I have a webserver that uses an iframe as well as IndexOptions and lists filestxt I need to know if its possible

CheapWebHosting.co.nz

how come safari handels links to "?news" etc... like a retard? or am i linking to querystrings like a retard, if so, how should it be done?

hi to all
how can i set the content type for different formats of image?
ie"image/gif",image/jpeg" ets
*etc
by singe content type

becouse safari just appends the query string to already available querystrings when it should be replacing it... (links are from flash)..

can i use image/xyz for all image type?

Any idea why Firefox would be ignoring target="_blank"?

-- replacing current window instead

if you just want to double space?

tags?

`css margin @ typewriter

http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/box.html#propdef-margin

i'm not so sure why you linked me to margins?

because you want a bigger gap below your
and gaps around elements are margins
so, margin-bottom is the CSS property you want

-bunch of stuff

why not?

i rather just do a self-closing tag if that's ok, p /
i dont want to do*

why not?
that's like saying "I don't want to use nouns. I'll just make up some words and people will have to understand what I mean"
you're using a language where ... means 'paragraph'

well no, i don't have a paragraph

two ... means two paragraphs

i just want to get the same gap does

if that's not what you have then don't use that language
then you want to use a margin

it's the fundamental concept behind markup languages, one which people have been misuing since the web began

could anyone check my site, www.assa-electronic.ro and report if you see any big problems thanks

could anyone check my site, w

You need to supply a URI scheme (e.g http)

could anyone check my site, w

!v www.assa-electronic.ro

Valid - http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.assa-electronic.ro
Not valid - Errors: 2, http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http://www.assa-electronic.ro

how come if i link to a querystring in flash, safari only appends the querystring instead of replaceing the one already there?? i end up with ?link1?link2?foo etc.. really annoying.. any way to fix this?

can some one tell why the doublequote (") are not escaped in this line ? onMouseover="var menu1=new Array();menu1[0]='a href=\'#\' onClick=\'alert(\"This is a prototype for going back in time\"');\'

what's another way of making a transparent href other than ="#" ?

hello
i really need backup i m editing a wiki host page with crm software
but i need to use hypertext link on this page
as a webpage
do you know the syntax?
in fact i want to to use link for every chapter of my page

pargon?
*pardon?

a logical way of making a tableless form?

to mark up their forms

is enough

isn't definitely wrong

hello. i have to write a browser application. essentially, i want to provide a front-end to edit a database table with. what i wonder is: where do i put the form with which to change the values in the table? i'd like to mimic iTunes, but with html host i cannot guarantee the form to fly over the rest of the browser.
i've already tried putting the form below the table, but users haven't found that intuitive at all and weren't sure what would happen if they changed the form below the table.

Richardigel do you know what ASP.NET is ?

i'm afraid i may not use that.

that's too bad, it's made, designed and is a great tool to make such a web design quick and workable

hmm, I'd love to see this to be implementeable quickly. but i'd also appreciate to have a clue of what good software design would be in this case. do you know a database host application that runs in a browser and solves this nicely?

this doesn
't exist

aight, I'll find something thanks anyway!

first you have 2 types of datadriven web application, classic ones, with form posting and browser navigation, and the other AJAX powered, the later is the complexier, but it's the closest to a normal application, and i think that is what ASP.NET can provide easily
anyway it's a big, very big topic to discuss and i think you should speak with people in ##csharp for infos about ASP.NET and ##php for infos about PHP, depending on which language you plan to use on the server hosting side
and i hope you have some knowledge about database and general programming caus you'll need them, alot

i'm using squeak seaside which allows for relatively smooth programming. i think I'll do it the classical way, because i've never programmed any ajax

never heard of squeak

StaZ|Work:it's a small little framework that centers around objects and their states. here's a code example that should give a clue on what the philosophy is. it implements a counter:
html
html heading: count.
html anchor
callback: [ self increase ];
with: '++'.
html space.
html anchor
callback: [ self decrease ];
with: '--'
where decrease is implemented as i:=i-1 and increase likewise.

don't ever paste code in IRC
use a pastebin like www.rafb.net

k, look: http://rafb.net/p/uJZDh062.html

looks wierd, anyway i'm not really interested (no offense)

is there a way to ensure that a checkbox always submits a value instead of just not being sent if it is unchecked?

that's not what a checkbox does

GarethAdams, clearly.. thats what I said. my question was if its possible to alter that behaviour.

no, it's not. that's part of the HTML specification
what you can do is write your form handler to deal with it. after all, you know what checkboxes are on the page

hello, im looking for an html code that has 4 colums like "- - - - " on top and under that there will be some news etc
any idea ?

GarethAdams, I didn't know what checkboxes were on the form, unfortunately its a very dynamic form, but i managed to sort it out.

I'm having some problems with embed and object
I found a way to use object that works both on firefox and ie6, but it doesn't work on ie7

/object

should I change/add something?

hi all !
does anyone know a way to use a kind of "margin-left" but for table please ?

threw why are you using tables?

to output formatted lines of data
i just would like to put a left margin to those data to have a better output

have you tried with table { margin-left: 10px; } ?

what a great idea thank you

How many are really required? I can understand one for the character encoding, but how many others are really needed?

none

I'm not so familiar but usually I've the one for the author, description and keywords too

description is good if you don't want google just pulling off the text under your h1
keywords is good if you want to include mispelled words

And author paotzu?

keyword is also used by search engines afaik

like say your site were about haemmerhoids or something
er haemmor... or however it is spelled
keyword not used by google except to penalize

uhm?

yahoo still uses it to some extent as does ask, msn, and other search engines that you won't get traffic from
google doesn't value whatever you put into keywords

What does google value then?

paotzu i believe it's hemoroids

it looks at the body copy and figures out the weights and relevancy of your actual keywords

paotzu are you sure?

hello

yes I am very sure, meta keyword is not a search engine tool

is there a way i can have some code only if browser is IE?

]condcom @ symtab

IE Conditional Comments: http://haslayout.net/condcom.shtml

so, what is their purpose?

you should still use them, but don't spend hours on it

for example my design works perfectly in firefox with css only, but to align it center i have to use a table

I always thinked that the keyworks are a list of word that represent the content of the page

the best use of them now is to list mispellings of keywords you spelled correctly in your body copy

Taggnostr your page's content should be relevant to keywords, that's also calculated by the search bots

See what _ZofBot3 said? Go there to learn of conditional comments.

many sites use no keywords, look at alistapart

Taggnostr be sure to gives relevant alt="" to your images and title="" to your links, and have a nice structured page with for paragraphs and not only divs everywhere... bots now evaluates the "pertinence" of a page

and its not as if their serps fall apart because of it

so I wasted time doing list of keywords for every page?

Taggnostr you did :P

yes, don't spend too much time on it
use a "keyword analyzer" on your copy and put in mispellings of the top 5 or so

yeah works
thanks
another thing

http://courses.ncsu.edu/csc234/lec/651/x_index.html The new layout plan for the course website I'm working on behind the scenes. Think the Layout Gala look works better?

any ideas if i can use css only to center content in IE
?

and you also said that the description is used by google under the link of the result

probably

conditional comment a CSS page.

yes

heh i remember the first time i did html... like... 8 years ago, i went on google and wrote "akljehpg" so i got no result, then i got into my page and wrote that in the meta keywords, then saved, and i was so pissed off that after that google didn't list my page

but only the first 12 words or so

* everybody been a n00b at sometime * :P

I see that google use the link of my menu under the link :|
even if I've a description and an h1 too, after the menu

maybe your description was inaccurate

maybe the description is too short?

Or something like like.

write a 12 - 13 word human readable description

hmm
thanks

google usually pick up relevant snippets of the page where the kwyword appear to build the description you see in the results

actually I've something like "index page of the site"

yes, that is likely why google ignored it

Taggnostr site map is a more usual name :P
site map is very important for indexing

I'll do better description than

yea make an XML host site map

and I'll remove some keywords too
xml?

look up xml google sitemap
very effective for large sites
people tend to treat meta tags as if they were more important than the page itself... at least, people who learned everything they know about websites in 1997

the site map should index the pages or the contents too?

this looks like an easy site http://www.xml-sitemaps.com/
once you see what they look like you should have no problem generating them yourself later

I've another question
how can the searching engines find all the page of your site, even if they aren't linked?

Taggnostr they must be linked from somewhere
the bots are crawlers that runs from a site to another using the urls, if a page has no page at all on the internet to link ot it, there's no way a crawler will fall on it

I see google indexing single page that I've update just for test

* shrugs *

and if I do link:mysite.com/mypage.html I should find the page that link it?

hm, try it and see :P
command list the links on the page no ?

it should return the pages that link the given page

oh well guess i miss this part in my google-fu

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=link%3Awww.webdevout.net&btnG=Google+Search look at this for example

hm, nice tool i admit

btw, I can't find my page

Hello, I have a problem with a textarea, every time that I load the page the textarea (that it is suppose that doesn't have any text) the first row start with empty spaces, How can I fix it?

textarea name="txtArea_Notes" id="txtArea_Notes" cols="80" ROWS="5"

textarea name="txtArea_Notes" id="txtArea_Notes" cols="80" ROWS="5"/textarea
textera requires a closing tag

Well, yes, I have it closed

do you have anything in between textarea/textare

test url please

Hey, I have an XML document... how would I go about writing something to select a random item and display it?

I can't it is a VPN connection of an internal site

Lapper javascript, google for "javascript random" and get a number and select the n'th child of some xpath
edugonch www.rafb.net/paste
can i has code pliiizzzeee, kthxbai

paotzu, you are right, I had a break line between the open and close tags, that was the problem, THANKS

edugonch that's what i wanted to check in the code since you didn't seem to understand what we meant

Yes, sorry

hello
im trying to show a site to people, but for them it shows up differently than it does for me, what could be wrong? the site is located on http://goost.awardspace.com/ and http://thomas.onedot.nl/

I really have no idea what that means. I'm JS illiterate. :P

I didn't imagine that a break line will make that problem

Yeah, it's called differences in browser rendering. It happens. You have to code around it.

no i found out now

Although... that has no styling....

wrong base url

Lapper hm, what kind of answer were you expecting

Something involving lolcats.

w00t lolcats

But seriously, I'm not entirely sure.

http://icanhascheezburger.com/

point to the current dir in html?

http://i0005.photobucket.com/albums/0005/icanhascheezburger/2007/6/12/1/128261114448593750lolcatalignr.jpg

im trying to use mod rewrite with it

Taggnostr i actually have it as my home page

Woot, XMLolcat.

kidding, but i've got it in my linklist of my iGoogle :P

iGoogle is pretty great...
But they're really just remarketing it.

I have the full HTML source for a page including CSS styling in a php or JS variable. I would like to show this page to the user within another page, preferably inside an IFRAME or the like. Any ideas how to get around this?

anyone help me out , I'm getting errors displaying my page in IE , the box containing my video player and video options is messing up, any help would be appreciated thanks. URL http://blog.drummingsystem.com/FDL/play-the-drums.html

looks like a width problem

tried changing widths, I think it's a box problem how IE renders the borders

you see IE and FF treats borders and padding/marign differently, they include or exclude it of the "width" propteyr
can you reduce the width enough to have it display good in IE ? (just answer don't mind firefox for now)

yes, refresh

great, now you can use this hack :
#myid { width: 100px; /* for IE */ } #myid[id] { width: 110px; /* for compliant browsers */ }
the [id] is a child selector that says "match elements with the attribute "id" defined" but IE doesn't understand it so it ignores it
that's the cleanest hack i know, i use it very often

I spent like 2 days trying to figure this out lol
lets take a gander and see if this fixes it.

another thing i've noticed, the box "sheet music download" have its links disappear if the 2 boxes above takes more space, so it means your design can only work with a given font size, now go in firefox and this ctrl and "+"
* hit ctrl and "+"
IE7 zooming tool won't give trouble with that though, that's a good point for IE7 :P

ouch

and there are tools that work as a tool bar that have this font-resizing feature... well it's just a note, on the side

so for the hack, to display the options correctly, im lost, never used any hacks before to be honest

what you could do about it is set that box, that is by the image, the css overflow:auto so if the bottom part disappear, a scrollbar will appear to access it
IE reads the first, and ignore the second, FF reads the first, then read the second, and the second override the first so ff keeps the second only and ignore the first
there are ton of IE hacks, google for a bit and you'll find

can you refresh taht page again?
and let me know what im doing wrong please?

you've put 232px, it's 222px
and possibly 218 for IE
or maybe 216 you can tweak it

yea, 218 is displaying funny if I go up to 220, messes up
refresh if you have a moment

well play with it, you've got the hack correctly
ie could use 2 more

but it's still not working, because as you can see there is still 2px spacing but if I up the 2px it messes up
even if i up 1 px messes up
219 is ma
max*
for the IE hack

on the line with the [ID] it's for Firefox
the width defined in the normal one is for IE

yea, and it's set to 219px atm, and looks like it could still go 2px more.. but if I adjust any more from 219 to 220 it messes up
for the IE normal id..

heh... then i don't really know, try to ensure you've got no margin on the image and the box

= /

is there any way to create a slider in plain html?

with a sh*t load of javascript, yes
i've got a friend that made a 3d rendering engine in javascript :P

i am trying to avoid yet another language, i'm already using plain python for cgi

javascript isn't plain html :P

right ZombieLoffe

there's marquee... but it isn't proper html and not standards supported
and it looks bloody awful
don't use it.

a slider or something like a slider would do, like a box with a number and arrows to chage that number, i dont know how that is called

Oh. Then no.

it's a slider, that's the javax.swing name at least
.NET calls it a TrackBar

a slider is just a control you can move up and down to increase or decrease a number

I thought you meant something that slides across the page.

yeah we understand that, but without javascript it's stricly impossib;e
an easy way with javascript would be a + and - button that increases a counter
and put the value in an input type="hidden"

how is that actually called in java script? it must have a name

no it's not javascript control

to control the value

and some javscript code
bascially that could look like the .NET NumericUpDown or the Java's Spinner
indeed that is not a good idea as it requires javascript to work, so it won't work on accessible browser, or javascvript disabled browsers

i'm surprised html doesnt define something that simple
i guess i'll just stick to my original idea of a little text box and a default value....
that really sucks btw

with a lsit of all numbers available, that is done a lot for date inputs, day list, month list, year list

nachox HTML has not been initially made for user interactivity
:P

yeah, i know but it's been a few revisions since then

HyperText Markup Language, the name says it, markup language, that implies only displaying information
nachox not enough, but to think of it, if you look at ajax controls you might find one that does it, i know ajax developpers been making javascript based control for soem time
now finding a free one might be a problem though

that's what i was googling for, most are paid

but heh if you're site is too become the new YouTube, you might spend 40$ for that, if you're to make milliards with it
:P

nah, just a homework

that is a nice opporunity to learn javascript :P
O realy??

maybe it is, i was really really trying to avoid using anything other than standard html since that has to go embeded into some python code that generates the web page

inline Here you can see that while I have this parameter set in CSS, the div boxes I am trying to apply it to are still using block layout. http://passport.ebtpassport.com/test.html

found a javascript one, i think i might embed this one in the python script :P

Ah well adding a border to it showed me that the content is not even in the box somehow.

Hello, I have a webserver that uses an iframe, as well as IndexOptions, and lists files.txt. I need to know if it's possible to format a txt document so that when someone clicks on it, it's not black text on a black background, any solutions?

Ask them to reconfigure their browser /or/ convert the txt to HTML and provide a stylesheet for it.
Why is it black text on black background anyhow?

Hander?
Handler?
errr meant #apache
sorry

normally text files are displayed as black on white background

yeah but
i can use Handler
to point all txt file requests to a cgi script for parsing

true
parsing into what?

white text

white text in what format?

open(A, $ENV{'QUERY_STRING'});

at the beginning

then send it back to their browser

Rather than relying on browsers to handle your errors (i.e. treat a text file as HTML) why not make it an actual HTML document with a stylesheet?

huh
my problem is black on black text
no errors are occuring

Yes an error is occurring. What content type are you serving your text file as?

text/plain

doesn't working. Do you have any idea?

Exactly. But because of font, browsers will assume your clueless and error-correct treating your file as if it were HTML.

handler

I'm just saying what you should do is serve an actual HTML file.

;/
for every directory?
for all txt files?

for every text file you're adding font to yes

i have thousands of txt files

so?

what would the httpd.conf lines be

works. Does it just add a string at the beginning and end or something?

is that all it can handle?

dont know tbh
someone else told me to do that

What does your directive look like at the moment?

i dont have any handler directives atm
i have to read up on it yet

oh
If you're passing each txt to a cgi
the cgi script can add full HTML document information to the beginning (doctype, html, title, head) and the end (/body/html)

well
someone just told me about mod_txt

How you process the middle is up to you really.

heh
checking that out

If you want to keep things simple put the plain text in pre
you can embed styling information in a style or link element in the head.
and make sure the end content-type is text/html

guys, any idea what part of it prevents it from passing submits parameters correctly? http://rafb.net/p/4ya15E44.html

http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/intro/sgmltut.html#h-3.2.2
you can't have a space between an attribute and its value
(also, it's a good idea to quote attribute values)

element

is there a way to make a URL look like a submit button?

webben_, arent they inside the form element as they are now?

the inputs with id's lalalla and spin are not.
the single submit input is
your question seemed a bit ambiguous as to which of the two you meant

is what i mean by inside

in HTML

yes, and form is opened in like the 3rd line

it should be input
not in your pastebin

fourth line in fact

in your pastebin the first input is on line 30, and the form is opened on line 35
oh i see
yeah you can't have a form element outside body
bodyformfieldset[ or div or p or something]!-- your fields go here --/form/body
I suggest you try validating your markup before asking your question next time.
validator.w3.org
having a look through the HTML documentation I linked to earlier would help too

i'll do that, i just hoped for a simple answer, i guess i'll just have to sweat my way through

HTML is simple, but not so simple you can make it up
lots of resources for beginners at http://www.benjaminhawkeslewis.com/www/web-design/getting-started if you need them

yeah, i'm just pissed this is not working

hi, kinda newish to HMTL/javascript/etc, is there any way to make an RGB selector that updates on button press?

My blog's template contains Adsense ads. For a few of my high traffic posts, the ads are completely irrelevent. I would like to add some code to those individual posts that would hide/collapse the ads on that post only.
So that I can replace those ads with another type.
Could I perhaps enclose the ads in a div tag and use some script to the contents of the tag?

width: 0; height: 0; overflow: hidden;

I would not be able to change the individual div code, as it would effect of my blog posts.

hrmmm?

anyone know of some source for updating elements on a page? (image changing, textbox appearing/disappearing, buttons going active/inactive)

##javascript

My blog's template contains Adsense ads. For a few of my high traffic posts, the ads are completely irrelevent. I would like to add some code to those individual posts that would hide/collapse the ads on that post only. So that I can replace those ads with more relevent ones.
Ahh sorry

t00na wanted me to tell you that Recursion is my favorite activity.

Can someone please ban that stupid bot?

is deprecated, what's used in its place?

;google dorward centre @ artagnon

http://dorward.me.uk/www/centre/
a href="http://dorward.me.uk/www/centre/"http://dorward.me.uk/www/centre//a

What is this character called? "#"

I use CSS. I want a HTML way to do it

Why are you laughing, artagnon?
What do you wanna do?!???!?!?!?!?!

I want to center text without creating ANY cascading style sheets
Thanks, the page was useful, nevertheless

HTML is for meaning
nothing means 'centered'
use CSS
you can always use a style attribute
div style="width: 400px; margin: 0 auto;"
hash or pound
check wikipedia
or sharp, even

Thanks again, I'll follow your advice

bah, waster of time

absolute; bottom: 0; doesn't seem to be so absolute at all, hehe http://jan.sin.khk.be/toff/layout/new/

Yeah, but I couldn't check Wikipedia as searching for # returned nothing.

you could've searched for keyboard

excuse me, someone could speak chinese?

I could use a translator...

I couldn't find a channel which builded by chinese,so...
ok,where I could find a good course about HTML?

glad you asked 1min
mandarin?
oh right written is the same :p

I could read english

hang on...

I need HTML Tutorial

I'm getting some information for you

thanks

hrmmm, I was rather expecting wikipedia to have some good links, but there's very little here http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/CSS
and the chinese translations of the specs seem to be missing
ohwell, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cascading_Style_Sheets
should have decent information and links at the end
and more: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/HTML_Programming http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/CSS_Programming

The pages loaded slowly...
are you American?

yeah they're big and their servers suck, but they have good information and links
I was born and raised in Florida, north america

Are you working? or still a student?
It's a pity that my firefox show 'connect overtime'.
What do you think of this, http://www.w3schools.com/html/default.asp

it's not horrible, but not that great, either
just keep in mind that w3schools.com is not affiliated with the W3C (w3.org)
yourhtmlsource.com is bette
better*

Are you working? or still a student?

I have a part-time job
if I get my act together maybe I can play music for a living
you?

hoho
I a graduated middle school student

can there be any iframe within iframe?

yes, but is rather insane, Doable and Practical aren't mutually inclusive

there can be an iframe within a _document_ that's within an iframe

i just want to include some html written from users into a page, if i put it into an iframe, will it be safe enough?

tag to ruin everything?

]include @ DavidHKMrPowers

include: http://allmyfaqs.net/faq.pl?Include_one_file_in_another

thanks
]include @ DavidHKMrPowers

include: http://allmyfaqs.net/faq.pl?Include_one_file_in_another

heh

HEH!

can anybody tell me how to enable or disable a link in anchor tag ......

why?

is there any attribute that can enable me .....
I want to do this depending on some specific state dynamically ...

why?

there is no specific reason ....

then there's no specific answer

but I want this in my HTML page if some state appears then I want to enable that link otherwise I don't want to enable link ...

state determined by what?

by my mouse clicks .....

by prior state change

Programs Accessories where you belong!

is there a way to make a link that takes you to a certain line number in an html document?

... span id="shibbywah"/span47: boink boink fong!

li id="shibbyway"
where li is the 47th li of an ol :p
or you've used the start attribute, etc. :p

reisio, how are you

good, you?

same

nice

that don't work

sure it does

how shibbywah should look like?

div id="foo"

ah, is there a way to link without using div id="foo"?
thats what i were asking

or b id="foo", etc.

yes but all these must be inside the document

where else would they go?

i want to cite certain line from a document on a website
the article is big
see http://film.guardian.co.uk/Feature_Story/feature_story/0,4120,140252,00.html
i want to make a direct link to the line beginning with --- As he's raised the subject, I ask whether
so that functionality don't exist? link to line numbers

p id="foo"

technically, the text is in a content-flow, not a line by line per se, since there isn't one when parsing, just an element content flow, and depending on screen resolutions, font sizes, viewports sizes and dimensions and screen dots rendering unnits, the content flow, may render line 3 most often different on all

it's the first line of a paragraph, so he's in luck

reisio, thanks
CommandPrompt, so no other way to link to text, discarding line number thing?

as reisio explained up there

yes there are other ways, but they're stupid
wtf just do it :p

you use an id to the 'spot' and for the link, you use href="#spot" to jump to 'spot'

hehe my head big
yes, but that will involve me editing the document..i mean others documents .. like your page for instance

soooooooooo

so the people who develop html should devise a way to make citing text in pages more efficient, but the question is, does they add new things to html?

I think they did (it's called xpointer) but few browsers implemented it

really? and how it appears for the browsers which didn't support it? webben

I don't know. Never used it or seen it used.
linking to line numbers wouldn;'t make much sense tho
you could link to something like "7th paragraph"
but HTML doesn't have "lines"
that's just a presentational quirk

yes, cmdprompt explained that

ah okay

Source seems to do absolutely nothing. I have tripple-checked the "programs", and it's set to open in Notepad. Why doesn't it? It used to.

It's still very alpha, but if you're often quoting stuff precisely you might find http://www.benjaminhawkeslewis.com/www/hypertextuality/ useful
(it's good for linking to id, without having to hunt around in source and put together a URL manually)
or, i say it's good for that, at least that's what it's meant to do

Do you write Firefox extensions in C or JavaScript?

and it's usable enough for my purposes
JavaScript + XUL, with possible use of C++ or Java for adding additional functionality
(XUL == a user interface markup language)

Java?!
Isn't the entire Firefox written in JavaScript (the GUI etc.)?

thanks webben but thats not what i want
towerniece, do you actually think firefox is written in javascript only?

So now webben isn't marriage material for you, alnokta, huh?! He spent many hours putting on make-up and finding the perfect dress!
Everything but the rendering engine thing, yeah.
It's running on some sort of semi-VM thing.

watch your tongue please

there's cite
]html cite

http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/text.html#edef-CITE

there's also blockquote, em, kbd, tt, var
and a few others for accentuating

CommandPrompt, thanks but all these unfortunately cannot do what i mean..

well
what do you need?
..
I think I see

how come you need such a precise link in this case?

webben, see here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_Cube .. there is a line saying "he converted to Islam[4]" click the '4' link..
it will get you to http://film.guardian.co.uk/Feature_Story/feature_story/0,4120,140252,00.html
webben, the citation would be "As he's raised the subject, I ask whether - having converted in the early 90s - he's still Muslim"...
webben, i want a to add a link to this _paragraph_ .. thats all

oh well, i can see it would be nice, but in print you'd be lucky to get a page reference to the article never mind a line

i know it is fine to give the whole thing, but it would be awesome to make it easy for anyone to check the sources
especially if it is longer than that

yep ... this is why authoring tools should insert id's
you could quote the text ... that way people could just do a find

make an id for every single sentence

or say something like "about halfway down"

yes, i block quote
so you think that ids for every sentence is good enough..or you think there might be another solution they could implement in html? webben

I think every paragraph would be a better idea
well, a more practical idea anyhow
that's what WRI are suggesting I think

what is WRI?

http://webrepair.org/

ah, any results yet

they are still drafting

hi to all
can anyone help me pls ?
how do I create a custom css from a file input ?
pls help me
thanks

anyone here who knows file uploading
i have input type=file ; where is the filename and the content, in php
is the only question

hello
can anyone tell me how a iframe interact with html that include that ifrema ?
iframe ?
pls ?

webben, back from work that fast? or you are at work?

at work

hi... i'm embarrased to ask, but what's the Portable and Righteous way of colorizing a table cell's text?
td color="red"WARNING/td
and the w3c pages say that FONT and BASEFONT are deprecated tags, thus non-portable
and definitely not righteous!

CSS
and in that instance, probably with the markup tdstrong class="warning"Warning/strong/td
make sure you're using that table for data not layout though
.warning {background:white;color:red}

hmm, CSS sounds too heavy for a simple readme.html

er ... no
one of the essential design principles of the web was to separate content and presentation to allow for interoperability across devices (and the people using them)
this is especially important when creating useful content like readme file
since people actually need access to that information
presentational HTML should /always/ be avoided

good point
separation of concerns
unfortunately, in projects small enough, applying the principle of separation of concerns leads to a lot of boilerplate (think java), so one has to aply some common sense

you're confusing the coding principle of separating concerns with the usability principle of separating content and presentation]
CSS caters to both

What elements is a form tag legitimately allowed to enclose?

look at the DTD for your doctype

XHTML 1.0 strict

http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/dtds.html#a_dtd_XHTML-1.0-Strict

is ok

Thank you

Sadly - I don't have three hours to go through all that right now
I will bookmark it - but does anyone know off the top of their head?

that is valid but see http://www-03.ibm.com/able/guidelines/web/webforms.html in order to make sure the form usable

Thanks

(tables can pose accessibility problems)

Yes. I normally avoid them, but needs must

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