could not be displayed appears

what's the last lone of the error page in msie?
and have you checked apache's logs?

noodl, i didn't check logs no

*last line

what does the error log say, exactly?

arreyder, Im back. :-) which version of FF did you try?

lemmie seee
2.0.0.3
on linux

Ok.
I've just installed FF 2.*.4 on Win
And now I can get through at all.
through the proxy that is

using http?

apache is confd to not listen to port 80 at all...
no, trying https
are there any way to log proxy reqs in apache?

it let you specify https for the http proxy?
it should log them to access_log

well, I type https and give port# 443...
ag..
ah.

when I looked at the vales in about:config it looked like it was dead set on using http
values

ok
what is the name of the conf. line?

I just searched for proxy

noodl, in IE it says "Could not find the server or DNS Error" and in apache logs there are no errors

then the server does not resolve.
make it resolve.

thumbs, it should be since it works with FF

are FF and msie running on the same box?

nope

then one box has a working DNS setup, and the other one doesn't

noodl, i tried on my MS box

so each box has a different view of the address you're using. which is?

noodl, and also it doesn't work with the real ip on IE same error

what is the DAMN hostname?
servertokens compengi.kicks-ass.org:8080

Apache/2.2.3 (Ubuntu)

dns compengi.kicks-ass.org

compengi.kicks-ass.org is 85.112.66.238

does that IP work in both machines (85.112.66.238) ?
and use different browsers on the same box.

thumbs, both boxes are on the same internet but one is running linux and other MS

that does not answer my question.

thumbs, then what do you mean

I meant what I said.

does that IP work in both machines (85.112.66.238) ?
and use different browsers on the same box.

thumbs, what does "that IP work in both machines" mean exactly?

connect to the IP using your browser.

thumbs, i tried as i have said
thumbs, same result

try with FF on wintendo.

arreyder, the proxy implementation in FF seems just wierd... when i typ https://proxy and port#0 it just ignores the proxy settings. If I dont type https but port#443, apache replies that I should not talk http on the https port (which is correct). If i use https://proxy and port#443 then FF says that the target server could not be found...

thumbs, on my pc and other friends running linux or FF especially because i don't know any person running FF on windows my site opens but when it comes to MS or IE it doesn't only 1 friend that uses IE7 my site opened as i was told

putting aside the fact that your sentence gave me a headache, I want you to try this SIMPLE THING.
on the computer where IE is erroring out, install Firefox, and see if it loads under it.

thumbs, and if it does?

then IE is broken.

thumbs, and all people's EI are broken then?

not really. The site seems to resolve fine from fajita's point of view, which leads me to believe that most people can access it just fine.

eee eye eee eye oh

thumbs, same thing that i'm thinking off and astonished why it doesn't.

I told why it happens. Why can't you listen?

thumbs, you told me that IE is broken but when you come to a fact that it's not just 1 single pc to say that maybe the problem is in it's IE. i tried several pc's none worked

it works from here.
check your DNS server, and make sure it resolves the hostname.

thumbs, you us IE?
use*

no , I don't use wintendo.

me either

did compengi say what the url was?

he did

dns compengi.kicks-ass.org

noodl, compengi.kicks-ass.org:8080

ph, thought maybe there'd be an underscore in the name. there goes that theory.

compengi.kicks-ass.org is 85.112.66.238 which is my real ip

so the server is running on your LAN?

thumbs, yes

then add the hostname to your hosts file.

thumbs, i did

with the LOCAL IP
NOT THE EXTERNAL IP

yeah i know

then it'll work locally.
unless you messed up your hosts file.

make sure you're using http:// in the address
msie doesn't assume that for odd port numbers

noodl, i took that into the consideration too

ok, well for me msie barfs on that address without http:// but is fine with it

noodl, are you using IE7?

not right now. xp hosed by vista boot loader

noodl, so on IE6 and the site loads

yep

noodl, weird, i tried on several pc it didn't
pcs*

i'm running feisty with apache 2.x, where does the /var/log/access.log get referenced in a config file?

tell ubuntu-rocks1 about grep

grep

grep is an extremely useful tool. If you want to learn anything, acquaint yourself with grep and grep for it

ubuntu-rocks1: ^^
tell megaspaz about debian

heh

tks guys, anyone here run nagios?

ubuntu-rocks1: ask your question already.

okay thumbs and noodl thanks for you help

ok.

that was the question. i want to install on a production box but want to know if i can turn it off at will in case of performance issues

ubuntu-rocks1: read the documentation that comes with nagios.

tks

ubuntu-rocks1: sorry, but no, nagios cannot be turned off ever. It will ruin your hard disk and kill your family if you do. It's a very revengeful beast.

yango++

haha
+1

very funny indeed
ok, does anyone here use apache synapse in a production environment?

ubuntu-rocks1: do you ever read documentation?

yes, i just want to see if other folks use this, thats all

I have a question...

ask!

If you have an apache related question, please go ahead and ask it. We will not beat it out of you. We won't bite you either, at least until we get to know you better

I have a collection of airline sick bags..

I'm on a LAN network using a linksys router, so we each have the 192.168.1.XXX IP's. I'm running a server on one of the computers and want it to be accessible by the internet or anyone else outside of our network.

router

In order to access your web site behind a router, you must forward the port apache is listening on to your internal IP. Then you can access your site by pointing your browser to http://your external IP here:port. If your ISP blocks port 80, see 'port 80 redirection'. Instructions on how to forward a port using most common routers can be found at http://portforward.com

i'm fairly new to ubuntu and irc so i do apologize if my questions are silly. you guys have been most helpful in the last couple weeks

add the local IP of the box and the hostname to each hosts file on the LAN computers, too

what exactly is a hostname?

how is it different from a URL?

it's the name of a host.

how do i get people over the net to view my website

I'm still trying to solidify my networking terms; i'm a newbie

you tell them the URL.

router

you probably are behind a router, so read what fajita just said

can someone do me a favour and see if you can browse to www.nagios.org. i can't seem to access it. tks

servertokens www.nagios.org

Couldn't get a useful value for http://www.nagios.org

apparently not.

ubuntu-rocks, I can't access it either.

how come i don't see "servername" in my apache2 file

crap. i'm trying to view the docs and install on a test box

you'll need to clarify on that.
what are you trying to do, exactly?

add my ip to "servername" in apache2
i don't see it though

website is back, hurrah

I fail to see what 'Add my ip to "servername"' means
again, what are you trying to do, exactly?

well when i used regular apache i had to add my ip to servername so that poeple could view my site
apache2 i don't see it

...........................
do you know how the DNS system works?

obviously.

i only have my notes from last time i set it up

are you looking for the location of the ServerName directive on a debian-based system?

configure apache to use your hostname in your vhost.
forget about the IP.

oh wait i see now
im supposed to do this in httpd

the nagios quick start docs is for ubuntu 6.10 (desktop) and i'm running feisty, does that matter?

ubuntu-rocks1: try it?
sigh.

hehe, tks

what distro are you using?

debian

debian is "we complicate it for you so you don't have to" or see /usr/share/doc/apache*/README.Debian* or http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/Platform/DebianLike

default layout

Pop along to http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/Info/DistrosDefaultLayout for an idea on where the main distros place Apache files.

hey my httpd.conf is blank

read above ^^

ubuntu-rocks, there might be a nagios irc channel that are more suitable for such questions.

well, that's your problem, hailviral.

read above ^^

why would it be blank

default layout

Pop along to http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/Info/DistrosDefaultLayout for an idea on where the main distros place Apache files.

i never touched it

READ THAT FACTOID NOW.

because you're using debian.

read the above links

dammit

spunk - indeed a nagios channels exist!

no, hailviral has many more issues.

i used redhat 9 before this
not used to this

start reading the factoid now

oh no.

how do i change the configuration for apache to MaxClients 1024 on debian

how can i block access to files/directories matching a pattern?

you edit the configuration files.
filesmacth

huh?

filesmatch

filesmatch is http://httpd.apache.org/docs-2.0/mod/core.html#filesmatch or http://httpd.apache.org/docs/mod/core.html#filesmatch

deny

deny is http://httpd.apache.org/docs-2.0/mod/mod_access.html#deny or http://httpd.apache.org/docs/mod/mod_access.html#deny or http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mod_authz_host.html

^^
default layout

Pop along to http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/Info/DistrosDefaultLayout for an idea on where the main distros place Apache files.

thanks

look there please ^^

and no need recompile apache

no need recompile apache.

if i change only on httpd.conf

i basically want to block all access to .svn directories... this the best way?

read the default layout lini, Now.
use directorymatch instead

tnx thumbs

this would also block everything under it?

yes.

if i place this in an htaccess file, would it apply to the entire site? even though there are multiple directories in subfolders?

works for me

the htaccess is recursive.
however, edit the config instead, if possible.

thanks... have any doc links for directorymatch?

directorymatch

directorymatch is http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/core.html#directorymatch or http://httpd.apache.org/docs/mod/core.html#directorymatch

directorymatch context

server config, virtual host

you'll have to use the config however. It does not run within htaccess.

but filesmatch does?

filesmatch context

server config, virtual host, directory, .htaccess

filesmatch override

filesmatch override is allowed in .htaccess files if AllowOverride is set to FileInfo

indeed, it does.

thanks thumbs

sure.

do i have to restart apache for htaccess files to be recognized? it doesn't seem to be taking

nope

garbage

try putting junk in your htaccess file. If it's being read, you will get an Internal Server Error when accessing that resource.

i do get server error

ok.

but if i go to a file that i know the name of ... such as /.svn/entries... it still pulls up

pastebin your htaccess file. Also, give us a sample url.

http://apache.pastebin.ca/565436
i don't have a url... the server does not have external access yet

router

i know how to open it up, i just can't right now

if I forward port 80 to my computer, how will other computers on my LAN be able to access the internet?
or is that only if someone is initializing a connection?
hello?

Hail, bourreau!

thanks fajita

if only for incoming.
not outgoing.

in my htaccess?

ok, I see
when my server sends a reply, how will the router know where to send it?

nat

nat is vnetwork address translation and the most common reason why trying a servers public ip while behind its NAT doesnt work

port forwarding

Please pass the Fonseca.ee http://portforward.com

any ideas?

sec
server crash here

Hold on, I'm confused here...
by "incoming only", do you mean only connection-initiating packets, or any incoming packets at all?

all incoming packets on port 80.

but when another computer on the network tries to view a web page on the internet, how will the web page send back information?
It would be forwarded to me
Does that just mean I should pick another port to use?

no
local computers should use the INTERNAL IP
i.e., not go thru your NAT.

no, I'm not talking about local computers accessing my server, I'm talking about local computers accessing the internet

they will not be affected.
they send outgoing packets, not incoming.

But when the server of the web page they're viewing sends back a response, or the html of the web page, you're saying it's not considered incoming?

yes, but it's send on a random high port. Not 80.

oh...
Well what exactly is port 80 used for?

typically, hosting HTTP servers.

ok, here's a riddle... filesmatch doesn't work in either my config or htaccess, but directorymatch does work in my config... any ideas?

Sorry, you're confusing me; you said a server on the internet (I was talking about HTTP servers) uses a random high port to communicate with a computer on my LAN. But now you said port 80 is used for hosting HTTP servers...

80 is the typical listening port on an http server.. why is this so hard to grasp?

let me think about it for a second
perhaps something else is overriding that directive

the client does not speak from port 80. port 80 is reserved for http servers to listen and respond on.

would it be defined in the global configs maybe?

so clients have to take whatever ports are available.

grep your config.

get to know your system with netstat -pant

no, don't pull your pants down.

it doesn't appear to be.. no match

So when I type in a URL in my internet browser, it tries to contact that web server; does it randomly select a port to do that from?

when listening on 80, the target port is 80. When serving data, the source port is 80. The client port can be ANYTHING

http://www.w3schools.com/tcpip/default.asp

yes, but it always speaks TO port 80 (with some exceptions)

holy active apache channel batman!

at least we're under 300 users right now...

how is that surprising?

because i was in another well known server but the apache channel is empty in there

ours is better anyway.

is it ok if i paste just 2 lines of code here?

sure
no more than 2.

quakenet actually

code? we don't do no stinking code in #apache.

oh, i'll leave then

quakenet is hardly a technical-oriented network

hmm i'll stop using quakenet then as thats all i use it for
only active channel is php!

what kind of code, exactly?

redirect module
RewriteRule ^lyrics/([^/]+)/([^/]+)$ /lyrics/$1/$2/ [R=301]
RewriteRule ^lyrics/([^/]+)/([^/]+)/?$ /lyrics.php?artist=$1&title=$2

holy rule batman!

i'm using the redirect module to redirect a url and it keeps encoding questions marks like this /? but only if they are at the end of the folder name. so na?me is ok but name? becomes name/?

oh shit, hailviral was THAT guy?

hey

if in my config, i have allowoverride none... then in my virtualdirectory, i have allowoverride all.. would that work?

i think i got it working
can u test it for me
my router comes up when i try

escapeth the ? like so \?

why aren't you using aolserver?

if in my config, i have allowoverride none... then in my virtualdirectory, i have allowoverride all.. would that work?

what directory, exactly?
does it correspond to the real directory?

RewriteRule ^lyrics/([^/]+)/([^/]+)/\?$ /lyrics.php?artist=$1&title=$2

aolserver?

aolserver is nice stuff

a few things.. there's no redirect module, maybe you mean mod_rewrite? and for this kind of job you'd be better off using PATH_INFO and Options MultiViews instead

oh shit, hailviral was THAT guy?

who were you referring to?

ok thanks arreyder. noodl: will take that into consideration

ignore me, listen to the pasta

lol
i love noodles

The Pasta Knows.

i'm not sure i understand your question

he's a freenode troll. we've seen him before. the aolserver guy.
he mostly bugs #perl

god i hate pasta
rice and noodles are good but pasta tastes bad

not enough basil

just needs a good meat sauce, with loads of fresh garlic.

garlic++
is this true about hailviral? can i get my banstick out?

please.

to think I took time to help him
stupid me

saintly

http://apache.pastebin.ca/565526 it still redirects. I can't figure out why. Anyone able to help?

just take care of *!*@pool-*-*-*-*.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net

do you have any thoughts on the matter?

arreyder

arreyder is truly bewildred by this whole exchange

the change u told me to make causes a 404 error :P

sweet

i have no idea what aolserver is

I told you to listen to noodl

yeh i was going to

no one listens to noold...

was hoping the easy way would work first though

what did the request end up lookiing like?

bad for one's health... something like that...

i wanna know why my router setup screen keeps coming up instead of my website

it didn't even redirect and the question mark still had the forward slash. as u can see Are+You+That+Somebody/?/

because your router is listening on port 80

that looks ok, besides the redundant parenthesis. which part of the url contains this errant w?

I think I misinterpreted your goals, you want me to hack at it some more, or you ready to listen to noodl?

what should i do
i still want to see my router setup but i want my website too

i'm ready to listen to noodl

fix your router so it doesn't anymore

if hes willing to give me the code xD
i hate learning new stuff

something like wiki.mysite.com/w-should-be-here/

sorry, got distracted by all this talk of meaty pastas.. what's your thing again?

oh my, new stuff is as good as it gets.

RewriteRule ^lyrics/([^/]+)/([^/]+)$ /lyrics/$1/$2/ [R=301]
RewriteRule ^lyrics/([^/]+)/([^/]+)/?$ /lyrics.php?artist=$1&title=$2

wiki.mysite.com/wiki/Title which aliases to w/index.php

should work then. try a simpler rule like RewriteRule . http://www.apache.org/ and then add conditions to taste

i'm just lazy. i was originally going to do a career in IT (hence studying it at uni) but i realised theres sooo many languages to learn that it's too much
and every few years another set of languages comes out which u have to learn
so i wanna be an english teacher now

can i have it just listen from a certain static ip and not my isp ip

because it's one language and i already know it

english teaching's good 'cos you can travel the world with it

yeh well i also plan to live in bangkok and i couldn't do an IT job there anyway because i don't know thai. besides programming jobs in bangkok pay awful

Listen on a port. Don't put the IP in there.

I'm not sure why, but it's the negating which seems to cause the problem

i was originally going to teach english in china but then my new gf is in bangkok now

so yeh your right about travelling the world

i live in .th and speak a little thai

really? cool
got any tips for me?

khun sabaidee mai?

sabaidee

pom poot bhasa thai dai, der mai koi geng

i only just started learning thai a few days ago so i only know basics

heh, it's a fairly easy language to learn

really? 6 tones..

do you program in ruby? if so i could probably get you work in .th..

seems harder than mandarin which i was originally learning
haven't even heard of ruby, i'm still at university so very much new to programming

so any rule with port 80 i just take the ip out

yeah the tonal stuff's a pain but you get used to it. thais can understand spoken thai without getting that part right mostly.

i want to teach english at a university in bangkok. as i understand it u need a degree + tefl + 2 years experience

yep

only problem is my degree wiil be in software engineering so not relevant

shouldn't matter
many of those learning english will be doing so to learn techy stuff anyway so you'll be in a good spot

do whatever you want, we can't follow your lack of logic anyway

i want to do a PGCE, it's a teaching course in the uk. u need a degree to qualify to do it, problem is because i want to do it in english they might not let me because i have no english qualfications except for gcse
really? i thought they only learned it for touristy stuff
if thats the case then i'll try and showoff my IT knowledge (i should have some by then) when i apply in a few years time

hmmm maybe i should mess with that

in school maybe but in higher ed there's a bunch of people trying to learn programming but restricted by their english

ah ok cool

my neighbour's daughter is learning java at uni but finds it hard 'cos her english sucks

i sent an email to a uni employer telling them my situation and asking their opinion, but i got no response. damn snobs

the education system in thailand sucks very badly
learning by rote

does she live in bangkok?

yeah

as i understand it most of the schools in thailand are corrupt and they don't care about standards or performance
it's only when u get to university level are all the schools proper
and theres some proper ones at primary/secondary but they are rare
cool
i'd be happy to teach her when i come over next summer

dunno about that. thing is there's a status attached to being in higher ed that people don't really talk about but it's there all the same. kind of like a caste system. if you've got a degree you're in a different class.

really? i kept reading that most schools didn't care about degrees
but then i guess it's the few that do care who i need to look at

eh?

my daughter's in school in .th but it's only pre-school so i'm not too concerned about the teaching quality

i thought that's what uni's gave out...
over here, to teach jc you have to have at least a masters. to teach at a uni, you need a phd

so uh, what doesn't work about your rewrite rules?

"Dont eat the rice from the rice table"
only thing I learned in pre school
we had a rice table thing that was kinda like a sandbox

it keeps encoding questions marks like this /? but only if they are at the end of the folder name. so na?me is ok but name? becomes name/?

"don't eat the pencils" was about it for me :p

i have a dent in my forehead from where i pushed a pencil rubber into my head really hard all lesson
it's only small

hmm, at least rice is edible :P

and drinkable!
with some work that is...

but your rules does that.. appending a slash when there isn't one? perhaps you're missing hthe fact that the rewrite rules doesn't "see" the quesry string

about the size of a pencil rubber funnily enough

hehehe

so how can i fix it?

plastic surgery?

no i meant the rule

gimme an example url, in full, and say how it doesn't work

anyone familiar with debian/ubuntu's apache configuration?

distro

what distro are we dealing with here?

bah

humbug

layout

ubuntu

layout is see config.layout or default layout
ubuntu is an ancient African word meaning 'I can't configure Debian'

distro layout

See http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/Info/DistrosDefaultLayout for clues on how your distro mangles or organises its Apache package(s)

very true

sheesh, dang multiple keyword commands.

ok well heres the url i put into the browser http://www.moozic.net/lyrics/Aaliyah/+Are+You+That+Somebody%3F and heres the result http://www.moozic.net/lyrics/Aaliyah/+Are+You+That+Somebody/?/
%3F is just a question mark btw
i just tried encoding it differently to see if it would fix it, then i realised it was the rewrite module messing it up not the link

hmm, try [NE]

if the global config says AllowOverride None... and my virtualhost says allowoverride all... would that explain why my site seems to be choking on htaccess files?

depends on the scope
but things in the vhost will override global configs if any configs conflict
so if htaccess is barfing, it could be a vhost misconfig or your allowoverride in the wrong scope, etc...
for instance...
directory /

is a filesystem directory, not a URL path. If you put options in this block, don't be surprised when whatever you're trying to do doesn't work.

i can't seem to get filesmatch to work

adding [NE] just gives me a 404
unless i'm putting it in the wrong place :x
i just put it after the 301

let's see

gah!
be wary of noodl saying let's see!

RewriteRule ^lyrics/([^/]+)/([^/]+)$ /lyrics/$1/$2/ [R=301][NE]
like that

noodl likes to see wibbly nibblies!

IT"S WIBBLY TIEM!
[R=301,NE]

ahh ok
still gives me a 404

step one

whatever the problem, step one is to look in the error log (and any other logs that may apply, such as suexec, mod_rewrite, or mod_security).

rewritelog

see the error log for where apache thinks the url is going

rewriteloglevel

rewriteloglevel is http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/mod/mod_rewrite.html#rewriteloglevel. RewriteLogLevel 9 is log everything...

and then enable RewriteLog once that doesn't help :p

so i just type rewritelog into my .htaccess file?

gah!
rewritelog context

server config, virtual host

so i have to add it to my server config?

server config, virtual host

rewrite in htaccess is bad evil & wrong
avoid it if you can

ok well i'm not quite sure where to put my conf file for apache because i tried putting it in etc/http/conf and it didn't work
httpd/conf even

how was your server installed?

i don't know because it's my webhosts server not mine

via a package presumably.. do you know which distro they're using?

i know apache is seeing my htaccess file, b/c i can cause it to error, but FilesMatch has no effect

filesmatch override

filesmatch override is allowed in .htaccess files if AllowOverride is set to FileInfo

ok that must be set if rewrite is working...
*shrugs*

1.3.37 (Unix)
Kernel version 2.6.19.2-grsec
1.3.37 is the apache version

is there an /etc/issue file?

cat /etc/issue

nope

allowoverride is set to all

so i need to change it in the htaccess?

if possible you should avoid using htaccess for mod_rewrite
it's slow, confusing and loop-prone

hmm well i can't seem get the conf file working. unless cpanel will let me redirect with regex expressions
cpanel just uses apache anyway

is there anyway to determine why my htaccess isn't working correctly? logging?

s/uses/abuses/

cpanel is teh evil

noodl
i meant to ask u. is your neighbours daughter looking for a private tutor?
i know a lot of students use them
because i'm going to be in thailand next year either over the summer or for a year so would appreciate it if u could hook me up
i'll be looking for a job at a school then trying to do private tutoring outside that

ask me when you're over. we could meet up

references? DNA sample?

ah sure thing

i don't think she's after private tuition though, can't afford it

oh ok

watch out for your wibbly bits if you meet up with noodl

whats bangkok like for living then, is the corruption really as bad as it sounds? i was only there a week so didn't see much, though i did walk down a dodgy street and have people trying to get me into there dodgy bars

more like if you meet up with my wife

lol
is she thai?

bangkok smells bad and yes, you can get mugged easily
i got mugged once by a pair of ladybodys

bangkok doesn't smell bad if your on the right side of the river
from what i remember theres one side with all the dodgy stuff and the other side is really westernised

luckily i noticed that they'd picked my wallet and gave chase and got it back

how did u get it back, did they fight u for it?

no, i cornered it and offered to part with some cash in exchange for the wallet (i cared more about the cards in it)

heh ok
is your wife thai or western?

and yeah, not all of bangkok smells, but it's such a beautiful country outside the capital that i wouldn't want to live there
too crowded and noisy for me
she's thai

because my gf is thai and theres a big culture difference that makes it hard for me sometimes
ok cool

http://www.flickr.com/photos/28727541@N00/

got any tips for me?

heh... ironic that an englishman would be complaining about too noisy...

any tips on keeping thai ladies happy? be respectful, be calm, be loving and don't walk over the food :p
or anything really. just be careful not to step over any plates of food or people or dogs or any of the other things it's hard to avoid walking over

do you always take pictures of your meals?

feet considered dirtiest part of body

and if you ever decide to drive in thailand, take lots and lots of deep breaths first
yeah, quite often

ok i'll remember that. i was catching onto the calm thing because she always got upset even if i was just having a loud discussion with a friend

my wife laughed at me our first thanksgiving, and not just because I used a drill to make holes in the turkey

heh

hehe

i'd laugh at you too :P

I insisted on photographing the food

chainsaws work much better...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/28727541@N00/333775361/
hahaha

Hmm, next year. I have one.

and if you ever decide to drive in thailand- already done that

my gf let me drive her car a bit
amazing really considering i don't have a license and have only had 2 lessons
was a nice car too!
automatic though, which sucks

it's a scary prospect.. my wife drives our car around. she "passed" her license test by bribing everyone at each stage

lol

luckily the insurance company seem happy enough to cough up when she crashes

yeh i noticed theres a lot of bad drivers
btw when i was driving in bangkok it was night time too
included pulling off onto a dual carriageway

hehe, bangkok's a nightmare to drive in. take a wrong turn and you're stuck in a queue for an hour trying to get back on course

yeh the road network looks a bit crazy

what? it's gone, beards don't work on me

you looked funny.
s/looked/look/
heh

those bike boats are nifty, I want one

i want my own tuktuk
;D

hehe, noisy buggers they are

are they called "bike boats" I seriously want one
google fails!

http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/sep05/1685

dunno, that's the only time i've seen then
them

i'm getting "no rule to make target 'install-webconf. stop' when i run make install-webconf. what does this mean? tried the nagios channel already

ubuntu-rocks1: look at the Makefile you probebly speeled someting wrung

or didn't run configure..

ubuntu-rocks1: it'll have the available make options
hmm, true. hadnt considered that

right so what am i gonna do about this rewrite rule

i'm trying the ubuntu quickstart for nagios. i'm at the part where it says" install the nagios web config file in the apache conf.d directory" then next command is "make install-webconf". are those 2 things or 1?

no idea

did you try RewriteLog? are you able to edit the main config files yet?

no i'm not hence i can't try it. unless i can tell apache to make the log from the htaccess file..

is there a way to determine what configure options were used when i built apache? i've lost the documentation on it.

hmm well i don't think i can do that
just read that u can't

well if you've kept your extracted dir after you compiled, config.nice
config.nice

config.nice is ~a file with all the arguments that you passed to ./configure when building Apache. or installed to ${prefix}/build/config.nice

ah, looks like i don't have it
guess it's back to the manual for me!

you can use stuff like
httpd -v

httpd -v returns Apache's version number. httpd -V returns compile settings.

er big -V
or httpd -M

httpd -M lists both statically and dynamically loaded modules for apache version 2.2 and higher

httpd -l

Use httpd -l (small L) will show you what modules were compiled into apache, but only compiled-in; others can be loaded with LoadModule or httpd -L (capital L) will show you a list of available configuration directives provided by the currently compiled in module set (shown by httpd -l (small L)) Where httpd is the name of the Apache HTTPd binary.

but it'll take some cross referencing skills

for versions 2.0+ make install puts config.nice in the build/ directory of the server install

does it?

Or doesn't it?

ooh... that's good to know...
why yes it does
noodl++

thanks everyone!

why can't you edit the server config?

no gui!
:P

scratch'n'sniff wibblies

hmm well unless i can do it from shell somehow i can't see how i'm going to do it

o.O
vi

vi is a text editor. or a full-featured Apache configuration tool.

because i dont know if it looks for a config file in my webspace

oh, is this shared hosting?

yes1

let's go back to the yeah but not with rewrite option
your rewrite rules sends the request to the script with the same basename
so, rather than fiddling with mod_rewrite's broken url encoding issues, try this

be lolcat

im in ur phonez textin ur honeyz

Options MultiViews
AcceptPathInfo On
(the latter probably isn't necessary as it's on by default)
that way, /tune/whatver will get resolved to /tune.php with /whatever going in to the PATH_INFO variable

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