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oliau i want to format no data on it as linux web hosting format

CoolGuy21, KonicaMinolta takes linux comptability seriously

ok, so run "fdisk /dev/hdc"
then press m for help :P

CoolGuy21, http://www.cups.org/newsgroups.php?s1+gcups.general+v5+T+Qkonica

oliau hdc or hdc1
?

hdc
you want to format the drive and recreate a new partition on it.

ok 1 sec

SSS`: Are you adding this to a system that uses LVM?

you need to delete the partition on there with fdisk, then create a new one
then when you're finished write table to disk and exit

ivazquez no

good question ivazquez .. i didnt think of that :p

but the previous hard disk i dont want to delete the data

wait ...

if i do fdisk /dev/hdc the another hard disk will be affected
?

if you do fdisk /dev/hdc only that hard drive (third on ATA) will be affected

oliau what do u mean by third on ATA
?

hdc = the c means its the third drive, as in a, b, c

Secondary master.

secondary master.. yes

ah ok
ok i do fdisk /dev/hdc
whats next ?

press m for help
it will tell you what keys do what
you need to delete the partition on there, then create a new one that takes up the whole drive, then write the table to the disk and exit.

i did delete a partition it gaves me selected partiton 1
its right ?

yes, thats hte only one you can delete anyway since you dont have any others

ok after ?
create what ?

create a new partition

Create a new primary partition.

there is create new partition empty dos table
that is it ?
or just add a new partition

you need to add it and it asks for a partition type if i recall right...

what should i put partion number
1 to 4

1

first cylinder
1 also ?

yes

ok done
whats next ?

SSS`: before asking think about it for a second.. you are creating the FIRST partition from the beginning of the disk

should i do extened ?

press p and it should show you partition table
you need to ensure the "system" is linux, if i recall right...

ok right i got /dev/hdc1 sys linux
whats next ?

write the table to disk and exit

Re-reading the partition table failed with error 16: Device or resource busy.
The kernel still uses the old table.

did you have the ntfs partition mounted?

i think yes cuz it was formated on windows
The new table will be used at the next reboot.

you need to unmount it before you go changing the partition table

if i reboot the problem will be ok ?

in future... for now you can just reboot i think
yes

ok after rebooting where i can locate my new hard disk ?

It will still be on the same device. You're not done yet.

you need to create a filesystem on it before you can locate it :P

what should i do also ?

reboot first ...

ah how to create the filesystem

man mkfs

ok im rebooting

If you're not sure which FS you want, use ext3.

after reboot what should i do with mkfs ?

man mkfs

Take a look at the man page.

you really should understand what you are doing and not just enter commands we give you
in particular when you are playing with your filesystem

oliau i just another hard disk on my system all what i want is to be on and usable

Hey, just thought of something... where can I read exactly how filesystems like ext3 and ext2 work. Would be nice to understand how they work and how they do stuff

i didnt do it before thats why

SSS`: yes fair enough, im just telling you when you are doing stuff with disks its best to take a few minutes longer to know what you are doing
wikipedia might have some useful info

oliau ok its rebooted
what should i do now with mkfs and ext3
?

what is the name of the package manager in fedora?

mkfs -t ext3 /dev/hdc1

pirut, yum, rpm.

MrMarkie, hey - just thought of something - open source

kempo, yum

its writing the tables

thx
and how can i see if i am on a 32 bit or 64 bi system?

I'm there now, good briefing. I'll muck around the links and see how much I can find out

I found the direct method

lsb_release -a

ia32 is 32 bit, right?

Yes.

yeah. thx

oliau ok its done
now i can use the hard disk ?

yes, after you mount it
where do you want it mounted?
i suggest /mnt/newharddisk

ok i do mount /mnt/hdc1 ?

yes that will work, if you have that directory empty sitting there...
mount -t ext3 /dev/hdc1 /mnt/hdc1
i think...

it will be mounted always after reboot or no ?

no
you need to edit /etc/fstab

how i can activated at boottime

and add that in there

SettingsAdvancedURL Handlers!Firefox '%s'

look at the fstab file and see the format for the other drives

where should i install an application into? /usr/bin? /usr/local/bin? /opt?

and copy one of those to see what it is doing

If it's not from a package then /usr/local would be best.
Don't forget to edit the shell scripts to add /usr/local/bin to the path.

i have
/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00 / ext3 defaults 1 1
LABEL=/boot /boot ext3 defaults 1 2
as ext3
what should i put it ?

man 5 fstab
Just a hint, the last 2 values should be "1 2".

read the man page, im not going to tell you what to put there if you cant figure it out yourself

oliau lol its test :P

does anyone know how to allow all users to play sound? root can play sound but any users trying get an error "can't find a suitable libao driver" ?

Hey, just thought of something... not everyone is born a 1337 h4xX0r5 and need to be pointed in the right direction

The first user to log in gets ownership of the sound devices.

log in anywhere? or only via local console or ssh or something else?

Can Fedora 7 extract rar files ?

Locally.

i thought new soundcards were capable of playing multiple sounds at once so didn't think this would be a problem

Anybody know ?

chewed-on: install unrar from livna and make a link to /usr/bin/rar.

unrar eh ?

so can anyone else get access to the soundcard or do i need to reboot and then login as a different user?

That's the name of the package ?

Or is that install rar and make a link to unrar...
Yes.

oliau should i put this /dev/hdc1 /mnt/hdc1 ext3 defaults 1 1
?

Thanks.

just installing unrar from livna was enough for me

SSS`: yes that should work, i think... ivazquez suggested "1 2" at the end though

If no one else is logged in then the first person to log in gets it.

Yeah, OK. I'll yum install unrar.

ok well nobody is logged in locally but root logged in first via ssh and appears to have gotten the soundcard

SSS`: / gets a 1 in the second value. Everything else trickles down from there.

aha oki
so its better to put it /dev/hdc1 /mnt/hdc1 ext3 defaults 1 2

The default owner is root.

is it command line or does unrar have a GUI ?

chewed-on: CLI only. Use file-roller.

Only command line ?

It is possible to allow multiple users to use it, but at the cost of security.

I guess that's not a problem as long as it is able to extract rar files.

chewed-on, fileroller and ark (kde) can use unrar if it's present

what if i wanted to allow a single user only to use it, but not root - is that easy/possible?

fileroller ?

chewed-on, don't extract more than rar a time with ark though, or you'll get truncated files
s/more than/more than one/

root will always have access to it.
Give me a moment to check something...

I have archive manager in gnome. . .is that fileroller ?

yes for sure, but i just want one user to be able to play sound any time

chewed-on, what does fileabout say
helpabout

in archive manager ?

ugh. /me gets coffee. can't type.

File Roller 2.1.83
2.18.3
:-D
Cheers.

I have errors when I try to compile hosting Apache

f7 on one of my pc's..currently it's giving all sorts of trouble (yum can't run, permanently says repo metadata's do not match checksum, crashes in one user profile. those are my two main problems now). any ideas?

i got the user able to play the sound file but they had to log on locally before hand, if nobody is logged in locally or via ssh and i login via a user they can not play sound even if they are the only one logged in

oliau thank u everything is ok

Okay, I've found it.

http://www.rafb.net/paste

ivazquez thank u too

glad he got it sorted
ok just pasting...
http://rafb.net/p/KZndkD74.html

who can help me?

J-23: you are in #fedora, why do you need to recompile apache when there are perfectly good RPMS for it?

J-23: http://www.rafb.net/paste
Good, it's nice and empty. groupadd -g 311 audio

yep, done

I don' t want to install Apache and other servers/tools/interpreters from RPMs - i wan' t to have it in my /home

it's a fresh install for a new server host i've just built... so that is good that it is empty

Now you need to install this file. http://rafb.net/p/C61MHM41.html

J-23: i see... well i was just wondering why... i cant really help you because i've always used rpms.

The location is in the description.
Hrm. Or not.

http://rafb.net/p/4aUDzk86.html - I haven' t full logs of my console.
a href="http://rafb.net/p/4aUDzk86.html"http://rafb.net/p/4aUDzk86.html/a - I haven' t full logs of my console.

if i have a group for audio isnt there something in /dev that is for the soundcard which i just need to give the audio group access to?
or am i off track completely?
i cant see anything in dev named sound or alsa tho :/
or even mixer

Yes, but it's not that easy to give permissions. /dev is created from scratch on reboot.

oh, ok.

./log" i think works

Okay, they've changed a few things. I'm going to need to make some changes...
In the meantime use vigr to add the user to the audio group.

i did some googling and a few sites mentioned an "audio" group which should exist - but it doesnt on my system
vigr? i dont have an audio group :|

It doesn't exist by default on Fedora.
You use groupadd to create it.

is there another alternative besides wine for playing windows games?

cedega

well i did create it with that command earlier, so that is ok

games.cedega.com/gamesdb to check of your game will run nicely

Oh excellent. There's a script for converting permissions files...
You still need to add the user to the group though.

already tried it that doesnt work either wine and cedega both refuse to open

You may need the MSI installer from MS.

what are you trying to play?

well i tried to play zuma
but with wine i cant even open notepad by doing wine notepad

hmmm...i don't know that game

It's a ball-track-shooty thing.

but it sounds very weird that your wine doesn't even load notepad

its from popcap i believe

i've added the "oli" user to the audio group now.

when i try opening notepad even gives some fault trying to write to some address

Good stuff. I'm almost done converting the file.

what is this file going to do?

hmmm..are you running from a terminal?

the strange thing is it runs fine on my other pc same exact f7 setup just newer hardware
yea from terminal

I have Polish version of Fedora, but GCC is in English - http://rafb.net/p/TFylEt65.html

It's going to give group ownership of the audio devices to audio.

ok, sounds good

gives the same error on winecfg wine notepad and wine regedit

did it work before on that pc?

naw just on my older pc
been trying to get it to work on this one for almost a week

what wine?

umm tried version .36 and .38

J-23:

http://rafb.net/p/y2Ensg24.html

J-23: where does it bomb out? i can't see a line that gives an error message..
sounds like it might be a wine problem..might need to take it to them

to there chat chan or?

J-23: Please prepend the command with "LANG=en_US.utf8 ".

sat in chat for like 12hrs yesterday to no avail

ok done ivazquez

try mailing to their mailing list or dev's

udevcontrol reload_rules

k thankx

yep, done no output from that command...

So now you should be able to log in as that user and use the audio devices.

hmm, relogged in via ssh and it didnt work, logged in locally and it worked, then tried via ssh and it worked

Log out before you ssh in.
Log out locally, I mean.

yeah i have just done that... so now nobody is logged in locally or via ssh

I will send log to upload.wklej.org

but if i login now via ssh it doesnt work

What does groups say under ssh?

do you mean the ssh group?
sshd:x:74:

No, ssh in and run "groups".

oh, yeah... says "oli audio"
same thing locally

What does "ls -l /dev/audio" say?

J-23, you're trying to build apache in your homedir because you don't own the server?

3
er wait, let me log out locally

"/usr/lib/cups/backend/ipp failed"

ok i logged out locally and it belongs to root:root

Okay, the udev rule change didn't seem to take.
Can you afford to reboot the machine?

yes sure
shall i do that?

ivazquez, why's all that necessary? some special case?

I have my PC, it' s enought.

?

Logging in as ssh doesn't trigger pamconsole to reown the audio devices.

did that earlier

aah.

i see
i want this server sitting under desk but with headphones attached so i can listne to music sometimes, without having to login locally first

So you have to do udev trickery to get it to work.

i guess i could just live with playing audio as root... :p

You should look into mpd.
Fortunately all this work is useful for mpd as well.

so should i be rebooting it now? :/

Can you?

yes.. will do
ok have rebooted, shall i test login only via ssh as oli to see if audio works first? or do something else first?

Just show the perms on /dev/audio.

J-23: i'm gonna check it now. sorry, had some troubleshooting of my own to do

root:root

Well nuts.

if i change the permissions after boot to root:audio would a user logged in via ssh in that group be able to play?
cause i could just put it in a startup script to change that permission

there's no audio group.

i created one earlier though

That would work, but that really is the wrong solution.

what's the point ?

to allow a user logged in via ssh to play audio, with nobody needing to login locally before

the sound device ownership is given to the first user logged in

yes we established that, and that is the problem

sound naughty.

huh? :p

Open up "tail -F /var/log/messages" in a window.

i just tested changing perms and it didnt work anyway

win 24
grr

can someone help me with this please
Print file was not accepted (client-error-document-format-not-supported)

am tailing it ... what not?

http://up.wklej.org/download.php?id=eda80a3d5b344bc40f3bc04f65b7a357

In another window, "udevcontrol log_priority=7".
Then followed by "udevcontrol reload_rules".

the first command does nothing to the messages log but the second does show that it is parse_file reading each file in /etc/udev/rules.d
including the new one we created.

No errors anywhere?

is the cups daemon started ?

no errors

Okay, let me check something...
Try changing the number to 96.

the log priority or something else?

The filename.
96-audio.rules

is there an url for xorg for 1440x900 conf?

is there a recomended way to install java6 on f7 ?

Install the rpm, then grab the -compat rpm from JPackage.
Just add it to the modes.

hum.. fedora has a new way to handle ide drives now?

F7 labels PATA drives as sdX.

ok done ivazquez

ivazquez, you bean the rpm.bin from sun ?

Yes.

that's everything? hm..

Okay, reolad the rules again.

J-23: i can't see any errors in that log..

yes i have done that also

:o

ivazquez, i did, its all distorted

ivazquez, thought one needed to get some spec file from JPackage and build an rpm, etc ...

Any changes.

my laptops drive seems to be awfully slow, so i thought it might be the lack of dma usage.. but hdparm does not show the using_dma attribute

Not anymore.

J-23: i can see that it doesn't look like it's actually compiling much though

mmm, love these changes

J-23: how much crunching does the cpu do?

Log hasn' t errors, console has.

Any luck on the perms then?

J-23: ah...damn...hang on

i'll reboot

how to redirect stderr output from a make to a text file?

frozty_sa, 2

for both.

"exports.c:1870: error: redefinition of 'ap_hack_apr_palloc'" - I have a lot of lines in this type...

ivazquez, sorry, whats "compat" you mean like java-1.5.0-sun-compat-1.5.0.09-1jpp.src.rpm but for java6 ?

Correct.
Not the SRPM though.

./log"

The i586 package.

hmm

./log"

I need to re./configure it before every make.

No you don't. Just make clean.

i just noticed when rebooting as the services were stopping there were lots of udev-event messages scrolling thru the screen but i didnt get a chance to read them exactly.
anyway rebooting now...

That's just an artifact of turning up the log level.

is it possible that hdparm in fc7 has some problems?

Not a clue.

hum

ok i've rebooted, shall i login remotely as oli and see if i can play audio first or login locally to check the permissions?

Remotely to check the permissions.

still root:root :/

http://up.wklej.org/download.php?id=8f121ce07d74717e0b1f21d122e04521

Well now that's just annoying...
Let me check something.
Okay, I can't see anything in BZ. Let me see if I can get a hold of the udev guy.

thanks

J-23: paste that exports.c file as well please
all the errors come from there as an incorrect definition, so i'd like to give it a quick overview

where can I find the KDE log file?

hi channel

hi wahjava

Open up /etc/security/console.perms.d/50-default.perms in an editor.

is there any way into integrate gpg-agent into GNOME. I'm running Fedora 7
hi

keyring?

By integration I mean, loading gpg-agent at startup
how ?

Not a clue.

Hi everyone!

hi tyrok

hang on

http://up.wklej.org/download.php?id=06138bc5af6023646ede0e1f7c1eac75

ok

ok, what am i looking for? theres a whole section relating to audio at the top

sessions

0600 root".

yes, got it...

shall I add gpg-agent --daemon thing there, hmm... ??

pata_via" like it's detecting the IDE settings. Any way to cache these?

0660 root.audio".

is that the recommended way ?

wahjava, pam_keyring probaby. i use pam_ssh to auto add my keys to ssh-agent upon login.

something like that..check the man/info pages for the correct params to run it

reboot again? or just relogin?

Log in locally, then log out.

I know howto start gpg-agent, and even KDE has that on startup, but not GNOME
I know howto start gpg-agent, and even KDE has that on startup, but not GNOME

anyone know if there is an official work around for the issue with the e1000 module in f7?

Look at where the system starts up ssh-agent and add it there.

well the permissions on the /dev/audio seem to be correct (in terms of user:group) but the permission code is crw-------
so it still isnt working

I've heard rumors of it working with a newer kernel.
Now try to reload the rules.

any idea where that kernel might be found. would like to try it out.

I think it might be either in Rawhide or a private build.

J-23: got the file..give me a few moments to check it out

I seen there is one in development, was hoping there was going to be an official update here soon.

Check koji.

still no good, after reloading rules and logging in as oli

Okay, *now* we'll try rebooting :P
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=8

ok, then after reboot login via ssh as oli and see if it works first?

Yes.

deal..
i was a bit annoyed to find /boot isnt able to be on a software raid5 partition
i wanted to run 2x 4 drive raid 5
but now i am doing 1 raid1 with 2 drives

The BIOS has to be able to see /boot.

and a 6 drive raid 5 or 6, undecided so far :/
but how is it that different on raid5 to raid1 ?

okay, thanks

RAID 1 in s/w just looks like 2 identical drives to the BIOS.

damn still no good
oh yeah.. i forgot about that.

J-23: OK. i can see why it throws a fit the whole time...my idea (though i'd put money out that it's probably not the right way to do it) would be to run gcc in non-strict way...then it'd throw warnings but still compile

well this is getting a bit annoying

Try changing the filename back to 35- and reloading.

reloading only?

Correct.

nope, still doesnt work

You changed the line to read "0660" in both places?

shit sorry, i just change dthe root.audio bit... silly me :o
hang on
woohoo
nice one, works now
whats the number at the start of that rules file name do?

anyone having problems with the new firewire stack?
I have some software that complains the raw1394 module isnt loaded

thanks ivazquez

hi there, does anyone know an voice over ip address host solution apart from skype for linux ?

The number determines in what order the rules files are read.
Asterisk.

thanks

what's the diffrence of xchat 2.6.6 and 2.8? and is it worth updating to ?

ok, thought so

skype is to asteric as gaim is to a clustered jabber server with single sign on and federation

sigh.. is there some easy update function to update fc6 to 7?

No.

yes, you put the DVD in the drive and run the update

try ekiga
seriously, that's the easy way

btw.. yum automatically updates the repositories right?

yes

i just need newer versions of python and wxpython than there are available for fc6..

hi

but, there are some things that might go funny

just need?

snerd, thanks for the tip

I just ran "yum update" and now it is frozen in the "Running transaction test" phase. But even kill -9 cannot kill it. What can I do ??

yeah well. i can't help it FC thought an update was needed :P

reboot the pc!

yum -9 should always kill yum

Anyone care to explain to me why libstdc++ didn't get installed on this system?

an application that both runs under linux and windows would only be skype i suppose... right ?

It's pretty darn stupid

snerd, yum -9 ???

I think ekiga can connect to NetMeeting.

kk, thanks

though it read Fed7 has nice new stuff in Xorg (not that my Nvidia card manages to get color on the video out..

probably
sorry, kill -9

pkill -9 yum

snerd, well, it doesn't

killall -9 yum*
My bad.

it's haunted!

call ripley's!! you've got an undead yum!!

I've just ran "ps auxw | grep yum" and there's only one thing, pid 2988 "/usr/bin/python /usr/bin/yum update", and "kill -9 2988" just doesn't work

iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --syn -m limit --limit 30/m -i eth0 --limit-burst 10 -j syn_limit
iptables v1.3.0: Couldn't load target `syn_limit':/lib/iptables/libipt_syn_limit.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

frozty_sa, lol

Great, now convos are spilling over from #centos :P

killall -9 yum

argiopeweb, not better

hahaha

ivazquez, :P
ivazquez, i thought you may help me :P

Well then ping me in that channel. Don't bring it over here.

sorry

anyway.. wanted to compile a nice actionscript editor. I guess i'll have to work with useless tools for now then

why can't you update? no dvd?

not yet.. downloading it though

any1 got NVU for x84_64 or x86 rpm ?

Hello everyone.

hi

ZEUS^^ : i thought NVU wasnt maintained anymoer

anvil,, yes but I need last working version

uname -a

2.6.11-1.1369_FC4smp
:P

-a please.

ok.
9 EDT 2005 i686 i686 i386

Okay, first of all...
That isn't even the latest kernel for FC4.

and your clock is two years ten days slow
er, that's the build time, sorry

hahaha

I seem to have a corrupt directory, when I try to "cd" into it I receive an "Input/Output Error"

whoopsie, eh?

ivazquez, i installed the latest kernel for fc4 but i got pci bug error :P
JohnMahowald, hehe

how would I fix said corrupt directory?

what storage media is this on, and what file system?

JohnMahowald, on a USB drive, vfat

fsck.vfat

JohnMahowald, I will check, please hold

keep in mind it's especially important to unmount USB sticks

is there a way to grep for non-utf8 characters? or otherwisefind non utf8 chars in a text file?

JohnMahowald, power outage this morning at home, couldn't help that too much, need to get a UPS

http://rafb.net/p/RKshFN10.html
?

ouch, it might not have been synced

actually grep -i utf seems to wrok
oh wait no it doesnt

I don't see any library of that name in wither FC4 or in F7. Looks like you're SOL there.
*either

what is SOL ?

Sh** Outta Luck.

ivazquez, i couldnt even set up apache

hello
did anyone manage to make yum-updatesd work with email notifications?

good morning

ehlo

hmm...quiet in here

yup

Quiet is good every so often.

good. i was afraid i came in on a convo and made things awkward

Well, you didn't come in on a convo...

you in the python channel too?

mh, i just installed fedora yesterday and it seems i still have a kernel which still has a bug (240982), they suggest i should upgrade to .3219 .3224 or .3226.. how do i do that?
do i have to enable a specific repo for that?

I'm everywhere. I need my channel limit removed.

yum update

http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=8

lol

yum update gives me 3194

me too. 3194

how about emails from yum-updatesd?

wiseguy... that one doesnt update further than 3194

ivazquez, apache is running now

are any of these safe to use?

how strong are your python skillz?

Not a clue.

TVSET, how have you tried to set this up

How strong do you need them to be?

rtf parsing?

emit via email
nothing else

have you looked in the yum-updatesd conf file

Ugh.

yes... I changed the line evim_via = email

yeah

restarted the daemon, but nothign happens anymore.. the daemon is there, but no notifications

i wanna see all logs on console

I check my mailq and mail logs - no attempts to send anything
edit /etc/syslog.conf and add something like: *.* /dev/tty9
restart syslogd and you'll have all logs scrolling by on the 9th console (alt+f9)

Supposedly this has one: http://code.google.com/p/pytnef/

a better option might be one of those colorising apps.. they make your logs look really cool

ooo, thanks

hmm... fedora bugzilla has 12 bugs for yum-updatesd.. all similar in nature and suggest that the bloody thing doesn't work

oh, this is for rtf out

I'm probably better with shell script running "yum check-updates" in cron

Guys, how do you install flash player plugin thing for Firefox ?
I installed flash player 9 for Linux and it still says I'm missing plug in or something.
I think I need shockwave or something. . .

chewed-on: rpm -q --qf "%{arch}\n" firefox

chewed-on: download the rpm, install it, and restart your browser

You don't need to restart the browser.

ivazquez:
x86_64
i386

Just go to about:plugins.

chewed-on: what does about:plugins say

where is about plugins ?

chewed-on: Uh oh.

uh oh ?

chewed-on: there are instructions for installing flash here: http://fedorasolved.org/browser-solutions/flash/

type in your browser location bar

You're running the 64-bit version of FF, which doesn't work with Flash 9.

Oh. . .
That's great
T_T

chewed-on: you can use yum to install the 32-bit version of firefox

It's already installed. Both need to be removed, and the 32-bit version reinstalled.

rtf2xml.sf.net (in case you want to know)

is there a way to grep for non-utf8 characters? or otherwisefind non utf8 chars in a text file?

anyone have a l7-filter RPM brewed up for FC6?

guys, like umm Wth http://rafb.net/p/NsYjVJ80.html
this never happened

any idea how to update scons ? my yum package manager keeps telling me scons is not signed and it doesn't update it.

Do you *need* scons?

you have run into the FC6 bug where the installer gives you the i586 kernel when you should be running i686

how i fix it
This nevered happened

yes I do, I use scons to compile Blender 3D.

hy!

i saw a guide recently, let me see if I can find it

chewed-on: You can use yumdownloader to pull down the package and install it manually.

could any1 help? im lookin 4 howtos 2 newbies in fedora 4 eg. how to setup livna repo how to enable(?) mp3 playback etc

chewed-on: full guide here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Bugs/FC6Common

Thanks.

http://fedorasolved.org/multimedia

fedora 4 is no longer supported

i know
that 4 is for

I downloaded the rpm from the scons website. . .shouldn't that be the latest version ?

/part

usin fedora7 btw

ah

JohnMahowald, worked, much thanks

thx JohnMahowald

then please spell out words instead of using abbreviations.

chewed-on: How do you know that the package you got follows Fedora standards?

okay

what does Fedora standard got to do with this ?

btw, thanks for the tip. i ended up searching searchmash rather than google to find my solution.

http://fedorasolved.org/post-install-solutions/yum-config/

does yum have a gui like apt/synaptic ?

How do I mount smb shares in f7

several

yumex , pirut

where's my old smbmount
?

mount.cifs

do you want to mount them or just access them?

mount -t cifs

kyum if you want a KDE gui

accessing them is easy with konqueror and other guis..

wanna mount them
checking... thanks

anyways, thanks man. I downloaded the 0.97-2 rpm manually and installed it and Software Updater shutted up instantly.

then mount -t cifs

ivazquez is veritable font of wisdom, theres no stopping this guy

wolsni, I searched google and found some help
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Bugs/FC6Common

i already linked you to that page

no one here had any problems with the new firewire stack in F7? missing raw1394 modules?

no for me

l7-filter on FC6, anyone? it'd be great if someone could share, instead of me taking the time to package this up
kernel patching, make modules and all that jazz

thanx
but it does not work
6 : Yum is locked by another

whats that ? :O

That's just another app using yum.

only one yum-related program can run at a time

either have to kill yum or kill a stale lock file

that includes yumex and pup and yum-updatesd and whatever else

okay
its ok now

what happens if someone wants to install F7 on a system without a DVD?

sehh, netinstall

pxe boot
or just a netboot

over network... hmm

doesnt the live cd allow installs?

it does

or maybe install a DVD drive temporarily...

faster
but then again I have fibre to the house

indeed

netinstall flies
assuming the image server is on your LAN

does the delta-rpm thing work?

A netinstall will allow you to select from all the packages in F7. The DVD has only a subset.

takes like 5-6 minutes from start to finish to kickstart a FC6 install

I have the plugin installed but I have no idea if it doesn anything

is there any way to install the latest fedora without the GUI on a system with only 64 megs of ram?

lotus-blade: easy

aah 64MB of RAM

Uh, anaconda in 64 MB easy?

/sbin/init 3 ?

I wouldn't run anaconda with less than 128.

last time I tried to install it told me that i did not have enough ram to install

even in text mode?

lotus-blade: use the text mode

.6.0_01-fcs is needed by

the installer refuses to run with that little memory

anaconda in F7 is a much bigger pig than before.

even in text mode?

we don't need no stinkin' GUI!

Did you download the 1.6.0u1 JDK rpm?

most of the RAM goes to package dependency resolution, I believe

I see

ivazquez, yes

Not according to that error.

hm, anyone can think of a reason for "Setting hostname bla" taking ages? like almost 5 minutes?

What's the filename of the JDK you installed?

thats really strange. i can't fathom why calculating dependencies would need 64 megs

well im just trying to build with tpmbuild -bb .spec

You don't need to build anything.
Seriously.
I just installed it last night so I know what I'm talking about.

just install jdk-6u1-linux-i586.rpm ?

Yes.

travelling salesman problem

and...

anaconda in F7 uses yum instead of a custom depsolver.

I wonder how much RAM the live CD would need to install, I don't think it's calculating deps, it's got the system ramdisk though.

im testing fc6 right now
with 64 megs ram

is the problem that F7 just runs out of memory at 64mb? or is it a wall that anaconda has to avoid the problem of running out of memory at 64mb?

anaconda is the main obstacle in running a low RAM system.
well, and yum itself.

yup anaconda wont let you install with 64
but it will with 96

hello all

so... either put more ram on the machine for install, then remove it. or image the HD elsewhere. or install a more lightwieght distro

i've upgraded from fc6 to f7 and glx* is crashing x, any quick fix for this?
nvidia fx5200

proprietary nvidia dirvers?

greenfish, kmod-nvidia from livna

not sure then. i havent made the leap to 7 yet

I like the firefox extension "Download Them All"! Super fast here, with just "one click".

greenfish, i have installed first on a test partition (_new_ install) and worked fine
greenfish, problems came from upgrade part

is there an easy way to kill all processes own by a specific user?

i'm ofc tempted to get rid of the issue, by reinstalling but also ifthere's a fix, maybe someday upgrade will be painless
jnanney, kill pid
jnanney, oops all?

yes, all

jnanney, sorry, i have no idea

you can probably use cut, grep, and ps to get the pids for all processes from a specific user

for i in `ps -U ssanders | sed 's/^ \+//g;s/^\([0-9]\+\) .*$/\1/g'`;do kill $i;done

that was what I was thinking

ssanders is my user

thanks greenfish!

shazaam

is there any way to get more helpful details when a service fails to run?
i try to run a ftpd and it just says failed

check /var/log/messages

ok will do
thx

also, check the config file for ftpd... there is probably a way to enable debug or verbose logging
which will increase the verbosity of anything related to ftpd in /var/log/messages

yea nothing in /var/log/messages just now so i'll check that

ivazquez, doesnt look like that install played nicely with alternatives

You need to install -compat as well.

could there be any reason for system-config-display switching to a higher resolution even if both card and monitor should support that?

cool, thanks

I have done a yum --installpath /foo ; what more do I have to do to make /foo a working installation for diskless clients?

guzu, maybe you shoud take kmod-nvidia-96xx
form livna
Anyone else having issue with nvidia driver ?

at first, back in FC5, I did rsync -e ssh -auv from a CD-installed FC5. after that i figured I'd just groupinstall new installations, but i cant get them to boot like the CD-installed FC5
I ment I have done yum --installpath /foo install various packages etc
I have MAGEDEV'ed the dev's in the new install dir
i figure i won't have to set up grub since it's going to be a diskless boot
*MAKEDEV

Regenerate the initrd?

zcat, you there bud?

im not sure if i need that, i thinkg system-config-netboot handles this

check out CD #1 images/boot.iso. Tear that apart and build your diskless boot kernel/initrd off that

I have a /tftpboot/linux-install/FC7/initrd.img
ok I will, thanks

np

still system-config-netboot did create a working initrd and vmlinuz from my CD-installed FC5 back then

oh cool. So, it's a tftpboot issue?

I would assume it would handle the F7 kernel and initrd the same way
hm perhaps
i realise i havent restarted tftpd..
im trying that

you can tweak verbose settings in tftp by editing the daemon flags in /etc/xinet.d/tftp
s/in/for

but still, it worked flawlessly for FC5, only difference is that it is a blue-print copy byte by byte from a CD-based installation
this time its a yum --installpath based installation

are you trying to automate using kickstar?
kickstart, rather?

kwizart, no, acording to nvidia.com , i need the latest driver

no
just boot a computer that has no harddrives

oh. you are doing a yum install on every boot?

no, just once for every fedora release
i found it quite convenient

cool. have you checked out LTSP?

briefly
this computer is used just for statistical computations, users ssh into it and start their jobs and then leave

which is the last driver for you ?

i have been considering iSCSI instead, but know too little

where does fedora store the list for "chkconfig --list" for those entries that are "on"

and you don't "need" the last driver you "can' take wether nvidia nvidia-96xx or nvidia-legacy with fx5200

I have a script which runs at boot, but chkconfig --list doesn't list it

hey, i am curious, is there a working net-install disc for fedora 7?

if I remember correctly only putting it in /etc/rcX.d doesn't do the trick

*yet

chkconfig --add it?

lan1g1r0, rescue cd

I downloaded it 3 days ago, and it doesn't work.

torbjorn, i don't want to add it. I am curious as to why chkconfig --list doesn't list it, but it is running

worked for me

guzu, but the current support card are sometimes not uptodate... - anyway do you have aiglx and composite enabled ?

kwizart, i see, thanks

What method did you use? Harddrive?
I tried HTTP/FTP... it asks for sources... and i can't find any at all

/etc/rc.local ?

where can i find the sources?

You need to give it the dir repodata hangs off of.

i am not savy to all this lingo, repodata is what exactly?

It's a directory.

that contains the install files?

http://rafb.net/p/g6EQd291.html - Thanks for getting me what I needed for that

how do i give it that directory? i don't see a prompt for it? i used the graphical installer

Take a look at (but don't USE) http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/releases/7/Everything/i386/os/ .

np

Oh, wait, you can't use that for install...

had to turn it into a shell script cause I'd never remember the regex you used

http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/releases/7/Fedora/i386/os/

IS bandwidth regulated monthly or at one simultanious moment?

kwizart, i have libxcompsite and compiz, isthis enough for aiglx?

so which destination and which directory tree do i need?

DAMN. 2.5 minutes to netinstall FC6 on a vmware client

Nvidia driver do not uses aiglx

You need releases/7/Fedora/i386/os/ on your local mirror.

compositve need to be disabled

Take a look in a browser first to find it.

hmm, i can't find local mirros
*mirrors

if i have 20 Megs of bandwidth, is that 20 megs that can be transferred this month, or just at 1 moment?

lol, at 1 moment

kwizart, i see, so i better remove it

http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/publiclist

ok....i have a friend whose IT director at work said that they need 3 Terrabytes of bandwidth because their 60 computer network can't handle it.

go away

*can't handle their current bandwidth

Or at least don't go off-topic.

sorry

kwizart, do you have an f7+nvidia working xorg.conf?

i have a fc6 one

kwizart, ok

http://pastebin.ca/561574

kwizart, thnx

guzu, http://rafb.net/p/V9sk8I99.html

thnx Southern_Gentlem

kwizart, please use a pastebin that doesnt include ads

Southern_Gentlem, does it work with the new 100.14.09 ?

nope i am still using the old one
rpm -q kmod-nvidia
kmod-nvidia-1.0.9762-1.2.6.21_1.3194.fc7

ok
someone noticed that there is an xorg server update, you may need to update it also...

ok, my xorg.conf was generated by livna-config-display but it doeas _not_ look like these ...

guzu, can you pastebin it ?

kwizart, sure

Hello :-)
I got to use Yum(ex) to get some packages from the internet repository. The whole process is so slow... Is there a way to speed it up? I have mirrored some packages over the LAN and used yum priority plugin but when I disable the internet repositories, there is a problem of dependencies and yum gives an error.

You need to pull down more than just the DVD.
You have to mirror the contents of Everything.
Which is 8.9GB for i386.

and close to 10gb for x64

Is fedora8 purpose to be speed/performance changes?

I loadded the packages from the DVD.

The DVD contains only a small subset of F7.

mmhhh, there is no cd for Fedora 7? only a dvd?

there are liveCDs

Good moring Southern_Gentlem

Im looking at the initrd of a working diskless installation and that from a newly installed non-working, they seem fairly identical

what if I have a workstation that does not have a dvd reader?
so the one to use is the live cd?

Rescue disc.

SG i want to know somthing

you can install from the livecds, or use the rescue disc to do a net install

I have a 80GB hardrive and I wonder how I put my music on it
nothing is on the 80GB hd

from what I can judge, the non-working initrd tries to access some device way beyond it's size, and then i get a kernel panic, not syncing

no filesystem in any way

install something like kaudiocreator and rip your cd's; save the files on the hard drive

nope

fdisk -l

so I don't have to format it
Disk /dev/sdb: 80.0 GB, 80026361856 bytes

if you dont have a filesystem you have to format it

you can use gparted for a gui partitioner

i use fdisk
what format ?

wolsni, nice to know your nick is SG

ext3

yep

How do I retrive just the packages I want along all it's dependencies.

Why not just use yum?

parttion with fdisk

I have to install the packages on lot of machines on my lan

So then scrape them from the cache after.

http://rafb.net/p/9gnSNQ68.html

And FTLoG, set up a local mirror and use mirrormanager.

Sg now write it?

mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdb1

is it possible to boot the workstation with the rescue cd and then do a linux askmethod and install with the dvd image mounted and exported via nfs?

yep

You don't need to mount, just export the image via NFS.

can I just export, right
that's what I was going to mention

Can I set it for just the required packages?

so, there is no need on doing a mount -o file.iso

Have you considered a caching proxy?

http://rafb.net/p/HUuNWi18.html
everything seems to pass
now where did it go (or which dir is it in?)

I was not aware of it... Do I have to use squid or something?

Yes.

man ftlog does not return anything.... :-(

"For the love of God"

i think you have to mount it to some mount point

yes god loves you.

cd /media

"for the love of god" on google gave me results mostly from glossaries... :-(

mkdir music
fstab
/dev/sdb1 /media/music blah blah

thanks I know how to add the rights

my boot process tries to access the ramdisk beyond its apprant size of 48k
how do i tell it to keep within this boundry?
lastlog -regex torbjorn
ops

Another query about fedora packages, the fedora x86_64 repo has a lot of i386 packages along with x86_64 packages. Why are these needed?

To run i386 apps.

I've read just now on the Yum FAQ that a yum upgrade from FC6-F7 may cause the system to not boot upon restart due to the changing of /dev/hd* to /dev/sd*. In my system, there is no /dev/hd* devices, only sd*; does that mean I'm safe to upgrade?

/dev/sdb1 /media/music ext3 rw,defaults,umask=0000 0 0 ??

No, that just means you don't have to worry about that issue.

nessup, yum upgrades are never support
ed

ah, mkay. thanks

SAM_theman, why do you need the umask

I don't know
take it out?

there is an open ladp server package for both. my distro is x86_64 my processor is a 64bit one... Why do I need the i386 package of open ladp? Is it to integrate with the packages that do not have an x86_64 equivalent?

Hi all, I'm wondering if there's a reliable way to crash the fedora 7 kernel?
I have root access of course

SG now how do I let it auto mount?

check bugzilla for kernel bugs

i would do defaults 1 2
play with it man fstab

o ok
sudo mount /dev/sdb1?

SAM_theman, man fstab
go read and do some research

JohnMahowald, heh heh, are there any other simple ways to entirely freeze a system?

there is an open ladp server package for both. my distro is x86_64 my processor is a 64bit one... Why do I need the i386 package of open ladp? Is it to integrate with the packages that do not have an x86_64 equivalent?

but .. but

fork bomb... not exactly a kernel crash though

There are quite a few i386 packages that don't need to be there. Don't ask.
bThere are quite a few i386 packages that don't need to be there. Don't ask./b

:-)

Ok done
it says that fstab is a drive tool
j/k

JohnMahowald, is that something to do with spawning lots of processes?

yes

SG it works

hello

thanks man
your da best

/proc/sysrq-trigger

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fork_bomb

sorry but what is the format of the file stored in the pxe server?

74.5 GB Volume

cp /dev/zero /dev/mem --- would this do the trick?

and ghost format? a DD copy?
"dd"

It's whatever format you want to put there.

what the client need to find ?

SAM_theman, i am trying to teach you to think for yourself

worry may be the client can t understand if i store a copy of my hard drive only?
uworry may be the client can t understand if i store a copy of my hard drive only?/u

Now sg How Do i get my printer working??
j/k

I've never had the occasion to try. You might also try the lastest untested development kernels, but they can crash rather unreliably.

You only use PXE to get your system up enough to spit the image onto the hard drive.

SAM_theman, btw there is a solved howto for what you just did
http://fedorasolved.org/post-install-solutions/add-new-hdd/

yeah
how can i spit the image!!?
a software?
a script?

spit or split?

If you used dd to read it, then you use dd to write it.

JohnMahowald, I'm testing some crash recovery stuff, so it will have to be deterministic. I have three or so methods to try, so thanks

dd command need to be write on the client ?
that s what i can t understand
how i can use dd if the client doesn t have any OS

You PXE boot into one.

yes

Or use the rescue disc.

i use PXE boot on the client

dd is device dependent not logical dependent.. dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda1 will zero your drive.

dd is a a bad method i heard

bad method for whay?

software is good

My new laptop has an Intel 4965AGN wireless card, there is not a Linux driver available for it yet as it is too new, are there any "gotchas" whenit comes to using nPisswrapper?

dd is fine if the hard drive is the same.

it s the same yes
for install by pxe

Ndiswrapper is great... just be sure to use all lower case cahracters.
I foudn that out the hard way.

Wow, Bob and ndiwrapper, there really must be no drivers out there.

to 'clone' a system, I recommend the use of g4u over dd. However, cloning is not always the Right Thing

JohnMahowald, Yeah really freaking scary
JohnMahowald, My GFX card was not even supported, had to use vesa then tested a driver for ajax that will be coming in updates real soon now

later

JohnMahowald, the mfg changed their specs for the laptop so my retailer did not know that the wireless even changed

you mean scripting install is the best thing?

what would be best in terms of performance after installation?
to install from the live cd or to install with the rescue cd and doit from a dvd exported iso image with nfs?

but hey, 4Gigs of Ram, 160 gig 7200 RPM SATA drive, Core2Duo T7100 proc, this thing should build packages and ISOs like no ones business

Anyone here using yumex? It's installed a few things for me recently without their dependencies...

essentially the same thing after install

Couldn't figure out why a few things weren't working until I re-installed with yum

PrMoriarty, the Right Thing is the best thing. What the Right Thing is *depends* on what you're trying to do - your goal (not your method)

lol

Bob-Laptop, your computer specs?

chmac, that seems quite odd seeing that yumex is just a front end for yum

Bob-Laptop: I did find it *very* weird...

SAM_theboy, new laptop actually

But yum seems to work ok, it installs all the various deps
It's done it a few times
For example, I installed xine and toten-xine, but it didn't install libxine

humm i need to think more about my goal so lol

chmac, f7 or fc6?

kwame, in terms of performance, avoiding optical media (CD/DVD) as much as possible is better

Likewise, I installed gstreamer-plugins-ugly, etc, etc, but it missed all the deps
Bob-Laptop: F&
Bob-Laptop: F7 that is...

just want to boot a new comptuer and in some minutes he has the good configuration without any action from my part
bjust want to boot a new comptuer and in some minutes he has the good configuration without any action from my part/b
install + configuration i mean

booting over the network (PXE) and installing from NFS is fast.

chmac, just installed f7 on the new laptop, have not seen that personally

Bob-Laptop, i'm seeking someone to mockbuild a package on x86_64 - Can you try this if you have a little time ? : https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=241549

What is the location of the "gcc" program on your machine?

Bob-Laptop: Do you use yumex?

why is vmware askin me that?

chmac, Yeah

Otherwise, I love the new version, the new interface is a great improvement, I'm really pleased with it
I'll try removing it and re-installing I guess

scripting it (with kickstart) requires some time in pre-setup, but once it's done, each time you install it will be very fast

SAM_theman, because it needs to be compiled

I just installed gcc

kwizart, Southern_Gentlem , sorry , the thing crashed, then i've removed livna-config-display and kmod-nvidia, and xorg.conf, then i rebooted ,then i installed kmod-nvidia again, then i created xorg.conf since livna-config-display couldn't do it without, and rebooted again, and finally desktop-effects worked (not great, but worked, then i tried to disable them and i/o crashed, reset button, and i'm back )

kwizart, can you send that link in a PM to BobJensen
kwizart, I will check it out in the next couple hours for you

Bob-Laptop, thx

kwizart, Do you need that kind of service a lot?

http://rafb.net/p/qaA59R78.html

kwizart, Can I PM you?

no it work on my amd64x2 4200+ with 2go and i need someone to check it for the review (it fails on lower config)
yes

IC

Bob-Laptop: A new version is available from updates anyway, so I'll grab that and see how it goes...

humm ok i need to use anaconda right?

guzu, can you send a nvidia-bug-report.sh as root and send it (maybe you can launch it when the Xorg server seems to freeze if you have an ssh access)

PrMoriarty, what do you mean?

i don tknow what i mean

kwizart, system was not responding on eth nor kbd, only mouse was still moving,

so what is the battle plan.... i have right now my fedora installed

anaconda is the Fedora install program. You can "use" it interactively (manually) or you can script it (kickstart)

humm last question,
i have my fedora install with the good configuration and the good soft installed

kwizart, but now, with the newly created xorg.conf, is no longer crashing on glxinfo etc
so, it's better now

what i need to do know for the save it?

i do not plan to use desktop-effects anyway but i wanted most of what i can get from my video card

PrMoriarty, I'm sorry, I don't understand you

np lol
i m a little lost that s all
thank you for all your answer

do you mean you want to take a backup of everything (OS, software, data) on an existing computer so that you can replace it in the event of a problem (the hard disk fails and gets replaced, you break something in the OS so it doesn't boot) ?

yes

or do you mean you want to transfer everything to a new computer?

i want to backup
the exactly thing, data OS, partition, configuration etc

ok, in that case, cloning would probably be a better idea. Look at g4u (ghost for Unix) http://www.feyrer.de/g4u/

understood ^^
hope it work with lan install
working with pxe
(cause i want to install the backup on a lot of computer)

hallo, does anybody use proftpd? I have a problem configuring it, and in the proftpd channel sent me here
that's the error:
# proftpd -td5
Checking syntax of configuration file
- mod_tls/2.0.7: using OpenSSL 0.9.7a Feb 19 2003
- parsing '/etc/proftpd.conf' configuration
- no such group 'nogroup'
- Fatal: Group: Unknown group 'nogroup'. on line 41 of '/etc/proftpd.conf'
what can I do?

Use the ftp group.

utnalove, what i strongly suggest is to yum install vsftpd
utnalove, thats the ftp server that is actually shipped as the default one.

can i mount an smb share in f7?

mount -t cifs

frozty_sa, mount -t cifs
ivazquez, damn
ivazquez, heyyas

ivazquez are quickness

what's the difference between vsftpd and proftpd?

Hey.
One is supplied with Fedora, the other is not.

thanks ivazquez, che

hey

ok thanks, I'll do it.... and how to uninstall the proftpd I've already installed?

How do I append something to $PATH and save it? (For everyone, not just the current user)

How did you install it?

rpm

Edit /etc/profile* .
Then use rpm to remove it.

what's the command?

rpm -e package

is there some kind of site like www.getdeb.net 4 fedora ?

ok, cheers

i'm sharing my music from one pc across the network via samba, and when i upgraded that pc from fc6 fo f7 my laptop (also f7) could no longer access that pc. now i've got that sorted, but my brother (xp) can't access any more. any ideas?

Not a clue.

I've done, thanks all

nor do i...but i'd very easily guess permissions...

or firewall

do I add PATH=$PATH:/path/to/dir then, or setenv path or something along the lines of that?

firewall completely off...it gives problems...
the graphical firewall tool on f7 doesn't work right

Somewhere in there $PATH should get set. Let me check...

selinux?

in multiple places I guess

Known bug. Use iptables and service iptables save.

suppose I should add it to the pathmunge () { section

No.

huh? i'm not very good with iptables (don't know the syntax). only started to get to know it now..

#netfilter

dankie

Put it after "# Path manipulation" but before the if.

ok - should I use the pathmunge function or merely PATH=$PATH:/my/dir ?

The latter.

ok, cheers

Actually...
Either is fine, provided you pass "after" to pathmunge.

pathmunge typically ensure you don't do it twice. If you call PATH=$PATH:/my/dir twice then you have PATH=blah:blah:/my/dir:/my/dir. Imagine that called many times.

pathmunge /my/dir after

Ok

pathmunge only adds your path entry if it isn't already in the path.

ok, thanks for explaining
one more thing - do I need to reload something for it to take effect?

You have to relog.

ok, thanks

how can i debug the early stages of booting my fedora system
I am inspecting the initrd, but not quite sure what to look for.
at what point is "init" executed?

When the kernel is done loading.

so all hw messages flickering during boot, thats the kernel loading?

Yes.

then it switches root to my root filesystem and continues booting
but it also loads hardware during this process?

It loads compiled-in drivers.

ah so additional modules are loaded after it switches to the real root?

No, in the initrd.

all modules relevant to my system are in the initrd?

There's an init in the initrd as well as in the real root.

Guys I know I am about to sound stupid
But can I rip my dvd to my hardrive?

I see no init in the real root

Shrek 2?

Not all. Just enough to get to the real root.
/sbit/init
*sbin

wait
Just right click on it

the /sbin/init is executed after my root is mounted rw?

Yes.

ok thanks

It fires up /etc/rc.sysinit and gets the rest of the system going.

hm so first grub boots the kernel, the kernel mounts initrd in some ram, loads modules for disk access, then switches to new root mounted rw?

grub loads both the kernel and the initrd.
The kernel cracks open and runs the initrd.

brb

The initrd loads some modules then pivots the real root into place.

ah yes. the initrd is set in grub.conf
when real root is pivoted into place, thats a rw mount?

No, ro for fsck.

ok. ro is only for fsck reasons?

?

Then it gets remounted rw by rc.sysinit.

you're the cause and the reason

I recommend reading through rc.sysinit. You'll stop taking for granted how much SH*T Fedora goes through when it starts up.

grub sets up the ram disk and mounts initrd in it?

Ok its pissing me off

or the kernel?

this new nvidia driver is freezing my comp

That tiny bit of detail I'm not sure of.

This package is installed... Yet i get this error. :-?

version 100
its making my comp free

in my particular case, during boot "the system" tries to access way beyond the inital ramdisk
some terabyte too long or so

Which initrd are you using?

tftpboot/linux-install/F7/initrd.img
as set up by system-config-netboot

Hrm. Try tearing it down and setting it up again.

I'm currently looking at the files in this initrd
trying to differentiate it from a working tftboot initrd
they seem almost identical, but Im not sure where to look for differences

why not check with a diff which files do differ?

hi

It might be an issue with the headers.

ah

of the ramdisk

anyone know of a product that lets me record what I do on windows desktop to a video? I'm creating educational videos on how to use cygwin

.. which only has 48k blocks available or so
so i guess its after the ramdisk has been mounted

TechSmith makes something, I think.
Camtasia I think it's called.

the vmlinuz used is identical to the one that comes with the most recent F7 kernel
by shasum

ivazquez, tried mount -t cifs...get bitten at by mount, permission denied from server. and also tried to explicitly specify 'guest' user, no luck
any ideas?

#samba? *shrug*

the working initrd was set up from a CD-installed fedora system. the non-working initrd was set up from a yum --installroot installed F7 system
so i figure it's something the installer does after installation is complete

Bob-Laptop, yeah I didn't have gcc installed
Bob-Laptop, my mistake srry about that

This package is installed... Yet i get this error. How do I fix it?

rpm -q gpm

gpm-1.20.1-83.fc7
gpm-1.20.1-84.fc7
is what I got.

anybody knows about hardware mixing in fedora ?

what do you mean?

rpm -q --qf "%{name}-%{version}-%{release}.%{arch}\n" gpm

sound mixing
like doing 3 things at once

invoke yumex and remove: gpm-1.20.1-83.fc7
that will solve it.

play music from your cd and talking to your friend on a mic while watch a clip on youtube

Get a SB Live! and forget about it.

I have SB
audigy

Is it a Live!?
Ah.

not that all people have that luxury. i'm at the mercy of the sound daemons as i have a laptop

i took it out
just now and hook my mobo sound card

same

frozty_sa, sound demons you say?

how do I install openoffice on fedora? I tried yum install openoffice but it's not here

if the daemons don't wanna mix, i'm screwed

openoffice.org-\*

yum list \*office\*

so i can't even (easily) listen music while i'm playing warcraft or such

yum install openoffice.org-core.i386

as su - ?

hodges, any reason you didn't use the GUI package installer?

hodges

because I don't know how

yes. All installation and removal of apps needs to be done as root

anyone know what component i might file a f7 bug against, x seems to crash if you have rhythmbox playing and attempt to switch virtual terminals and then back again, totem and vlc both are ok and do not cause the crash, and the result is your x session disappearing, gdm restarting, and a stack trace in Xorg log that has nothing to do with rhythmbox

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